Sojourner Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Fleezoid said: What if there's only enough food for one person. I'd be pretty pissed if I had to split a 12 oz steak with 5 other people. The point in question is whether you could eat the 12oz steak yourself. There isn’t a dominant guy for Josh to throw the ball to. Quote
BigPappy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The everyone eats mentality is not the problem. At least, not when it comes to the loss to the Patriots. They (The Bills) got caught in the "Trap Game", looking past the Patriots to either the Falcons or the bye week. McD usually has not fallen victim to the trap game, and typically keeps the team focused. That obviously did not happen this past week. The mental mistakes and miscues were so far beyond ridiculous that it was to the point of sillyness. That first fumble clearly shows that the offense was so totally out of sync and that thier timing was way off. Later on in the game, when they ran that play again, it almost happened again where the ball was going to get knocked out of Josh's hands, but luckly he was ablt to adjust. Whatever the issues are with the offense, I am certain they will get them worked out. The defense on the other hand.... they are just playing awful at this point. Tre is getting absolutely smoked on nearly every play and needs to be benched. There are so many injuries on defense (like every other year) they haven't been able to field their primary defensive players all at the same time. I know that all teams deal with injuries. But, it seems like this team deals with way more than the average, and they always seem to be primarily on the defensive side of the ball. Quote
Sweats Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Sojourner said: The point in question is whether you could eat the 12oz steak yourself. There isn’t a dominant guy for Josh to throw the ball to. We should have bit the bullet, moved up in the draft and gotten Justin Jefferson........but alas, our FO figured Diggs was worth trading our 1st for instead. I mean, give me JJ all day long, but what do i know....... Quote
GoBills808 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, BigPappy said: The everyone eats mentality is not the problem. At least, not when it comes to the loss to the Patriots. They (The Bills) got caught in the "Trap Game", looking past the Patriots to either the Falcons or the bye week. McD usually has not fallen victim to the trap game, and typically keeps the team focused. That obviously did not happen this past week. The mental mistakes and miscues were so far beyond ridiculous that it was to the point of sillyness. That first fumble clearly shows that the offense was so totally out of sync and that thier timing was way off. Later on in the game, when they ran that play again, it almost happened again where the ball was going to get knocked out of Josh's hands, but luckly he was ablt to adjust. Whatever the issues are with the offense, I am certain they will get them worked out. The defense on the other hand.... they are just playing awful at this point. Tre is getting absolutely smoked on nearly every play and needs to be benched. There are so many injuries on defense (like every other year) they haven't been able to field their primary defensive players all at the same time. I know that all teams deal with injuries. But, it seems like this team deals with way more than the average, and they always seem to be primarily on the defensive side of the ball. wait are you serious? a 2-3 game lull that costs us vs inferior opponents...this literally happens every yr Quote
Sweats Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BigPappy said: The everyone eats mentality is not the problem. At least, not when it comes to the loss to the Patriots. They (The Bills) got caught in the "Trap Game", looking past the Patriots to either the Falcons or the bye week. McD usually has not fallen victim to the trap game, and typically keeps the team focused. That obviously did not happen this past week. The mental mistakes and miscues were so far beyond ridiculous that it was to the point of sillyness. That first fumble clearly shows that the offense was so totally out of sync and that thier timing was way off. Later on in the game, when they ran that play again, it almost happened again where the ball was going to get knocked out of Josh's hands, but luckly he was ablt to adjust. Whatever the issues are with the offense, I am certain they will get them worked out. The defense on the other hand.... they are just playing awful at this point. Tre is getting absolutely smoked on nearly every play and needs to be benched. There are so many injuries on defense (like every other year) they haven't been able to field their primary defensive players all at the same time. I know that all teams deal with injuries. But, it seems like this team deals with way more than the average, and they always seem to be primarily on the defensive side of the ball. If the D would start tackling players instead of the turf, we'd probably see better production and have a healthier squad. 1 Quote
