Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[nedboy7]

Ironic that we’re only one week away from the “no one in the AFC scares us “ declarations.  Yeah this is why you don’t get hyped up after barely beating the Chiefs. 

Edited yesterday at 01:38 PM by nedboy7

[May Day 10]

34 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

I don't think that graphic is solely based on team's fan viewership. If you did this same graphic the years they were winning SBs the numbers would be a lot different.

 

 

And the pats are only 1 game up. As a pats fans it's cool to be relevant again, but the bills still have Josh Allen so no matter how it looks now doesn't mean it's gonna play out the same way.

 

The damn 9-7 Giants won a SB in 01(the pats 16-0 yr). Bills get hot at the right time with Josh Allen we could be talking about the bills in the SB.

 

I don't believe the Bills are out of it or done.  Could definitely be a team that clicks and wins 4 playoff games in a row...

 

But looking at the schedules, how the Bills are built and playing, looking at the Patriots (even the Colts/Broncos/Chargers)... it is a huge uphill climb at this point.  I haven't felt that the Bills have been this vulnerable since Covid.  

 

The fact that there is no/zero wide receiver threat at all is unprecedented in a real contending team.  Kincaid pulled his hammy and is probably going to out past Christmas and he was the only credible threat past 5 yards down the field.  Cook is good, but stop him and the offense is done.  Defense is broken/injured, undersized and any back who runs downhill is going to feed them their lunch.  They can sell out to stop the RB, but then, any of the other 31 teams who have a better WR room than the Bills will make them pay.

 

They are going to need to perform a pretty extensive surgery on this roster.  So much dead money tied up in worthless, redundant, aging, and/or oft-injured players.  

 

The world is New England's oyster for the time being with a good coach, good OC, hungry roster, and a competent QB on a rookie deal.  

[50yrpatsfan]

It's not just Vrabel, McDaniels, and Maye's rise. It's the 14 new starters (rookies and FA's) at LT, LG, C, RT, RB, WR1, WR3, NT, DE, 3 LB's, FS, CB2 - plus CB1 & stud DE returning after missing last season. 16 out of 22. Plus new TE2, FB. WR5, K. There's only 6 guys who played a big role from last year's team who still play a big role.   

 

New coaching staff, 16 new starters, a couple of new execs in the front office to assist Wolf. It's like the team plane crashed and they started over.   

Edited yesterday at 02:18 PM by 50yrpatsfan

[CirclnWagons]

I’ve stated this multiple times and been absolutely crushed for it. Top to bottom, the Pats are the far superior roster in terms of talent. Beane continues to stick to his guns on his preference for slow, unathletic receivers and the team continues to be fine telling 17 to just figure it out. It was only a matter of time before we were sent back to the basement of the AFC east even with a once in a generation talent at QB

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said:

It's not just Vrabel, McDaniels, and Maye's rise. It's the 14 new starters (rookies and FA's) at LT, LG, C, RT, RB, WR1, WR3, NT, DE, 3 LB's, FS, CB2 - plus CB1 & stud DE returning after missing last season. 16 out of 22. Plus new TE2, FB. WR5, K. There's only 6 guys who played a big role from last year's team who still play a big role.   

 

New coaching staff, 16 new starters, a couple of new execs in the front office to assist Wolf. It's like the team plane crashed and they started over.   

 

I'll give the Patriots all the credit in the world for drafting Maye and failing fast by firing the dolt they had at head coach last year.   Vrabel was a great hire.  That said, playing a last place schedule and being in the AFC East where you play the Jets and Dolphins twice a year is a huge part of what's going on with your team this year.

 

Congrats on being good for one year.   But slow down on patting yourself on the back on this "complete rebuild."     If you win the division this year come back and tell me how great your team is when you play a 1st place schedule. 

1 minute ago, CirclnWagons said:

I’ve stated this multiple times and been absolutely crushed for it. Top to bottom, the Pats are the far superior roster in terms of talent. Beane continues to stick to his guns on his preference for slow, unathletic receivers and the team continues to be fine telling 17 to just figure it out. It was only a matter of time before we were sent back to the basement of the AFC east even with a once in a generation talent at QB

 

Except they arent in the basement.  I agree on the roster, I've heard all year about how the Bills have so much depth, meanwhile we have practice squad players playing meaningful snaps every week.    The Bills havent had the benefit of having a last place schedule in 12 years.   The Patriots have a few good wins, but for the most part they play crap teams week in and week out. 

[Ghost_002!]

10 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

I don't believe the Bills are out of it or done.  Could definitely be a team that clicks and wins 4 playoff games in a row...

 

But looking at the schedules, how the Bills are built and playing, looking at the Patriots (even the Colts/Broncos/Chargers)... it is a huge uphill climb at this point.  I haven't felt that the Bills have been this vulnerable since Covid.  

 

The fact that there is no/zero wide receiver threat at all is unprecedented in a real contending team.  Kincaid pulled his hammy and is probably going to out past Christmas and he was the only credible threat past 5 yards down the field.  Cook is good, but stop him and the offense is done.  Defense is broken/injured, undersized and any back who runs downhill is going to feed them their lunch.  They can sell out to stop the RB, but then, any of the other 31 teams who have a better WR room than the Bills will make them pay.

