2025 Edition Trade Deadline Deals

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, CirclnWagons said:

I really don’t understand the worry about trading away picks. This admin has a proven track record of not being very successful with early round draft picks. Why not leverage one or two of those picks for a proven commodity now? 

I generally agree with you, but they have actually drafted a bunch of good players in rounds 1-3. Just clarifying! I am all for trading picks this year, though.

 

Dion Dawkins: second rounder (and while this happened in 2017, I strongly suspect Beane fed info to the Bills. The Bills jumped right ahead of Carolina to take him, and Beane joined the Bills the next month.)

 

James Cook: second rounder

 

Spencer Brown: third rounder

 

O'Cyrus Torrence: second rounder

 

Kincaid: first rounder

 

Ed Oliver: first rounder

 

Rousseau: first rounder

 

Cole Bishop: second rounder

Terrell Bernard: 3rd rounder although I'm unsure of his worth (he is a team captain, though, and was legit good in 2023)

 

Dawson Knox: third rounder. He's obviously not elite, but he's a core player in their run game and has had a solid career. 

 

 

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Get r dun!

 

 

Would rather have Waddle or one of their Pass Rushers. I think we're ok with Bishop, Hancock, and Poyer

If only we weren’t in their division.   I’d give up some draft capital for Fitz and Waddle.  

[Low Positive]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Get r dun!

 

 

Would rather have Waddle or one of their Pass Rushers. I think we're ok with Bishop, Hancock, and Poyer

Hendrickson is out right now with a hip injury.  And he actually is hurt because the Bengals are trying to win to stay in the AFC North race. He would also cost not only a first, but also a massive extension (top non-QB type contract) in order to make it work. I think if anyone makes that move, it will be the Pats (unfortunatly) because they have the assets and cap space. 

[NewEra]

39 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

True - but look at what happened right after Hoecht went out. Our D was back giving us heart attacks. They said it on the broadcast - Hoecht was the doubled man, his loss was significant. This is a massive loss. beane will make a move because now we know what it could be.....

I agree.  This is a massive loss, but your comment disparages the effort of many players.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

F&$% Them Picks, get it done. We dont hit on our 1st round picks anyways.

The current thinking seems to be starting to shift to we miss on second round picks most  but we do love to overreact to 1-2 games of course 😂 our first rounders in the josh era have been Josh, Edmunds, Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau, kaiir Elam, Kincaid,Hairston 

 

Second round picks are Cody ford, aj epenesa,boogie basham, James cook, Torrence, Coleman,bishop, TJ Sanders 

 

it’d be pretty cool to give up a second for a trade instead haha 

Edited 7 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Trying my best to ignore this thread and not ruin my Victory Monday. But we gotta do SOMETHING... right? 

Seriously.  A torn Achilles really puts a grey cloud over what should be sunshine  and rainbows.  
 

 

[No_Matter_What]

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

F&$% Them Picks, get it done. We dont hit on our 1st round picks anyways.

This is an interesting take after what we saw from Kincaid this season and both Kincaid and Hairston this game.

[mathja]

13 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

No just on TV, what’s your point? He’s made calls about every available FA and all I hear is how much cap space we have currently. Will you be asking about how confident he is when he says we’re good with what we have. Tell me about how we’re set up to win with the way this roster has been constructed. Being a good fan doesn’t mean you support crappy management and criticize detractors.. I swallowed that stuff for 2 decades. No more

What’s my point?
 

My point isn’t about anything you said in this recent post. It’s not about whether or not I blindly support the team and management. None of that was part of the equation.

 

My one & only point… I think it’s wild that fans can look at a guy on TV for three seconds and surmise that “he looks shaky.”

[billsfan89]

I would love to see the Bills still go out there and get a WR. They need more production at WR. Palmer coming back should help but he's a lower end WR2 at best, teams won't really respect him esp if they can just put a good corner on him. The Bills adding Shaheed or another solid to good boundary WR (ideally with some speed) would future proof the offenses against better defenses that the team will have to beat in the regular season and playoffs. 

