Practice Injury Report 11/05

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

All the divorced dad's have the same wrist injury as Bosa, specifically the right hand.

 

I'm a lefty!

[Shortchaz]

Cook is going to get at least 1 vet rest day every week from here on. They can call it whatever they want.

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

 

That would imply you need to have someone close to the best RB in football as your 2nd or 3rd RB.

 

Anyone who has an Elite RB has this problem. If you have someone like a Cook or a Taylor, you're going to have a massive dropoff if they go down. League wide, 2nd or 3rd RB's are fairly unimpressive ball carriers. 

 

Like the best situations league wide are going from Bijan Robinson to Tyler Allgier or from Christian McCaffrey to Brian Robinson. And like having a decent Backup QB, these are outliers. Most teams with good to very good RB's go from a James Cook to a Ty Johnson or Ray Davis.

Edited 22 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Paup 1995MVP]

2 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

Likely they don't.  But my point is, the franchise is in upheaval.  There are multiple issues going on over there.

You are correct.  There certainly are.  McDaniel is in over his head as the head coach.  

 

And there are a lot of distractions in South Florida.  I live part time in Fort Lauderdale.  And my boys who are in their 20's live in Miami.  A lot of fun, (if you know what I mean) that can take your focus away from what you should be prioritizing.

 

In the high rise I live in down there, I rode up the elevator one day with this huge dude.  I had a Bills T shirt on.  And he made a favorable comment about Bills Mafia.  I asked who he was.  And it was Patrick Paul.  The Dolphins Left OT.  He was real friendly.  Just massive.  And I am over 6 feet.  

[DaVinci]

I dont know I think we are going to dismantle the Dolphins. 

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

By my count, thats 8 players on the defensive side of the ball on the injury report this week to go along with the other 9 defensive players placed on IR since the start of training camp...not including people that are banged up but not showing up on the list...thats about as bad as I can remember.

Undersized and under conditioned

[billsfan_34]

5 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

As we get into the latter stages of the season, I suspect we will see Davis and Johnson get more carries. With that said, Cook is elite and will most likely get 16-20 carries per. 

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

Beane deserves scrutiny in lots of places 

[CSBill]

I wonder how miserable you'd all be if we had a bad GM?

[mannc]

It would probably just be easier to just list the players who are not hurt…

[uninja]

7 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

We paid him and we should use him, he’s our best player not named Josh Allen

[Chicharito]

[BillsFanForever19]

Everyone likes to question Strength & Conditioning but one thing i've started to wonder about is if McDermott pushes guys too hard throughout the week. 

 

On top of the injuries week to week, we seem to have a lot of injuries occur outside of Game Day.

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

 

9 hours ago, Jon in Pasadena said:

That comes out to 4.8 carries per quarter over a full season. That doesn't seem crazy to me for RB1

 

Put it this way... last year Cook averaged 15 touches per game. This year he's averaging 21.

 

While to some that might not seem like a lot, it's a 40% increase in workload and for a running back, that's a lot.

 

10 hours ago, jlatas said:

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Hold them out against Miami.

 

9 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

No we need to win.

 

9 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

If the pats weren’t breathing down our necks we’d probably have that option but I don’t think you can risk it here.  Division record is gonna be huge.  Pats and bills should both end up 4-0 against everyone else and if the bills win the rematch with them it gets pushed to conference record where the bills have a pretty big edge at the moment.  Dropping a surprising one against Miami probably blows the tiebreaker for good 

 

if it was the jets who just traded away a lot of their team maybe we could get away with it but Miami still has a little bit of juice 

 

9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Totally disagree.

 

This is the NFL, on any given Sunday any team can beat any other team.  Certainly if rest them if it makes sense but NOT because you think Miami is a cak walk., sends the entire team the wrong message and sets us up for the feared "trap game".

 

Obviously we can't rest all of them and obviously we can't play all of them.

 

Just like the discussion of who we cut when Ogunjobi and Hoecht return from suspension, this is a situation that's gonna take care of itself.

 

4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That would imply you need to have someone close to the best RB in football as your 2nd or 3rd RB.

 

Anyone who has an Elite RB has this problem. If you have someone like a Cook or a Taylor, you're going to have a massive dropoff if they go down. League wide, 2nd or 3rd RB's are fairly unimpressive ball carriers. 

 

Like the best situations league wide are going from Bijan Robinson to Tyler Allgier or from Christian McCaffrey to Brian Robinson. And like having a decent Backup QB, these are outliers. Most teams with good to very good RB's go from a James Cook to a Ty Johnson or Ray Davis.

 

Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet, Bucky Irving and Rachaad White, Rico Dowdle and Chubba Hubbard... 

 

There's always gonna be a drop-off when you have someone of the caliber of James Cook but one way or another we still need much better play from our 2nd running back.

 

3 hours ago, ganesh said:

Beane deserves scrutiny in lots of places 

 

Is that according to the Thigh Doctor?

 

[Nephilim17]

Treat Miami like a bye-week and rest up the guys who are banged up.

[eball]

Internet doc saying Cook's ankle could be high sprain varierty and he should sit this week.

 

[Sojourner]

18 hours ago, buffblue said:

Cook is on pace to have 325 carries for the season. He is not a large guy. I know his smooth running style and body control prevents him from taking a lot of big hits, but he is getting too much work imo. The problem is the Bills entire offense is so extremely reliant on him. If it feels difficult to remove him from the field because there is such a drop off, then it calls into question another area of roster building and depth where Beane deserves scrutiny.

You summed it up at the end. The drop off is so significant that we need him to have that work. 
 

You’ve paid him and he’s producing. Ride it as much and as long as you can. He’ll get his rest or reduction in usage towards seasons end when/if we are guaranteed a playoff spot. 

[5ths the charm]

So we bring in dudes that were undrafted that will sit on our practice squad, but there are no players in the whole league on another team's practice squad that could be a backup for us?  We have half our defense on the IR and there's nothing available; we are looking at out training camp bodies?

[The Jokeman]

13 hours ago, CSBill said:

I wonder how miserable you'd all be if we had a bad GM?

I remember Marv Levy as GM. Now those years were horrible. Toss in any other GM not named Polian or Beane. 

[Dillenger4]

Cook did get hurt in the Chiefs game. They taped him up twice after he was "buckled". The play looked like it could have been bad for him. So, I assume he will not play this week. We got lucky IMO.