Keon stats for Tampa

[Blackbeard]

6 minutes ago, JMM said:

Frankly, if Gabe is ready, I hope he is inactive. Just for the fact that he has displayed immaturity,  selfishness, and loafing. That ALONE should put him on the bench. 

What?  Never recall Davis as immature or selfish?  Or lazy by that?

 

Where are you getting that from?

[Taro Nimbus]

I think the bills will be committed to getting James Cook a lot  of touches.    So Keon may have a stat line like 4 catches 55 yards with maybe a TD.  

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:

Big game…a gotta have it game for the young man.

 

What does Keon do for this one?

 

I’ll go to bat for him one more time and say 9 grabs, 97 yards and 2 TD’s.

 

Keon…were lookin’ right at you bud.  Show up

 

Love the optimism but I don't that is very realistic the way we use him.  

 

A more realistic optimistic stat line might be more like 5 rec, 77 yards, and a TD.  

 

My expectation - 3 rec, 48 yards, 0 TDs.  

 

I think this is going to be a big Cook game.  Down Palmer and Kincaid, I have a hard time seeing Brady looking to dial up the passing game unfortunately.  A guy I do like streaming this week in DFS is Shakir though.  I think Shakir ends up with like 7-8 catches, 80-100 yards and a TD.  

[Cray51]

5 catches

83 yards

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

I won’t have a number until I know whether or not he is benched for the 1st quarter for being late to meetings.

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

I have never seen this fanbase turn on a player like this. Ever. This level of vitriol is usually reserved in Buffalo for tall defensemen who don't like to hit. 

 

eh we certainly have before.  in this case it's less about Coleman himself, and more about the abject failure of Beane on the WR front, and Keon being the poor moron token WR that Beane clearly had to take but did it through gritted teeth because there were so many oft injured tweener DL that he could have taken instead

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Love the optimism but I don't that is very realistic the way we use him.  

 

A more realistic optimistic stat line might be more like 5 rec, 77 yards, and a TD.  

 

My expectation - 3 rec, 48 yards, 0 TDs.  

 

I think this is going to be a big Cook game.  Down Palmer and Kincaid, I have a hard time seeing Brady looking to dial up the passing game unfortunately.  A guy I do like streaming this week in DFS is Shakir though.  I think Shakir ends up with like 7-8 catches, 80-100 yards and a TD.  

 

3 for 48 implies 16 yards a catch, an implication i cannot realistically broker

[BringBackFergy]

34 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Shhhhhhh we have to go from the narrative that Keon is slow and can't separate because there's no way our GOAT QB can have an off day. We need a scape goat and the majority have chosen to make Keon just that. 

So true!!

Josh can NEVER be blamed. Ever. 

[RiotAct]

lulz

[BuffaloButt]

This is a sad sad post!!

[DapperCam]

1 hour ago, 34-78-83 said:

From Joe Marino after reviewing the film of the passing game:

 

"Unfortunately, the two uncatchable passes that I charted in this game were both on deep balls to Coleman on reps that Coleman actually had separation. On the first instance, Coleman had his man stacked vertically with inside leverage, but Allen threw the ball out of bounds to Coleman’s outside shoulder. The other was severely underthrown, and the defensive back swatted it away while Coleman had to turn around for it despite having vertical leverage."

 

This was in line with what we saw live. But then again, Keon is the whipping boy of TBD, so carry on with making him seem ridiculously useless, instead of what he is, a struggling and so far under-performing young player that gets utilized oddly.

 

The ball that was out of bounds was only slightly out of bounds and possibly catchable.

 

More importantly on that rep Coleman didn’t track the ball, stopped running (causing the DB to run into him) and then started to run again when he found the ball in the air but couldn’t catch up to it.

 

With Mike Evans or a similar good WR1 that is probably a completion or near-completion with the receiver not getting 2 feet in bounds. It’s a perfect example of how Coleman doesn’t look like a natural WR at all.

 

And the other play was a slight underthrow, which Coleman failed to make the contested catch. And even after that the ball popped up and Coleman had 2 hands on it and dropped it.

 

[dgrochester55]

2 receptions, 30 yards, and 4 or 5 times getting the worse end of a contested catch

[Alphadawg7]

44 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

eh we certainly have before.  in this case it's less about Coleman himself, and more about the abject failure of Beane on the WR front, and Keon being the poor moron token WR that Beane clearly had to take but did it through gritted teeth because there were so many oft injured tweener DL that he could have taken instead

 

3 for 48 implies 16 yards a catch, an implication i cannot realistically broker

 

I mean his career average is almost 15 ypc, so not sure why its not that realistic.  And TB isn't a great Secondary, so he can easily get a 20+ yard catch in this game.  With both Kincaid and Palmer out, I think he gets a little more deeper looks than some of the short stuff they throw him on check downs this game.

Edited 2 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[dorquemada]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I mean his career average is almost 15 ypc, so not sure why its not that realistic.  And TB isn't a great Secondary, so he can easily get a 20+ yard catch in this game.  With both Kincaid and Palmer out, I think he gets a little more deeper looks than some of the short stuff they throw him on check downs this game.

 

i like your moxie kid, now somebody kidnap brady and put alphadawg in at OC

[Kirby Jackson]

I bought in on Keon having a big game last week. I’m not doing it again. I just hope he’s more efficient. If they throw him the ball 6 times I hope it results in 4+ catches.

[Bigvinny]

Inactive 

 

Gabe takes his place and goes off because Allen trusts him.

 

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

it's repulsive because what else follows:

 

Samuel: 12 snaps, 2 targets, 1 catch, 27 yards*

Moore: 6 snaps, 1 target, 1 catch, 8 yards

Shavers: 4 snaps, 2 targets, 1 catch, 19 yards

 

12 snaps: 4 passing plays, 8 runs

Yeah shavers out snapping those guys seems wrong along with keon.  I love the running game but I don’t need the bills to lead the league in rush play percentage.  

[JohnNord]

3 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:

Big game…a gotta have it game for the young man.

 

What does Keon do for this one?

 

I’ll go to bat for him one more time and say 9 grabs, 97 yards and 2 TD’s.

 

Keon…were lookin’ right at you bud.  Show up

7 targets 2 catches 21 yards

 

i think Gabe gets the call up and out performs him

[JMM]

1 hour ago, Blackbeard said:

What?  Never recall Davis as immature or selfish?  Or lazy by that?

 

Where are you getting that from?

Um...how about from his...COACH.  He has been disciplined at least once this season,  and he basically said he was not satisfied with his effort after last week's game. All 22 shows SEVERAL plays where he is basically loafing. Those are all signs of emotional immaturity and obviously selfish when you are part of a team. 

[Blackbeard]

2 minutes ago, JMM said:

Um...how about from his...COACH.  He has been disciplined at least once this season,  and he basically said he was not satisfied with his effort after last week's game. All 22 shows SEVERAL plays where he is basically loafing. Those are all signs of emotional immaturity and obviously selfish when you are part of a team. 

You’re confused my friend. 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, 34-78-83 said:

From Joe Marino after reviewing the film of the passing game:

 

"Unfortunately, the two uncatchable passes that I charted in this game were both on deep balls to Coleman on reps that Coleman actually had separation. On the first instance, Coleman had his man stacked vertically with inside leverage, but Allen threw the ball out of bounds to Coleman’s outside shoulder. The other was severely underthrown, and the defensive back swatted it away while Coleman had to turn around for it despite having vertical leverage."

 

The 2nd one that I bolded, Coleman did nothing to get open there. He just ran behind the flat defender in basic tampa 2 and up the sideline. He actually jogged the entire route until he realized the ball was coming his way which allowed the flat defender to easily keep pace with him and eventually undercut the pass.