Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[PatsFanNH]

8 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I’m one of those ppl that needs to see multiple years of great production before I’m sold. The Patriots schedule is a joke. The only remaining elite team they face is Tampa. 

 

 

 

Lmao I find that funny because in the beginning of the year Buffalo, Baltimore, and Cincy I had all as L’s I had Tampa as a toss up.. mind you Cincy O is legit with Flacco even their WR are scary good and Lamar and the Ravens will be interesting and scary if their D wakes up. 

[Chaos]

21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Yeah, they were able to secure a good Head Coach and hit the jackpot on all 3 of their Top Draft Picks the past 3 seasons with an All Pro CB, a Franchise QB, and a future All Pro OT. On top of that, they had more money under the cap than every other team in the league and spent wisely. Securing Stefon Diggs who bounced back from his ACL without missing a step.

 

The division honestly looks like less than a 50% proposition to me, now that they have a game up on us. At the time, that loss didn't seem like the end of the world. Now we must beat them in their house and beat their record. A big ask with how they're looking lately.

The loss gave them hope and swagger.  We blew a champion's opportunity to step on their throats and keep them in their place.  

Edited 14 hours ago by Chaos

[SF Bills Fan]

They look very good. We will see, though. Lots of season left. The Commanders looked awesome last year and now they look more average. The Dolphins were all the rage when they were scoring 70 on the Broncos and everyone thought they had arrived. Things change. The Pats do look to be on the right track, though. 

[The Frankish Reich]

I will stop hating them when Kraft finally departs.

And I don't mean departs New England.

[first_and_ten]

19 hours ago, Success said:

Call me in denial, but I'm a "jury is still out" guy.

 

I thought the Browns might give them their 1st tough test (I don't count the Hochuli game), but the Browns O was absolutely abysmal today, and lost the TOP battle badly, as well as the turnover battle.

 

They'll have a better record this year than they will next year.   

 

 

So why do they continue to stick with Gabriel? They have Sanders, but seem dead set on NOT giving him a chance.

[Pete]

On 8/7/2025 at 11:44 AM, Pete said:

Know Your Enemies. 

 

Pats D was 9th in NFL DVOA 2024.

 

The Patriots' secondary is expected to be a strength in the 2025 season, with a combination of strong young players and veteran additions.

 

Key players include Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis at cornerback, and Jabrill Peppers, Kyle Dugger, and Marcus Epps at safety.

 

Key players and their roles:

 

Cornerbacks:Christian Gonzalez: Emerging star cornerback, expected to take another leap in his development.Carlton Davis: Veteran cornerback signed in free agency, known for his physicality and press coverage.Marcus Jones: A quality slot corner, potentially playing more on offense, according to some analysts.

 

Safeties:Jabrill Peppers: An elite safety with high overall grades in recent seasons.Kyle Dugger: A solid starter, though he battled injuries last season.Marcus Epps: Another safety who provides depth and competition.

 

Strengths and Expectations:

 

ESPN predicts the secondary will be the Patriots' top strength in 2025.The combination of Gonzalez and Davis is expected to be one of the league's top cornerback duos.The Patriots are aiming to re-establish their defensive identity with a revamped coaching staff and a strong secondary.NBC Sports Boston suggests the secondary has the potential to be a shutdown unit.

 

CUPCAKE SCHEDULE

1September 71:00 p.m.Las Vegas RaidersGillette StadiumCBS

2September 141:00 p.m.at Miami DolphinsHard Rock StadiumCBS

3September 211:00 p.m.Pittsburgh SteelersGillette StadiumCBS

4September 281:00 p.m.Carolina PanthersGillette StadiumFox

5October 58:20 p.m.at Buffalo BillsHighmark StadiumNBC

6October 124:25 p.m.at New Orleans SaintsCaesars SuperdomeCBS

7October 191:00 p.m.at Tennessee TitansNissan StadiumCBS

8October 261:00 p.m.Cleveland BrownsGillette StadiumFox

9November 21:00 p.m.Atlanta FalconsGillette StadiumCBS

10November 91:00 p.m.at Tampa Bay BuccaneersRaymond James StadiumCBS

11November 138:15 p.m.New York JetsGillette StadiumPrime Video

12November 231:00 p.m.at Cincinnati BengalsPaycor StadiumCBS

13December 18:15 p.m.New York GiantsGillette StadiumESPN

14Bye

15December 141:00 p.m.Buffalo BillsGillette StadiumCBS

16December 211:00 p.m.at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank StadiumCBS

17December 281:00 p.m.at New York JetsMetLife StadiumCBS

18January 3/4TBDMiami DolphinsGillette StadiumTBD

 

A FIRST PLACE SCHEDULE

1September 78:20 p.m.Baltimore RavensHighmark StadiumNBC

2September 141:00 p.m.at New York JetsMetLife StadiumCBS

3September 188:15 p.m.Miami DolphinsHighmark StadiumPrime Video

4September 281:00 p.m.New Orleans SaintsHighmark StadiumCBS

5October 58:20 p.m.New England PatriotsHighmark StadiumNBC

6October 137:15 p.m.at Atlanta FalconsMercedes-Benz StadiumESPN

7Bye

8October 261:00 p.m.at Carolina PanthersBank of America StadiumFox

9November 24:25 p.m.Kansas City ChiefsHighmark StadiumCBS

10November 91:00 p.m.at Miami DolphinsHard Rock StadiumCBS

11November 161:00 p.m.Tampa Bay BuccaneersHighmark StadiumCBS

12November 208:15 p.m.at Houston TexansNRG StadiumPrime Video

13November 304:25 p.m.at Pittsburgh SteelersAcrisure StadiumCBS

14December 74:25 p.m.Cincinnati BengalsHighmark StadiumFox

15December 141:00 p.m.at New England PatriotsGillette StadiumCBS

16December 211:00 p.m.at Cleveland BrownsHuntington Bank FieldCBS

17December 284:25 p.m.Philadelphia EaglesHighmark StadiumFox

18January 3/4TBDNew York JetsHighmark StadiumTBD

 

The Buffalo Bills are heavily favored to win the AFC East in 2025, with some projections even suggesting a near certainty. While other teams in the division, like the Patriots and Dolphins, are expected to improve, the Bills are seen as the clear frontrunners. 

Here's a more detailed look at the projected wins for each team:

Buffalo Bills:

Projected to win the division, with some predictions placing their win total at 12-5 or even 13-4. 

New England Patriots:

Expected to be more competitive than recent years, with projections around 9-8. 

Miami Dolphins:

Projections range from 8-9 to potentially 10-11 wins, with health being a key factor. 

New York Jets:

Projected to be at the bottom of the division, with predictions around 7-10 wins. 

The Bills' dominance in the division is largely attributed to their strong performance over the past five seasons and the continued presence of star quarterback Josh Allen. However, the Patriots, with new leadership and some key acquisitions, are seen as the most likely to challenge the Bills for the division title. 

 

 

Quote

eball

Posted August 7

  On 8/7/2025 at 5:58 AM,  Pete said:

great D, awesome secondary, Drake is the real deal, and they have that easy last place schedule.  Pats are finishing second, and perhaps a playoff birth IMO

 

Whoa, lets pump the brakes just a bit there, partner…

 

 

Quote

Pete

Posted August 7

  On 8/7/2025 at 7:06 AM,  eball said:

 

Whoa, lets pump the brakes just a bit there, partner…

 

-check back in 4 months

[HOUSE]

My honest opinion,  glad you asked.

The Patriots have been lucky, very few injuries but it won't be long till they crash and burn when the luck runs out.

They are one Diggs knee sprain away..

[PatsFanNH]

11 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

My honest opinion,  glad you asked.

The Patriots have been lucky, very few injuries but it won't be long till they crash and burn when the luck runs out.

They are one Diggs knee sprain away..

They would survive without Diggs he had 3 catches yesterday for 15 yards.. Boutte and Douglas had more yards than him as did Milton.. The O will be Ok unless Maye gets hurt.. he gets hurt they area. Dumpster fire again. 

24 minutes ago, Pete said:

On 8/7/2025 at 11:44 AM, Pete said:

Know Your Enemies. 

 

Pats D was 9th in NFL DVOA 2024.

 

The Patriots' secondary is expected to be a strength in the 2025 season, with a combination of strong young players and veteran additions.

 

Key players include Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis at cornerback, and Jabrill Peppers, Kyle Dugger, and Marcus Epps at safety.

 

Key players and their roles:

 

Cornerbacks:Christian Gonzalez: Emerging star cornerback, expected to take another leap in his development.Carlton Davis: Veteran cornerback signed in free agency, known for his physicality and press coverage.Marcus Jones: A quality slot corner, potentially playing more on offense, according to some analysts.

 

Safeties:Jabrill Peppers: An elite safety with high overall grades in recent seasons.Kyle Dugger: A solid starter, though he battled injuries last season.Marcus Epps: Another safety who provides depth and competition.

 

Strengths and Expectations:

 

ESPN predicts the secondary will be the Patriots' top strength in 2025.The combination of Gonzalez and Davis is expected to be one of the league's top cornerback duos.The Patriots are aiming to re-establish their defensive identity with a revamped coaching staff and a strong secondary.NBC Sports Boston suggests the secondary has the potential to be a shutdown unit.

 

CUPCAKE SCHEDULE

1September 71:00 p.m.Las Vegas RaidersGillette StadiumCBS

2September 141:00 p.m.at Miami DolphinsHard Rock StadiumCBS

3September 211:00 p.m.Pittsburgh SteelersGillette StadiumCBS

4September 281:00 p.m.Carolina PanthersGillette StadiumFox

5October 58:20 p.m.at Buffalo BillsHighmark StadiumNBC

6October 124:25 p.m.at New Orleans SaintsCaesars SuperdomeCBS

7October 191:00 p.m.at Tennessee TitansNissan StadiumCBS

8October 261:00 p.m.Cleveland BrownsGillette StadiumFox

9November 21:00 p.m.Atlanta FalconsGillette StadiumCBS

10November 91:00 p.m.at Tampa Bay BuccaneersRaymond James StadiumCBS

11November 138:15 p.m.New York JetsGillette StadiumPrime Video

12November 231:00 p.m.at Cincinnati BengalsPaycor StadiumCBS

13December 18:15 p.m.New York GiantsGillette StadiumESPN

14Bye

15December 141:00 p.m.Buffalo BillsGillette StadiumCBS

16December 211:00 p.m.at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank StadiumCBS

17December 281:00 p.m.at New York JetsMetLife StadiumCBS

18January 3/4TBDMiami DolphinsGillette StadiumTBD

 

A FIRST PLACE SCHEDULE

1September 78:20 p.m.Baltimore RavensHighmark StadiumNBC

2September 141:00 p.m.at New York JetsMetLife StadiumCBS

3September 188:15 p.m.Miami DolphinsHighmark StadiumPrime Video

4September 281:00 p.m.New Orleans SaintsHighmark StadiumCBS

5October 58:20 p.m.New England PatriotsHighmark StadiumNBC

6October 137:15 p.m.at Atlanta FalconsMercedes-Benz StadiumESPN

7Bye

8October 261:00 p.m.at Carolina PanthersBank of America StadiumFox

9November 24:25 p.m.Kansas City ChiefsHighmark StadiumCBS

10November 91:00 p.m.at Miami DolphinsHard Rock StadiumCBS

11November 161:00 p.m.Tampa Bay BuccaneersHighmark StadiumCBS

12November 208:15 p.m.at Houston TexansNRG StadiumPrime Video

13November 304:25 p.m.at Pittsburgh SteelersAcrisure StadiumCBS

14December 74:25 p.m.Cincinnati BengalsHighmark StadiumFox

15December 141:00 p.m.at New England PatriotsGillette StadiumCBS

16December 211:00 p.m.at Cleveland BrownsHuntington Bank FieldCBS

17December 284:25 p.m.Philadelphia EaglesHighmark StadiumFox

18January 3/4TBDNew York JetsHighmark StadiumTBD

 

The Buffalo Bills are heavily favored to win the AFC East in 2025, with some projections even suggesting a near certainty. While other teams in the division, like the Patriots and Dolphins, are expected to improve, the Bills are seen as the clear frontrunners. 

Here's a more detailed look at the projected wins for each team:

Buffalo Bills:

Projected to win the division, with some predictions placing their win total at 12-5 or even 13-4. 

New England Patriots:

Expected to be more competitive than recent years, with projections around 9-8. 

Miami Dolphins:

Projections range from 8-9 to potentially 10-11 wins, with health being a key factor. 

