10/13/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Falcons MNF Gameday Thread

[oldmanfan]

4 hours ago, BearNorth said:

No stupid plays like screwing up the handoff to a tight end who hasn't had a running play since his rookie year.

Couldn’t agree more

[HIT BY SPIKES]

3 hours ago, stevewin said:

I have Falcons around my yard.  I've seen them swoop down and pick up snakes and critters.  Every once in a while I'll be in the back yard and one will be in a tree, or come swooping in and land on a tree and stare at me and it feaks me out.

 

That being said - a Buffalo tramples a Falcon no contest.  Esp with a helmet and visor so it can't eat your face off.  GO BILLS

 

Good point.

 

The Falcon does have to land on the ground for the Buffalo to tramp it right?

 

Or is this one of those Buffalo Wild Wing Buffalos that have wings?

 

 

[stevewin]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Would be curious to know how many zero penalty games the Pats had during their 20 year run.

I always wanted someone to do an analysis of how many game-altering PI calls they benefitted from.  It's just an unbelievable advantage to be able to just chuck the ball up at a critical point in the game and get either the phantom PI call - or the one that probably wouldn't be called for the majority of other teams.

 

This AM on Get Up Rex was comparing the frustration the Lions must have felt at the end of the game last night with no penalties called on KC, with playing NE in the old days.  With Bruschi sitting there he said this: "When it starts going bad you feel it. Trust me I felt it on the sideline when we'd play the Patriots and you'd be looking like 'oh now you're gonna throw a flag cause when the games on the line they <usually> never throw that dang flag'  Like sometimes you'd literally feel it"

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Couldn’t agree more

I've gone back and watched the play a bunch of times from both the sideline and endzone angles. If that had gone off, it was going to go for a big gain. I'm sure they worked on that in practice and just flubbed it on gameday. Knox was there a split second too early and was ever so slightly past Josh when he turned to hand him the ball. But in general, I don't want them to stop trying to run creative plays just because that one didn't work. 

 

Here's the handoff moment:

[IBTG81]

Any chance Poyer starts tonight? I’d really rather see him out there than Rapp. I don’t think we lose speed and we gain a ton of intelligence. 

[JustHewIt]

2 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Have we decided how badly we're going to lose yet? 

 

I don't want to miss out on the preemptive panicking and doomerism.

 

Oh no youre just in time, I just read someone call our offense "Jauron style"

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I always wanted someone to do an analysis of how many game-altering PI calls they benefitted from.  It's just an unbelievable advantage to be able to just chuck the ball up at a critical point in the game and get either the phantom PI call - or the one that probably wouldn't be called for the majority of other teams.

 

This AM on Get Up Rex was comparing the frustration the Lions must have felt at the end of the game last night with no penalties called on KC, with playing NE in the old days.  With Bruschi sitting there he said this: "When it starts going bad you feel it. Trust me I felt it on the sideline when we'd play the Patriots and you'd be looking like 'oh now you're gonna throw a flag cause when the games on the line they <usually> never throw that dang flag'  Like sometimes you'd literally feel it"

I hate the PI call the most. The Pats. would have WRs run comeback routes. Brady would purposely underthrow the ball. The WR would be coached to just stop and let the DB come through the back of him. Boom, automatic DPI. Brady took that crap to Tampa. Remember losing a game in OT in Tampa to this BS in 2021?

[JustHewIt]

1 hour ago, finn said:

But I expected him to try something new when other teams shut down the run. 

 

We got shut down, yet still somehow out-gained the Pats, rushed for over 100 yards, had more first downs, and better third down efficiency, even after turning it over 3 times. Curious.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

22 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I've gone back and watched the play a bunch of times from both the sideline and endzone angles. If that had gone off, it was going to go for a big gain. I'm sure they worked on that in practice and just flubbed it on gameday. Knox was there a split second too early and was ever so slightly past Josh when he turned to hand him the ball. But in general, I don't want them to stop trying to run creative plays just because that one didn't work. 

 

Here's the handoff moment:

Execution is the problem not the play calling. Look at 51. He is half way to Orchard Park HS in that Pic. 14 is leaning the wrong way too.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Execution is the problem not the play calling. Look at 51. He is half way to Orchard Park HS in that Pic. 14 is leaning the wrong way too.

They play was designed to be a sneaky inside handoff with a fake to Cook going the other way. The Pats defense fell for the fake. It would have worked.

[Steptide]

3 hours ago, Realist said:

That's what this offense reminds me of, the conservative Jauron offense. Just because we have a QB capable of running it now, doesn't mean it's the correct one. This offense is capable of so much more, but I think Brady is holding it back.