 

They are going to need to perform a pretty extensive surgery on this roster.  So much dead money tied up in worthless, redundant, aging, and/or oft-injured players.  

 

The world is New England's oyster for the time being with a good coach, good OC, hungry roster, and a competent QB on a rookie deal.  

 

Yea I see what you are saying, they do cast doubts and the road as of now is easier for the pats, but the way the Bills took apart KC last week. I know there is still a "team" in there that could be very dangerous from whatever seed they will be. As a rival fan the Bills still a problem, until they are not. 

[Jeffbigalls]

12 hours ago, Success said:

I'm still not buying in. The Bucs blew it today.

 

They're definitely good, but are being hyped like a top-tier team - and they're just not that.

 

This is a Commanders type of run they're having.  "Back down to earth" will be on the menu at some point. Though, with the way we're playing, it might net them a division title this year.

 

They are a top tier team thru 10 games, they fine ways to win games, they are the best team in the AFC East thru 10 games. 

Top tier teams find ways to win games, not lose games. 

 When they play buffalo again off the bye and beat them we can see what excuse will be then.

[CEN-CAL17]

The Pats have a better coach! Leading to better overall coaching top to bottom.

 

McDermott and his staffs time has come to an end. I’m sorry. I can’t anymore. He’s not the guy, knew it 4-5 years ago, but here we are singing the same song!

[racketmaster]

They are well coached and have a young qb that is playing at a higher level than our qb while also in a cheap rookie deal. They also made the wise decision to bring in some veterans with high energy and competitive fire in Hollins and Diggs. Our defense had Hoehct but he quickly got injured. Allen is not that guy like Brady or Mahomes to get on his teammates and we don’t have any other guys on offense that provide that fire and juice. Patriots have the division in the bag, Bills will need to find their way to a wild card spot. 

[The Frankish Reich]

I've only watched the Pats in the Bills game an in yesterday's game (didn't have access to Bills-Dolphins, and it seems I didn't miss anything).

 

I hate to say it, but I think their roster - and for sure their active roster - is better than ours, except for Allen vs. Maye.

 

That's a pretty big exception, and it made us the clear favorites, but now Maye is emerging as a very good QB a little ahead of schedule. Crazy how that works. Last year everyone thought there was a huge gap between Jayden Daniels and Maye and Caleb. A redraft today? Maye would go first, and it's not even close.

[TheBrownBear]

Pats have the better coach and roster. We have the better QB for now. Feels a bit like watching the '94 Bills right now.

[Low Positive]

The Pats being good is why this board, and the entirety of Bills Mafia, is in a full-on panic right now. It feels like a return to a 20-year nightmare. 

[WNYFAN1]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Pats have the better coach and roster. We have the better QB for now. Feels a bit like watching the '94 Bills right now.

Not this season we don't (QB). Now obviously there's a lot of games left, and that could change.

[PatsFanNH]

10 hours ago, NoSaint said:

the pats barely had a fan base…. 42 years ago!

The fans left in droves when Sullivan was still owning the team. He was incompetent owner and the team was beyond bad.. the fans came back once Kraft bought the team and have had a waiting list for Season tickets ever since. 

[IYKYK]

5 hours ago, Low Positive said:

The Pats being good is why this board, and the entirety of Bills Mafia, is in a full-on panic right now. It feels like a return to a 20-year nightmare. 

A little over dramatic? No one is in a full on panic over a football game. lol

5 hours ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Not this season we don't (QB). Now obviously there's a lot of games left, and that could change.

I’d take Allen over maye everyday and twice on Sunday. Allen is still way better than maye is at this point. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

10 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

Ironic that we’re only one week away from the “no one in the AFC scares us “ declarations.  Yeah this is why you don’t get hyped up after barely beating the Chiefs. 

Barely beat the Chiefs ? Yeah, if you just look at the score. The Bills won convincingly. Don’t take that from them because you’re mad. 

[Success]

9 hours ago, Jeffbigalls said:

They are a top tier team thru 10 games, they fine ways to win games, they are the best team in the AFC East thru 10 games. 

Top tier teams find ways to win games, not lose games. 

 When they play buffalo again off the bye and beat them we can see what excuse will be then.

 

Guaranteeing a win, are we?

 

Fun.

 

[WNYFAN1]

12 hours ago, IYKYK said:

A little over dramatic? No one is in a full on panic over a football game. lol

I’d take Allen over maye everyday and twice on Sunday. Allen is still way better than maye is at this point. 

What's he doing better than Maye this year?

[Sweats]

I just wonder what Beane and McD are thinking when they see that Vrabel comes in for his first year in NE and they're lighting it up........all the while, they've been running this ship for the past 9 years, haven't won anything in terms of championships and completely have this team headed in the wrong direction.

 

NE has a far superior cap situation, whereas we have no food at the trough, garbage contracts and subpar talent.........it's been 9 years and we still can't figure it out.

Also, this dumpster diving for players is nonsense.

 

My old man used to always say, "you want big?......you aim big".

You shoot for mediocre for 9 years and are surprised that it's not working out, all the while, watching a young and hungry NE team in a far better position than we are, coming in and taking over.

 

Changing of the guard, so to speak.

[Psautcsk]

43 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

What's he doing better than Maye this year?

Nothing, except more commercials.

Edited 1 hour ago by Psautcsk