BigPappy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: wait are you serious? a 2-3 game lull that costs us vs inferior opponents...this literally happens every yr Just because you lose to an "inferior" opponet, that does not automatically define it as a trap game. Neither team played well most of the game. Drake Maye made some outstanding plays in the fourth quarter but overall, his play was maybe only slightly above average. Yet, the Bills lost. They lost because they were unfocused, sloppy, and had multiple turnovers and penalties. They phoned in their game, plain and simple. THAT is what made this a trap game. You can play an "inferior" team and play well, yet still lose. If that so called inferior team plays at a higher level than they have in the past weeks. That is just part of the game. Any given Sunday as they say. Had both teams played well and the Bills still lost, that isn't a trap game. That is just getting out played and getting beat. Edited 2 hours ago by BigPappy Quote
NewEra Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago We’re 4-0 and everything is great. We turn the ball 3 times after scoring 30+ in every game and the pitch forks are out- revamp everything or we have no chance. Week 6 is approaching. Everybody should eat on this team with Cook and Kincaid being the focal points of the pass game. I think (and certainly hope) that this will be the case come playoff time if they are healthy. But everyone will continue to eat and I’m good with that Quote
zow2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, BigPappy said: The everyone eats mentality is not the problem. At least, not when it comes to the loss to the Patriots. They (The Bills) got caught in the "Trap Game", looking past the Patriots to either the Falcons or the bye week. McD usually has not fallen victim to the trap game, and typically keeps the team focused. That obviously did not happen this past week. The mental mistakes and miscues were so far beyond ridiculous that it was to the point of sillyness. I do not buy the trap game angle,,, as they had their "trap game" scares when they were huge favorites over Miami and NO and both games were tied or barely ahead in the 4th Qtr. Like every recent season, I think the Bills fall victim to their regular season "greatness" and how Vegas and media anoint them as SB favorites. The players since week 1 feel like no matter how iffy the game is going, they will pull it out at the end...because they are the Buffalo Bills. Well guess what, when the opponent wants the game more than you? a comeback is not always going to happen. McDermott does a nice job trying to keep the guys humble and hungry but it's human nature as a player to think your team is awesome and nothing bad will happen. They forgot about attention to detail in the NE game, and how hard they need to outwork the opponent. Simple as that. Quote
corta765 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Our Strategy was to take away Maye's #1 option in Hunter Henry and stop the run. They did that pretty well. Unfortunately, that opened things up for Diggs. As a fan, that was the worst possible outcome. It also was the first time since Brady was here a QB made some legit great plays in division where you had to tip your cap. Don't like that he is on the Pats as it will be an obstacle down the road, but respect Maye a ton and like how the kid plays. Tua I never was bothered by because you could see he was the sum of the parts and while he can be very good he has limitations. It is obviously still early with Maye, but he showed the stuff that makes a QB a long term answer for a team. 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: So our offense that before Sunday had an NFL record for consecutive games not losing the turnover battle, Josh was at 33 TD's - 2 Turnovers in his previous 13 games, we were the highest scoring team in the AFC since "Everybody Eats" became a thing, scored more total points than any team in the NFL last year, including KC and PHI who each played one more game than us with the SB and after we sat the offense in week 17, and we saw our QB, Shakir, etc also set individual records in that span as well, including winning Josh his first MVP who personally set several records in that span. But we are out here complaining about an offense that has been the highest scoring offense in Bills history, the AFC this year, the AFC regular season last year, the AFC post season last year - instead of a defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down, that gave up 32 points in the AFCCG to a team that didn't break 30 the entire season outside that one game and was down 31-0 at one point the following week after hanging 32 on us, and a defense that has given up 35 PPG to the chiefs in our 4 playoff losses to them? I don't know what this Bills syndrome is called where people don't like scoring unless we score the way they want to score, but its wild to me. Meanwhile, our D is having issues right now and not playing well enough to make up for the rare instance when Allen and the offense struggle like they did when they made us lose the turnover over battle for the first time in like a season and a half 3-1 aganst the Pats. Not exactly a surpirse to lose a game when you lose the turnover battle 3-1. And yet, all our D had to do was not allow a game winning FG drive against a 2nd year QB on a less talented roster - but our injury riddled D failed to hold once again and between that and the self inflicted errors by 2 fumbles and a bad throw INT, we lost by 3. I agree but my concern is that the defensive coordinators of the better defenses have an answer for the methodical, run/short pass heavy offense and we're going to struggle against those teams going forward. Quote