 

I also think the D-line needs a body desperately. If this team could extend Connor McGovern to lower his cap hit this season and get him locked in for 3-4 more seasons I think the Bills could make two additions. 

 

1. Swap a 3rd for a 5th or 6th to the Saints for Rasheed Shaheed. Gets some special teams pop and a boundary WR that teams will respect more. Complements Palmer well on the outside and allows the team to move Keon to the slot more. 
2. Add Calais Campbell as a durable D-line body with some maneuverability. Trade a 5th for a 7th to make that happen. Would help ease the loss of Hoecht as while Campbell doesn't have the same flexibility he brings some of that. 
3. Plan B for Campbell would be to trade a 7th for Harrison Phillips, durable vet DT just to get another body there. 

[Dillenger4]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree.  This is a massive loss, but your comment disparages the effort of many players.  

I get it - our D played a great game and I agree - many players played a part.

Just tough to see we are finally looking great and WHAM, down goes Hoecht. UGH.

[JGMcD2]

Just now, CirclnWagons said:

I really don’t understand the worry about trading away picks. This admin has a proven track record of not being very successful with early round draft picks. Why not leverage one or two of those picks for a proven commodity now? 

They’ve drafted perfectly well — they just haven’t lucked into an elite player while consistently picking in the back third of the first round. Few teams do.

 

If you define “early-round picks” as Day 1 and Day 2 selections, their track record holds up just fine:

 

Josh Allen
Tremaine Edmunds
Ed Oliver
Greg Rousseau
Spencer Brown
James Cook
Terrel Bernard
Dalton Kincaid
O’Cyrus Torrence

 

That’s 9 of 17 Day 1–2 picks from 2018–2023 who are above-average NFL players — including three elite ones (Allen, Cook, and Brown) and another two or three (Oliver, Rousseau, Kincaid) who are significantly above average. It’s also worth noting that judging a draft class in less than two years is unreasonable; the most recent groups are still developing.

 

You can also include Harrison Phillips, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, AJ Epenesa, and Dorian Williams as solid depth pieces or average starters.

 

Across six drafts, they’ve really only missed on three early-round picks: Kaiir Elam (1st), Boogie Basham (2nd), and Cody Ford (2nd).

 

For comparison:

 

Chiefs (19 early-round picks) — misses include Breeland Speaks (2nd), Dorian O'Daniel (3rd), Clyde Edwards-Helaire (1st), Lucas Niang (3rd), Skyy Moore (2nd), and Felix Anudike-Uzomah (1st).

 

Eagles (17 early-round picks) — misses include Andre Dillard (1st), JJ Arcega-Whiteside (2nd), Jalen Reagor (1st), and Davion Taylor (3rd).

 

I can assure you — 90% of the league would love to have our draft record.

[BuffaloBillyG]

43 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Nice take, I wish I could be more confident Beane makes a move. I watched him in the press box yesterday and he looked shaky. He knows this team desperately needs fortification and I think he’s afraid to spend draft capital to make it happen. Everyone says he’s making calls about all these positions but where are the F-ing deals. If we get stiffed we’ll suffer the consequences in January.

Were his palms sweaty, knees weak, were his arms heavy? By chance, was there vomit on his sweater already that looked like Mom's spaghetti?

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

5 minutes ago, mathja said:

What’s my point?
 

My point isn’t about anything you said in this recent post. It’s not about whether or not I blindly support the team and management. None of that was part of the equation.

 

My one & only point… I think it’s wild that fans can look at a guy on TV for three seconds and surmise that “he looks shaky.”

I see him on Pat MaCafee sticking his chest out defiantly questioning people who disagree with his personnel decisions but at some point a few days before the deadline your ass puckers when you’re faced with failing at making a crucial move to help your team. I saw a guy in the press box who was watching the dominoes falling and he was seeing options dry up.

[TBBills Fan]

I'd like to see a trade before the deadline. 

 

DT and WR are the biggest needs it seems

 

I'd be happy with either, but I think DT is a bigger need at this point

[Donuts and Doritos]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Were his palms sweaty, knees weak, were his arms heavy? By chance, was there vomit on his sweater already that looked like Mom's spaghetti?

