Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field

[boyst]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

He could have stayed at the spot and picked Worthy, or selected Ladd with that first pick in round 2.  But he took the worst of the three.  Great job Beane.

I think there were several people that wanted to double dip early on wide receiver. It was absolutely no reason not to. 

I don't know that worthy would have been the best fit for our offense, in McConkey is a slot guy would have taken reps from Shakir. But having both of those two on this team over Coleman would be a vat improvement 

 

I was thinking more like getting Troy Franklin later, and even ad Mitchell at some point since he fell so far

[Billz4ever]

3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I don’t think they use Coleman effectively.  They should put him in motion, run slants and different stuff other than sideline back shoulder all the time.  But he has to also grow up.  He sounds very immature.

 

They do and this is the effort they get from him, but to your point, I think they do use him wrong. He's not a boundary receiver. He's a big slot guy and nobody is convincing me otherwise.

 

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

Did you red the text? It was exactly what you would want from your franchise QB after the decision was made.  There is nothing in that CBS story that indicated Allen helped make that pick.  The Bills scoring operation vetted Coleman and Allen probably said something along the lines of "yea, he looks good. go for it".  Once the decision as made to draft Coleman, which had to be Beans, Allen was all in.  Do you think things would have played out that day any differently if the Bills had taken McConkey?

 

 

 

 

The Allen thing is so overblown. If he helped make the pick it's because Beane really wanted to pick Coleman. If he didn't want to and didn't like him and did because Josh liked him then he needed to be the adult in the room.

[Buffalo Boy]

9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

I have 2 words to speak for you...

 

Mecole Hardman.  😂😂

 

All I can do is SMH and laugh at this point.

Imagine being Josh and seeing that news.

[finn]

20 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Mcconkey was right there at our pick.

It's sort of sickening, isn't it? Like KC jumping over us to take McDuffie, leaving Beane to take Elam, or eagerly taking Creed Humphrey when Beane went with Boogie Basham since he had a 32-year old center, or Detroit jumping on Sam LaPorta after Beane chose the fragile Kincaid, and so on.

 

Yes, playing hindsight is unfair, but Beane is accountable for his increasing number of mistakes. I give him credit for Bosa and Hoecht, but it looks like his delusions about the wide receiver position have doomed the season before it hits the halfway point. 

[SC STATE NUPE]

I’ve been a Coleman supporter through and through. But if this stuff is true, they need to sit his a__ completely! It’s one thing to be a distraction and produce. It’s another when you’re not doing anything, and have the audacity to half-a__ it as well! But let’s be real, McConkey or Worthy wouldn’t have produced in this offense. Worthy would’ve been used in jet screens only, while McConkey would’ve looked worse than Samuel. No receiver in the league that’s good wants to play in Brady’s scheme, or lack there of!

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

 

They do and this is the effort they get from him, but to your point, I think they do use him wrong. He's not a boundary receiver. He's a big slot guy and nobody is convincing me otherwise.

 

 

Multiple wide receivers open quick 

[CincyBillsFan]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I understand everything you're saying but ultimate company man's don't win Super bowls 

 

If Josh Allen is the greatest ever like we fought he needs to be able to hold people accountable 

 

These are not high school players these are professional athletes in a league that is a privilege not a right 

 

 He has earned the right to hold people accountable.. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady would lay into future Hall of famers they had no problem 

 

Josh needs to learn it's okay to do that if the circumstances validate

I disagree.  If you look at all the QB's that have won a Super Bowl I would guess that the vast majority of them are/were Company Men starting with Tom Brady & Patrick Mahomes.  Brady didn't push back on Belicheck until he was well over 40 years old and had won 6 Super Bowls.   

[CNYfan]

So Josh left a perfect pocket and missed an easy td and everyone is ragging Coleman? 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I disagree.  If you look at all the QB's that have won a Super Bowl I would guess that the vast majority of them are/were Company Men starting with Tom Brady & Patrick Mahomes.  Brady didn't push back on Belicheck until he was well over 40 years old and had won 6 Super Bowls.   