New York Jets:

Projected to be at the bottom of the division, with predictions around 7-10 wins. 

The Bills' dominance in the division is largely attributed to their strong performance over the past five seasons and the continued presence of star quarterback Josh Allen. However, the Patriots, with new leadership and some key acquisitions, are seen as the most likely to challenge the Bills for the division title. 

 

 

Quote

eball

Posted August 7

  On 8/7/2025 at 5:58 AM,  Pete said:

great D, awesome secondary, Drake is the real deal, and they have that easy last place schedule.  Pats are finishing second, and perhaps a playoff birth IMO

 

Whoa, lets pump the brakes just a bit there, partner…

 

 

Quote

Pete

Posted August 7

  On 8/7/2025 at 7:06 AM,  eball said:

 

Whoa, lets pump the brakes just a bit there, partner…

 

-check back in 4 months

Funny thing Pats had your schedule for 20 years and the Bills had a cupcake schedule some of those years.. your schedule is what it is.. just have to win the games you have.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

They would survive without Diggs he had 3 catches yesterday for 15 yards.. Boutte and Douglas had more yards than him as did Milton.. The O will be Ok unless Maye gets hurt.. he gets hurt they area. Dumpster fire again. 

Funny thing Pats had your schedule for 20 years and the Bills had a cupcake schedule some of those years.. your schedule is what it is.. just have to win the games you have.

It shows the importance of a good QB.    They call 70s and 80s sports cards junk cards.  2000- 20017 was junk QBs.  If you didn’t have Peyton or Brady you had no shot

[Success]

6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

They would survive without Diggs he had 3 catches yesterday for 15 yards.. Boutte and Douglas had more yards than him as did Milton.. The O will be Ok unless Maye gets hurt.. he gets hurt they area. Dumpster fire again. 

Funny thing Pats had your schedule for 20 years and the Bills had a cupcake schedule some of those years.. your schedule is what it is.. just have to win the games you have.

 

Diggs takes up a lot of attention - I have no doubt it helps those other guys.

 

If the Pats had the kind if injury situation we've had, we wouldn't be talking about them as a threat to the division.

 

They've been really lucky this year.

 

[Jeffbigalls]

5 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Maye will be a Trevor Lawrence type QB in the future. Jmo. Not top ten. Top fifteen maybe. Will need alot of support to win a SB. 

That's your hope lol

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

My honest opinion,  glad you asked.

The Patriots have been lucky, very few injuries but it won't be long till they crash and burn when the luck runs out.

They are one Diggs knee sprain away..

Keep telling yourself that , bills fans on panic mode 

[Success]

5 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said:

That's your hope lol

Keep telling yourself that , bills fans on panic mode 

 

You're a Pats fan, I take it?

 

Whatchya doin' here?

 

[Jeffbigalls]

4 hours ago, Success said:

 

Diggs takes up a lot of attention - I have no doubt it helps those other guys.

 

If the Pats had the kind if injury situation we've had, we wouldn't be talking about them as a threat to the division.

 

They've been really lucky this year.

 

mcdaniels told zolak after the Cleveland win

Just wait you haven't seen anything yet

 

They lucked their way to 6-2

Yet they couldn't even beat bad teams last year lol, and here they are with 6 wins by an average of 12.5 points per win.

 

And well as bills fans say they only beat your team because of the officiating . 

 

I like the Patriots chances with the massive coaching advantage, and we will enjoy the cupcake schedule . 

4 minutes ago, Success said:

 

You're a Pats fan, I take it?

 

Whatchya doin' here?

 

Been here for 4 years

[50yrpatsfan]

7 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Maye will be a Trevor Lawrence type QB in the future. Jmo. Not top ten. Top fifteen maybe. Will need alot of support to win a SB. 

omg this is the worst take in the entire thread. Only a matter of time before you walk it back. The Patriots as a team are still a bit of a question mark. Maye isn't, already a top 4-8 talent and rising. In no way does he resemble Lawrence. His closest comps are Herbert and Allen. 

[SirAndrew]

10 hours ago, 90sBills said:

Vrable got the #1 seed with Tanahill. 

That’s the thing with the Pats. I’ve dismissed many who’ve treated AFC East opponents as threats during the Allen years. No one has been legitimate in years, but Vrabel changed all of that. We now have an excellent coach in our division.