 

 

He's nervous, but on the surface, he looks calm and ready

To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting 

What he wrote down, the whole crowd grows so loud

He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out

He's chokin', how? Everybody's jokin' now

The clock's run out, times up, over, blaow!

[sven233]

34 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

 

 

Solomon is an interesting player.  Undersized, but had a ton of production in college even if not at the highest level.  He flashed last year as a rookie in limited playing time.  I counted several times where he got to the QB, but just didn't finish.  He just couldn't get the QB to the ground, but the pass rush itself was there.

 

However, this season hasn't been the step I had hoped for.  He was actually pretty bad earlier this year when getting a ton of run while we waited for Hoecht to get back.  But, there was a big difference yesterday in the way he was used than how he has been used earlier this season.  Until now, a majority of his rushes came off the edge and get was just getting swallowed up by bigger tackles.  His speed was kind of negated by his size and tackles with length and he wasn't getting home.  Yesterday, and you can see it in this clip, even though it wasn't a ton of reps he was put into the "Hoecht" role and rushing on the inside and I thought he had a bit more success when he did.  I haven't watched the All 22 yet to see every rep, but on first watch, it seemed as though his speed and quickness was giving interior lineman fits in the limited snaps he had there.  With Hoecht out, this is really the area they need to fill.  Hoecht was very effective bullying guards up the middle and that's a lot of where he rushed from in the game and a half or whatever it is that we had him.  So, that was his role.  Lorenzo Alexander had a similar role when he was here and found great success as a pass rusher in the middle of the defense using his speed.  I am not saying Solomon is going to be the answer there, but I do think if played in that role, you will see him have a little more success than he was having coming off the edge.  But we'll see.  He is still undersized for the role, but maybe his speed a quickness will be enough for him to make an impact there against guards that don't move as well.

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

I see him on Pat MaCafee sticking his chest out defiantly questioning people who disagree with his personnel decisions but at some point a few days before the deadline your ass puckers when you’re faced with failing at making a crucial move to help your team. I saw a guy in the press box who was watching the dominoes falling and he was seeing options dry up.

I mean, in defense of Beane, most of the people questioning his personnel decisions are probably the same folks who think they can tell what someone is thinking from a ten-second clip of them sitting alone in a press box on national television.

 

I wouldn’t give much credence to those people either.

[mathja]

3 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

I see him on Pat MaCafee sticking his chest out defiantly questioning people who disagree with his personnel decisions but at some point a few days before the deadline your ass puckers when you’re faced with failing at making a crucial move to help your team. I saw a guy in the press box who was watching the dominoes falling and he was seeing options dry up.

I know man. So many wide receivers already got traded this year. Like 6 of them. And none to the Bills. 
 

I went back and watched a tape of the broadcast. I changed my mind. I totally see what you mean. He was shaky. His knees were wobbling. He might’ve even been on drugs. Either that, or his blood sugar was really low. He should probably see a doctor.

[Pete]

2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

I mean, in defense of Beane, most of the people questioning his personnel decisions are probably the same folks who think they can tell what someone is thinking from a ten-second clip of them sitting alone in a press box on national television.

 

I wouldn’t give much credence to those people either.

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

49 minutes ago, CirclnWagons said:

I really don’t understand the worry about trading away picks. This admin has a proven track record of not being very successful with early round draft picks. Why not leverage one or two of those picks for a proven commodity now? 

The part that seems to get overlooked is draft picks turn into players on rookie deals for 4 maybe 5 years, the player you’re trading for is not usually in a situation like that..  if there’s a guy you like long term anyway and you’ve got the current/future cap space it takes some of that sting out of losing an early pick but trading a pick for a short term rental hurts because you’re losing the opportunity to have a guy play for you for essentially nothing and the player you’re trading for could leave you anyway 

 

those ‘I want this guy long term’ type trade prospects get a ton of interest from other teams so the price gets driven up 

 

honestly if Hairston works out the first round picks have been quite good…way too early to tell though of course haha bishop,Kincaid, and Hairston could rewrite a lot of the script on our early picks but we’ll see how they look long term 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan