At least we aren’t the Browns ……….

[The Jokeman]

54 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Carolina: Hold my beer.  They had the leading MVP candidate Baker Mayfield and Seattle's starting QB Sam Darnold on the same team & let both get away, just like Browns & Jets did with one of those guys.  Those 3 teams are where QBs go to be comatose, leave & suddenly wake up & thrive. 

 

Even when the Bills were bad, they didn't have good QBs come in, dump them & then watch these guys thrive elsewhere. When we dumped a QB, he never came back to haunt us, he was bad wherever he went.  These 3 teams get the right guys & stymie them until they leave.  The Jets have a horrible history with both young guys & vets. It goes back to Favre who sucked as a Jet & went on to Minnesota where he was great again, Geno who was nothing until Seattle, Darnold who is finally the QB that was envisioned in the 2018 draft, and even this year, dumping Rodgers, who is playing good in Pittsburgh and signing the incredibly bad Justin Fields. 

Well except that guy named Daryle Lamonica...

[JP51]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Well except that guy named Daryle Lamonica...

I was too young to remember but I heard my Dad and Uncle's bitc% about this for years as Dennis Shaw was throwing picks.... 

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

I mean honestly it was a brilliant move for the Bengals.  Flacco is a competent ball distributor when he has star players surrounding him.  It's when you ask him to start doing too much on his own that he struggles because he no longer has that in his bag anymore.

 

Bengals have weapons on offense on par with anyone in the league.

 

Also, what are the complaining about, DeShaun Watson is getting ready to return, I'm sure he will fix all their woes.

I am sure Deshaun can rub a few wins out of these guys... LOL  

[goldenboy81]

1 hour ago, BVBILLS said:

Josh should be picking apart good defenses like that. A 40-year-old had no trouble and was sacked once.

 

I wish Joe Cool was the back-up QB in Buffalo, he could teach Josh a lot. 

I think Allen would if he had just a Higgins

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

imo steelers pass rush is just fine

 

they're second in sacks and 4th in pressure rate

 

Bengals oline just played really well last night

True and I guess they just didn't look good at all last night.  Flacco got the ball out really quick too.  Steelers fans are complaining about Herbigs's snap counts last night.  He lead the league in pass rush win rate by ESPN's metrics so that was surprising.

[transplantbillsfan]

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

True and I guess they just didn't look good at all last night.  Flacco got the ball out really quick too.  Steelers fans are complaining about Herbigs's snap counts last night.  He lead the league in pass rush win rate by ESPN's metrics so that was surprising.

herbig is really underrated imo

 

for a not that well known edge guy he is a nuisance

 

and from hawaii 

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I was too young to remember but I heard my Dad and Uncle's bitc% about this for years as Dennis Shaw was throwing picks.... 

I am sure Deshaun can rub a few wins out of these guys... LOL  

 

Dillon and Shadeur better keep their shoes and socks on while he is around them in the QB room and the coaches leave.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

 

Both Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne are Hall of Famers.

So are Cris Carter and Randy Moss.

Isaac Bruce is a Hall of Famer and Tory Holt will be next.

Jerry Rice and John Taylor.  

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

Duper and Clayton? Rice and Taylor in 1989 both had over 1,000 yards in 16 games under the old rules. Heck, Jefferson and Addison come close right now.

[Another Fan]

It's understated how much Cleveland fans loved Nick Chubb and the team traded him away this past off season as well 

[Low Positive]

12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Dillon and Shadeur better keep their shoes and socks on while he is around them in the QB room and the coaches leave.

Did the Browns hire Rex Ryan without telling anyone?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Wow this board has a short memory...

17 years of no playoffs

Starting QBs that had not even looked at the playbook

Back to back 2-14 seasons

20 straight losses to the Dolphins

 

The Browns are a mess right now but just like the Bills for the 17 year drought, they have talent. During their terrible run they had one of the best LTs of all time playing for them. They now have a first ballot HOF DE. 

 

And yes the Bills may not have released a future great QB, but they let Lynch walk out the door and become a star in Seattle and win a championship. And let's not forget about future first ballot HOF Jason Peters getting traded away...

[T&C]

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Wow this board has a short memory...

17 years of no playoffs

Starting QBs that had not even looked at the playbook

Back to back 2-14 seasons

20 straight losses to the Dolphins

 

The Browns are a mess right now but just like the Bills for the 17 year drought, they have talent. During their terrible run they had one of the best LTs of all time playing for them. They now have a first ballot HOF DE. 

 

And yes the Bills may not have released a future great QB, but they let Lynch walk out the door and become a star in Seattle and win a championship. And let's not forget about future first ballot HOF Jason Peters getting traded away...

Lynch would have had 2 if Pete had just called a handoff to him instead of the cute pass that didn't end well.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

12 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

It's understated how much Cleveland fans loved Nick Chubb and the team traded him away this past off season as well 

He was broken

The radio guys in Cleveland sounded so sad this morning. Even before last night one of the players was quoted as saying he didnt know what the feeling of winning was like anymore. 

The despair of not having a capable QB is so overwhelming.

 

Odd thing is, Flacco sucks. He is a turnover waiting to happen. He just caught lightning in a bottle with great WRs and a terrible Steelers defense that he probably knows better than anyone in the league. He will probably throw 10 INTs in the next four games. 

[Matt_In_NH]

I mean they are total trash, how does the Bengals having Flacco actually hurt the Browns?  Does someone think they were going to go on a heater and win the division or something?  Flacco only helps temporarily too.....if I was a Browns fan I think I would be good with the 5th round pick at this moment

[MikePJ76]

We were until like five minutes ago.  
 

if they are not careful they will be again.

[Big Turk]

The way this board sounds right now, we might as well be the Jets. 

 

Honestly, people need to get their heads out of their asses around here.  That's what a large percentage of posters on this board should have been focused on during the bye week.

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Both Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne are Hall of Famers.

So are Cris Carter and Randy Moss.

Isaac Bruce is a Hall of Famer and Tory Holt will be next.

Jerry Rice and John Taylor.  

 

The Mark's brothers? Duper and Clayton?

 

James Lofton and Andre Reed are both HOF members.

Edited yesterday at 07:46 PM by Big Turk

[stuvian]

the Browns signaled tank when they traded Flacco

[Big Turk]

Just now, stuvian said:

the Browns signaled tank when they traded Flacco

 

How? He was terrible with them. He likely will be terrible with the Bengals after a few games also.

Edited yesterday at 07:48 PM by Big Turk

[transient]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Both Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne are Hall of Famers.

So are Cris Carter and Randy Moss.

Isaac Bruce is a Hall of Famer and Tory Holt will be next.

Jerry Rice and John Taylor.  

There's also the currently injured domestic abuser and that penguin guy down in Phishville.