Guys. Remember This offense...

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

It’s always strange how a player can fall so quickly. Amari Cooper and Gabe Davis are 2 that come to mind. Especially Gabe Davis who is only 26 ! I really thought he would be (at the least) a role player here for a very long time. 

Robert Foster was on a HOF track his rookie season

[Cray51]

Something I've noticed watching those games from prior years, having a top 5 WR in the game was special.  Allen had a guy who could catch a ball on the boundary in tight coverage while getting their feet down.

 

I'd love a Justin Jefferson, Chase, Diggs, etc.  It puts so much more pressure on Allen, but these guys are just so hard to add to a team who has been a sustained contender.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

two deep shell zone secondaries took most of this stuff away years ago. ,  but yes, I remember.  

 

…but that opened up the run game a bit. 

 

Pick your poison.

 

I bet we could pass the ball if we had to. Right? 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

44 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Robert Foster was on a HOF track his rookie season

Gabe Davis was a fixture in this offense for years though. What happened? 

[waterglass]

3 hours ago, Silvercrw said:

I was looking up some highlights of Gabe Davis yesterday to refresh my memory on his skill set.

 

https://youtu.be/1A3-zkL5Tjo?si=WJtErG1cJJgh-jOx

 

However, I noticed something glaring while doing so. Do you guys remember this offense?

 

Also, I think that they activated Gabe this week to see his status before the Nov 4 trade deadline to see if they need to make a trade. 

 

This is all on Brandon. He needs to return to his roots in Norwood, North Carolina, regroup and move on. 

[Gilberto]

3 hours ago, Silvercrw said:

I was looking up some highlights of Gabe Davis yesterday to refresh my memory on his skill set.

 

https://youtu.be/1A3-zkL5Tjo?si=WJtErG1cJJgh-jOx

 

However, I noticed something glaring while doing so. Do you guys remember this offense?

 

Also, I think that they activated Gabe this week to see his status before the Nov 4 trade deadline to see if they need to make a trade. 

Gabe definitely had some inconsistencies and weeks without any impact, but yes, I do miss those games where he played big. Maybe he can get back to that level?

[BearNorth]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

Together with playing a  last place schedule, the Pats are the Bills circa 2018- 2019.   

In case no one was noticing, Pats Schedule is currently ranked as the least difficult [32/32] schedule, Bills schedule is next to last [31/32] in difficulty. 

The Atlanta loss was a major coaching fail on both sides of the Ball. Can't afford any more of those. 

[ALLinALLEN]

31 minutes ago, waterglass said:

 

This is all on Brandon. He needs to return to his roots in Norwood, North Carolina, regroup and move on. 

Wait our GM is from Norwood? Like Scott? We willingly hired a man with that tie? Oh no

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

 

I bet we could pass the ball if we had to. Right? 

Without a doubt.  Actual catching of the pass does seem to be a matter of debate.

[JP51]

2 hours ago, Cray51 said:

I'll be honest, I think Allen, especially after last seasons injury in week 1, has dialed down runs during the regular season.

 

Allen will turn it up when the games matter.  As in, win or go home matter.  He wants to escape the pocket now, but you can tell he is trying to throw at all costs instead of going through a corner or running around a DE.

 

That will change when we get to January, 100%

Honestly thinking the same thing... probably foolish... but somewhere in the back of my mind I feel like are we just not showing everything right now?  Probably foolish again... but it seems that way... at least a bit... I do think when it comes playoff time, or if we are in a fight for the playoffs the gloves will come off Josh... 

[TheBrownBear]

Wow. That's an exciting video. 

 

Now somebody post a video of all of Josh's arm punts that were intended for Gabe.

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Kind of funny how that narrative started a few years ago.   Apparently no OC in the NFL knows how to beat it either.  Its full proof.

 

It's also funny looking at the formations from back then.  They are almost identical to what Brady is currently doing.   Daboll just used more motion, had multiple outcomes for the same look, and had better personnel. 

Mahomes and Reid couldn’t figure out their offense when they had garbage weapons.  Now they have better weapons and they suddenly have miraculously figured out cover 2. 

[CincyBillsFan]

5 hours ago, Silvercrw said:

I was looking up some highlights of Gabe Davis yesterday to refresh my memory on his skill set.

 

https://youtu.be/1A3-zkL5Tjo?si=WJtErG1cJJgh-jOx

 

However, I noticed something glaring while doing so. Do you guys remember this offense?

 

Also, I think that they activated Gabe this week to see his status before the Nov 4 trade deadline to see if they need to make a trade. 

And the highlights didn't include his 2 spectacular toe tap sideline catches against Indy in the playoff game.  

 

Of course we have no idea if that Gabe Davis is still available but we do know that his production from the last few years has NOT been replicated through the draft or by FA signings.

 

 

[GerstAusGosheim]

2 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

He will never come back with McDermott here.

 

Even better!!!

[CincyBillsFan]

12 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Wow. That's an exciting video. 

 

Now somebody post a video of all of Josh's arm punts that were intended for Gabe.

No one is saying that Davis was a superstar and there were no issues.  The Bills were right to let him go and not pay him 13 million dollars per year.  But the point is that the Bills have not replaced Davis's production at WR either in the draft or though FA signings. 

[GerstAusGosheim]

Sean hated this O. He'd put 7 blocking TEs on the field if he could.

[TheBrownBear]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

No one is saying that Davis was a superstar and there were no issues.  The Bills were right to let him go and not pay him 13 million dollars per year.  But the point is that the Bills have not replaced Davis's production at WR either in the draft or though FA signings. 

I agree and was just pointing out the flipside of highlight videos. I'm actually looking forward to Gabe's return at this point and want to see him taking Keon's reps. Gabe, Shakir and a healthy Palmer might be a serviceable enough WR corps to get the passing game moving again.

[Comebackkid]

Defenses are playing different now but some noticable things.

 

Josh much  more decisive and staying mostly in the pocket..moving up into the pocket to throw.   

 

think i only seen one pump fake, mostly get the ball, see the receiver and throw.

 

almost all these came of rb fake handoffs, that looked a lot better than how are are doing those now.  

 

also you could go back and do the same thing with Knox..he was tearing it up as well.

[SoMAn]

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’m hoping against hope that Brandon hasn’t slept in a week, working the phones for a WR we can afford and what current contracts can be manipulated to afford a good one. He’s the one responsible for the current dearth and only he can change this season crushing issue. 
 

Yes, we know Gabe can ‘dance toes’ along the sideline and if paired with Shavers speed on the other side will face single coverage a lot. But we don’t have a threat of deep threats and the absence is GLARING!

Why? Do you believe that one WR will be the difference in getting this team the Lombardi?

Anything can happen, but if I had to make a bet on the Bills winning, let along getting to the super bowl, I'd bet against them. 

 

To get a contributing player, the Bills would have to give up something perceived by the trade partner as being equal in value.

 

Do we really want to give up valuable draft and/or personnel assets for what would probably amount to a rent-a-player for 10 games?

 

There might be someone out there who can help like an Amari Cooper, but I don't want the Bills to keep chasing the super bowl by trading away the future. You can dismiss those mid-round draft picks if that's your argument, but they've hit on some good players in those rounds, and they're the ones that can help stay on budget.

 

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

I think one of your points here is underestimated... one I think we all knew would come to pass ... the Josh running threat has gone from Red to yellow... and I think teams are protecting against it less... the threat of him to run I think caused fits for D... Josh was always going to have to figure out a way to produce with this diminished threat...  I remember Elway... guy literally had to careers.. the Running Man... and the thinking man... took a bit actually for him to settle in to the new role.. 

The lack of of downfield passing ability makes it much easier for teams to do this, they are not concerned about getting beat deep because we have no wr that can,  allowing teams to cover much less space on the field.  Take the DBs deep and Josh's running room widens significantly