A few people have thrown the theory around that maybe they're saving their best for playoffs. Let's hope that's 2hat it is. If not, I dunno, my confidence isn't that high for this team getting to the superbowl 

[billsfan714]

I just hope we can hold Bijan to under 150.

[Mark Vader]

18 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I hate the PI call the most. The Pats. would have WRs run comeback routes. Brady would purposely underthrow the ball. The WR would be coached to just stop and let the DB come through the back of him. Boom, automatic DPI. Brady took that crap to Tampa. Remember losing a game in OT in Tampa to this BS in 2021?

Why are you drudging up memories that we want to forget?

[CSBill]

6 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

 

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO OUR CANADIAN BILLS BRETHREN!!!!

 

 

Today is Thanksgiving in our still great country.

 

What does Canada have to be thankful for? 🤣

 

Just kidding. But seriously?

 

Happy TG north of the boarder. Enjoy the day topped off with a Bills win. Then you can truly be Thankful. 😜

[Comebackkid]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

You don’t think he gets his pick of HC jobs next year?

 

People forget how long a season really is, with all the ups and downs. And we’ll overreact each and every week. If he gets a HC job next year, we probably did something special so I can live with that. 

What worries me most is if he did by some odd chance they would probably have competition between the ball boy and towel boy as

to whom might succeed him.  

1 minute ago, billsfan714 said:

I just hope we can hold Bijan to under 150.

miles or yards?  

[Low Positive]

3 hours ago, Realist said:

That's what this offense reminds me of, the conservative Jauron offense. Just because we have a QB capable of running it now, doesn't mean it's the correct one. This offense is capable of so much more, but I think Brady is holding it back.

There are multiple plays a game when it is clear that Brady is calling a downfield passing play. You can tell by the personnel they come out in. For example, if they come out in 11 personnel with three WRs and Kincaid it's most likely a deep shot is the first play that is called in the huddle. But Josh Allen will audible into the second play, which is often a run or a screen, when he sees cover 2. Or, when they do run the downfield passing plays, he'll take the checkdown when guys don't get open because teams are playing with 7 guys in coverage. Do you want him to go back to forcing balls downfield and throwing picks? He forced a ball to Shakir against the Pats that got picked that probably cost us the game. We begged him for years to "take what the defense is giving him." Now that he does that, everyone wants him to push the ball downfield, defensive coverages be damned. We just want what we don't have.  

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

There are multiple plays a game when it is clear that Brady is calling a downfield passing play. You can tell by the personnel they come out in. For example, if they come out in 11 personnel with three WRs and Kincaid it's most likely a deep shot is the first play that is called in the huddle. But Josh Allen will audible into the second play, which is often a run or a screen, when he sees cover 2. Or, when they do run the downfield passing plays, he'll take the checkdown when guys don't get open because teams are playing with 7 guys in coverage. Do you want him to go back to forcing balls downfield and throwing picks? He forced a ball to Shakir against the Pats that got picked that probably cost us the game. We begged him for years to "take what the defense is giving him." Now that he does that, everyone wants him to push the ball downfield, defensive coverages be damned. We just want what we don't have.  

It's a fine line to straddle.  No one wants forced throws/picks, but is it possible the pendulum has swung a little too far towards conservative? Smart aggressiveness is what I would like to see.  

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

It's a fine line to straddle.  No one wants forced throws/picks, but is it possible the pendulum has swung a little too far towards conservative? Smart aggressiveness is what I would like to see.  

Then Josh needs to start taking more risks with the football. We like to assume everything good that happens is because Josh is great and everyting bad that happens is because Brady sucks. Brady is calling the downfield shots, but Josh keeps audibling into runs or taking checkdowns. That might be because of the WRs, but he also is a lot more risk-averse than he was when Daboll and Dorsey were OC. That could be coaching, but I also think he got tired of throwing 16-18 INTs a year. Remember when he was a turnover machine who suffered from "arm arrogance?"

[Boatdrinks]

22 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

They play was designed to be a sneaky inside handoff with a fake to Cook going the other way. The Pats defense fell for the fake. It would have worked.

I’ve come around to the idea that the play was a creative design, just executed poorly. Poor execution and penalties were the Bills undoing last Sunday night. 

[GASabresIUFan]

Didn’t realize Cole Bishop grew up in Fayetteville GA, about 45 min south of the Atl.  How does a good GA boy end up playing college ball in Utah?  
 

Anyway,  welcome home Cole.