Augie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 47 minutes ago, Sweats said: We should have bit the bullet, moved up in the draft and gotten Justin Jefferson........but alas, our FO figured Diggs was worth trading our 1st for instead. I mean, give me JJ all day long, but what do i know....... Yes, hindsight is very helpful that way. Nobody knew just what Jefferson would become, so it’s not really that easy. Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago This Wr group must be full, because ain't nobody eating. It's more like everybody snacks Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, QCity said: I never said he was. Then why does it matter if he out snaps Kincaid? Quote
Sweats Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Augie said: Yes, hindsight is very helpful that way. Nobody knew just what Jefferson would become, so it’s not really that easy. It's true that no one could have known what JJ would become, but it was clear that anyone who followed him at LSU, knew what he could become. In 2 years at LSU, 2,415 yards with an average of 14.6 and 24 TDs. There was a lot of potential just sitting there waiting for us to make a move for him and we went with Diggs.........UGH. I see it as just one more blown opportunity that could have put this team over the hump. Quote
GolfandBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: “Everyone eats” is also about salary allocation. They can’t pay a superstar free agent WR at the current WR rate. Our best hope is to hit a home run in the draft at WR— which we could have done had we drafted McConkey instead of Coleman (but that’s another debate). Lots of other teams pay high priced WRs and have a highly paid franchise QB. That’s a cop out Edited 1 hour ago by GolfandBills Quote
Augie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: It's true that no one could have known what JJ would become, but it was clear that anyone who followed him at LSU, knew what he could become. In 2 years at LSU, 2,415 yards with an average of 14.6 and 24 TDs. There was a lot of potential just sitting there waiting for us to make a move for him and we went with Diggs.........UGH. I see it as just one more blown opportunity that could have put this team over the hump. He of course projected highly, but it’s hard to tell based on the NFL talent surrounding him what would happen at the next level. Would he be good, or great? There is no sure thing in the draft, and it’s no lock that the high flying circus would continue without the surrounding cast. Context is important, he was not just a one man show. “What made the 2019 LSU offense so special? Joe Brady turned the LSU offense into a heavy pass machine that no one could stop. That season LSU's new high-powered offense averaged 48.4 points per game, scored 40 points in 12 of their 15 games, while breaking every record. Joe Burrow had very good weapons at wide receiver named Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase.Apr 4, 2025” Quote
Low Positive Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Sweats said: It's true that no one could have known what JJ would become, but it was clear that anyone who followed him at LSU, knew what he could become. In 2 years at LSU, 2,415 yards with an average of 14.6 and 24 TDs. There was a lot of potential just sitting there waiting for us to make a move for him and we went with Diggs.........UGH. I see it as just one more blown opportunity that could have put this team over the hump. Tell that to the great Howie Roseman. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 26 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I agree but my concern is that the defensive coordinators of the better defenses have an answer for the methodical, run/short pass heavy offense and we're going to struggle against those teams going forward. What we saw Sunday, is that you can just man up on those WRs and focus on everything else. Josh had the most time of any game this year to throw but guys couldn’t get open. The Pats have good corners but so do a lot of teams. How often are the Bills WRs better than their opponents DBs? Lol, that might only happen during practice 🤣🤣 1 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, Sweats said: It's true that no one could have known what JJ would become, but it was clear that anyone who followed him at LSU, knew what he could become. In 2 years at LSU, 2,415 yards with an average of 14.6 and 24 TDs. There was a lot of potential just sitting there waiting for us to make a move for him and we went with Diggs.........UGH. I see it as just one more blown opportunity that could have put this team over the hump. In 2019 they moved Jefferson into the slot where he exploded. The scouting report on him had concerns about whether he could win outside. Quote
Steptide Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago I don't care how good our current are, or become, I will always say we need a true number 1. Quote
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