Tom Brady had zero problem screaming at players on the sideline who were not pulling their 1/11 

 

That's my point 

 

This team literally prides itself on doing your job.. 1/11

 

If you're not pulling that Tom Brady 100% would rip into your ass.. so would Peyton Manning .. Peyton ripped into all pros.. Tom would scream at coaches

 

Tom Brady during his six Super bowl runs with the Patriots was constantly screaming at other players and other coaches... Josh is the most talented player in the NFL and my favorite we don't see that 

 

Tom held players accountable on game day

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, Process said:

This will be his last year here. I'm not even being that critical of his effort. It's just when you combine everything, the effort, the lack of a connection with Allen, the struggles in this offense, it just makes sense for everyone to get a fresh start. We'll trade him for a sixth round pick or something in the off-season.

 

Coleman will probably want it, and so will the bills.

You know when you lead people and his job is much more than my $30 million book of business which is peanuts, but so et8 es you just have to admit privately you made a mistake and move on.  You don’t have to mea culpa to the media at all.  Just change it.  He’s a waste of space.  I hope he doesn’t play another down for us.  We’d be better off.

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Did you red the text? It was exactly what you would want from your franchise QB after the decision was made.  There is nothing in that CBS story that indicated Allen helped make that pick.  The Bills scoring operation vetted Coleman and Allen probably said something along the lines of "yea, he looks good. go for it".  Once the decision as made to draft Coleman, which had to be Beans, Allen was all in.  Do you think things would have played out that day any differently if the Bills had taken McConkey?

 

 

 

 

If Allen said he really wanted McConkey after reviewing the tapes, or Worthy for that matter, that’s who Beane would have gotten for Josh.  After trading Diggs, there would have been a lot of pressure to make Josh happy and take his input.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Multiple wide receivers open quick 

bro what are you seeing lol

 

those two crossers underneath arent even looking back for the ball

[BananaB]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

I think there were several people that wanted to double dip early on wide receiver. It was absolutely no reason not to. 

I don't know that worthy would have been the best fit for our offense, in McConkey is a slot guy would have taken reps from Shakir. But having both of those two on this team over Coleman would be a vat improvement 

 

I was thinking more like getting Troy Franklin later, and even ad Mitchell at some point since he fell so far

Double dipping would have been nice, seems like we do it on defense often.  I was thinking Lagette and Franklin but I was higher on Franklin than anyone. He was just such a smooth runner in and out of breaks, reminded me of a taller Desean Jackson.  Franklins biggest negative was he was too thin. Maybe for 90s and early 00s football, today the game is soft. 

[Billz4ever]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Imagine being Josh and seeing that news.

I think this face already says it all.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Multiple wide receivers open quick 

Yes, Josh bailed on a clean pocket and had an easy throw to Samuel had he waited another second, but that's not the point.

 

Keon's effort on that play was pathetic.

Edited 1 hour ago by Billz4ever

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

bro what are you seeing lol

 

those two crossers underneath arent even looking back for the ball

 

If they're not looking back for the ball that's technically on then there were two crossers that were NFL open ... And frame by frame there is a point where at least one is looking

 

Literally college open and NFL open are completely different animals the windows are three times smaller 

 

There were two guys running open for NFL standards .. I'd rather see him rip the ball and hit them in the face and teach them a lesson

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[uticaclub]

2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

If Allen said he really wanted McConkey after reviewing the tapes, or Worthy for that matter, that’s who Beane would have gotten for Josh.  After trading Diggs, there would have been a lot of pressure to make Josh happy and take his input.

Josh isn't a scout. There is 0 chance Keon Coleman would be Tom Brady’s teammate for more than 2 games without an attitude change. Allen better break his left hand on Keon’s stupid jaw. Put those cookies in a bender and he can keep himself warm in that dumb yellow jacket he bought this summer

[Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

Why is he still on the field then?

the back shoulder throws on first down baby!!!! never fails!!!

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Maybe he could be a 50/50 guy, if JA could get him the ball more.

 

I blame JA for not throwing the ball to Coleman 22 times a game.

 

.........unacceptable.

The Joe Brady Model .LOL

Edited 1 hour ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[DCOrange]

6 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

They do and this is the effort they get from him, but to your point, I think they do use him wrong. He's not a boundary receiver. He's a big slot guy and nobody is convincing me otherwise.

 

 

I assume OP means putting him in motion as a means to get him the ball, not this kinda thing where he's just trying to occupy defenders to open up space for his teammates. 

 

This kind of half-assing when the play isn't designed for you drives me up a wall though. 

1 minute ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:

the back shoulder throws on first down baby!!!! never fails!!!

First down is for handoffs into the teeth of the defense. We save the back shoulder stuff for 3rd and 10!