Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[GottaRun]

39 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites.

So you ... can't see them losing to the Bills Dec 14th?  They look good but they are not world beaters this year.

[Ya Digg?]

They’re good, but they’re aren’t “effing good”

 

This isn’t to say they won’t win the division with that schedule (although I VERY HIGHLY doubt that) but they have some losses left on that schedule. They’re still a young team learning to win. Maye is going to make mistakes, their offensive weapons aren’t great, and up to this point they have been very lucky with regards to injuries. 
 

is this a bias opinion? Absolutely-but there’s also a lot of truth in there too 

[dave mcbride]

24 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

dont do that thing where the first time a team flashes they are suddenly never going to play down to the lesser versions of themselves 

The Browns D is for real—within the top three of the league. And they shredded them. I watched the game at a bar where the Pats game was on the next TV. 

[Walking Tall]

I bet they make a big trade for a WR before the deadline. They have a ton of cap space.

[Dr.Sack]

Pats have a much harder schedule Giants vs Eagles, Raiders vs Chiefs. I mean they are going to earn the AFCE. 

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

They’re good, but they’re aren’t “effing good”

 

This isn’t to say they won’t win the division with that schedule (although I VERY HIGHLY doubt that) but they have some losses left on that schedule. They’re still a young team learning to win. Maye is going to make mistakes, their offensive weapons aren’t great, and up to this point they have been very lucky with regards to injuries. 
 

is this a bias opinion? Absolutely-but there’s also a lot of truth in there too 

The problem is that the Bills have a much more difficult schedule. Sure, the Bills can beat them in December (although it’s going to be a toss-up), but that earlier loss at home to them is gonna weigh heavily, I fear.  

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I don't mind it.  The Brady era gave way so quickly to the Josh era and there hasn't been a proper division rivalry in the AFC East for years and years.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Browns D is for real—within the top three of the league. And they shredded them. I watched the game at a bar where the Pats game was on the next TV. 

some weeks Carolina beats the falcons by 30, sometimes we beat Carolina by 31 some weeks we do not beat the falcons 

 

they are a feisty young team playing well. They will sometimes be a feisty young team that flops. Thats all.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, Walking Tall said:

I bet they make a big trade for a WR before the deadline. They have a ton of cap space.

They have ridiculous cap space. The benefit of an elite qb on a rookie contract.

[Royale with Cheese]

We shot our selves in the foot multiple times in that game.  I also trust McDermott calling the defense than Babich.  McDermott needs to let him go after the season.

 

If he needs to call the defense, then Babich doesn’t serve a purpose.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

some weeks Carolina beats the falcons by 30, sometimes we beat Carolina by 31 some weeks we do not beat the falcons 

 

they are a feisty young team playing well. They will sometimes be a feisty young team that flops. Thats all.

They’re not going to go 15-2. That’s not my point. Looking at schedules, though, if I had to place money, I see them having a greater chance of winning the division. The Bills can obviously help themselves in December.

Edited 2 hours ago by dave mcbride

[Kirby Jackson]

Pats are much better than I expected. At the same time, they don’t scare me. If you can’t beat that team in a big game, you aren’t a Super Bowl contender.

[colin]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

We shot our selves in the foot multiple times in that game.  I also trust McDermott calling the defense than Babich.  McDermott needs to let him go after the season.

 

If he needs to call the defense, then Babich doesn’t serve a purpose.

Our d was decent that game, but gassed and fell off on the second half.  The o was a disaster 

 

The cheats got a gift from son of the coward hockulie and our o was mentally handicapped.  If we ran the same game vs the pats and dork azz ATL as we did against the Panthers we'd have no losses.

 

We aren't forcing passes outside anymore

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Pats are much better than I expected. At the same time, they don’t scare me. If you can’t beat that team in a big game, you aren’t a Super Bowl contender.

Throwing this out there: Vrabel was FURIOUS when the Titans GM traded AJ Brown. In the unlikely event that he gets traded, NE is by far and away the most likely destination, IMO.

[GaryPinC]

57 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

The Cleveland game showed they are very well coached, creative and aggressive.  They really did a number on the CLE defense.  That may be the difference for them against us this year.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by GaryPinC

[Success]

14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Browns D is for real—within the top three of the league. And they shredded them. I watched the game at a bar where the Pats game was on the next TV. 

 

That's great - but when the Browns offense can't stay on the field, and TOP is 13+ minutes in favor of the Pats, it tends to wear down even a good defense.

 

[Buffalo ill]

They're gonna cancel Christmas and stamp our meal cards "no dessert".

[Process]

Impossible to say they are "effin good." They've played two good teams all season. They lost to one, and it took 3 dumb turnovers, terrible officiating, and a few miraculous plays by Maye to beat the other by 3 points. We don't know what they are because they haven't played anyone and don't have a track record. 

 

I don't view them as contenders this year. I think they can be, very soon, but they need another off-season. 

[Mr. WEO]

45 minutes ago, Success said:

Call me in denial, but I'm a "jury is still out" guy.

 

I thought the Browns might give them their 1st tough test (I don't count the Hochuli game), but the Browns O was absolutely abysmal today, and lost the TOP battle badly, as well as the turnover battle.

 

They'll have a better record this year than they will next year.   

 

 

you thought the Browns were the team that was going to trip them up??  

 

the Browns Offense is abysmal EVERY day--3rd worst in the NFL--before today's game.  

[Jeffbigalls]

50 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen had some top notch coaching his first few years. They molded him into an offensive machine. Maye was a lot more polished coming out of college whereas Allen had to be broken down and reconstructed. Not to take away from McDaniels who is obviously a well respected coordinator who’s been around a long time, but Daboll is no slouch either. 

 

49 minutes ago, zow2 said:

When i looked at that game the Browns were leading 7-3, late second Qtr maybe 5 mins left? They just intercepted Maye and returned it inside the Pats 35.  and they didn’t score again?! Not sure what happened. 

Couldn't convert and then missed fg