Keon WTF?

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Every team has a guy(s) that a portion of the fan base WAY overrates. The Eagles fans overrate Hurts (who is good), some Miami fans with Tua (who isn’t good) and we have Keon truthers. Since the draft they’ve hoped/believed that he would be something that he isn’t. That’s not fair to him. He was never going to be “the guy.” He has too many holes for that. He’s a role player and the 4th option on a good offense. 

Could have fooled me. I’ve read nothing but disregard of hope on the kid lol

[Sweats]

I think Keon will be okay, but i've got this nagging thought in the back of my head that i wonder what our O would have looked like with Worthy on the roster.......it eats away at me, night and day.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

I think Keon will be okay, but i've got this nagging thought in the back of my head that i wonder what our O would have looked like with Worthy on the roster.......it eats away at me, night and day.

Or Golden. Or Bond 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Roundybout

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

39 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I would say Allen cost the Bills 3 points, I don't think you can say he gave the Pats 7 points. The defense still had to do its part to let the Pats have a 90 yard TD drive after his pick.

 

Fair,  But my point in responding to this was to say this whole thread is crazy.  The Bills didn't come close to losing yesterday because of Coleman.  They lost because a number of things and from everything I've read, if anything more were central to Allen at least on the offensive side.

[Simon]

25 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Or Golden. Or Bond 

 

 

 

 

Probably slept in and showed up late for a practice or some other dumb ***** a 22yr old would do.

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Probably slept in and showed up late for a practice or some other dumb ***** a 22yr old would do.

regardless that's a big about face on him from what bills were selling preseason

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

regardless that's a big about face on him from what bills were selling preseason

 

He clearly worked hard in the offseason and I'm not going to suddenly assume that's not the case because Coach sat him for a single series midseason.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

He clearly worked hard in the offseason and I'm not going to suddenly assume that's not the case because Coach sat him for a single series midseason.

Where's the evidence? He looks like exactly the same player to me

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Where's the evidence? He looks like exactly the same player to me

 

His footwork is better, his routes are absolutely sharper, his timing with Allen is better, etc. Those are things that don't just magically happen.

The coaches are clearly seeing it also because Keon's snap counts have been significantly higher than every single offensive skill position player on the entire team this year.

[CNYfan]

Coleman had a bad game.

I really dislike the idea that JA can just throw a lob his way while he is draped with coverage and that is a good play call.

I don't like those plays.  

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

His footwork is better, his routes are absolutely sharper, his timing with Allen is better, etc. Those are things that don't just magically happen.

The coaches are clearly seeing it also because Keon's snap counts have been significantly higher than every single offensive skill position player on the entire team this year.

Yeah like I said I'm not seeing it

 

Releases are still slow, routes still sloppy, and still doesn't understand leverage

 

If everyone didn't say how good a kid he is I'd call what he's doing out there half hearted

 

He put some bad tape out there yesterday but the first 4 games weren't great either imo

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Sojourner said:

Could have fooled me. I’ve read nothing but disregard of hope on the kid lol

Seriously?!? 🤣🤣 He is probably the 2nd most popular jersey in the stadium every week. Cook is who people wanted Keon to be. He’s the best skill player Josh plays with, followed by Kincaid and then Shakir. 
 

It’s not disregard of hope. He’s just not very good. He’s a guy. We wanted him to be a number 1. He’s a role player, like Gabe Davis with a different skillset. 
 

Edited 40 minutes ago by Kirby Jackson

[yall]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Or Golden. Or Bond 

 

 

 

Probably late on game day. 

 

Interestingly same thing happened to Gabe Davis against Green Bay a few years ago IIRC.

[thenorthremembers]

I do see some progression in Keon's game.  Despite the fumble yesterday his hands do seem to be better compared to last year.   That said, I still think he is an underwhelming option at #1 or #2 in an NFL offense.   He still lacks concentration at times, still doesnt appear to have mastered an NFL route tree, and leaves a lot to be desired getting off press man.    The Bills didnt have the luxury of taking a project at WR that high in the draft. 

[BillsFanForever19]

11 hours ago, Pete said:

Your weak fumble inside our 10 yard line gifted the Pats a victory.  You went back to playing patty cakes instead of using your God given size and leaping power.  This was the worst game of your career.   Worse than getting a football bounced off the side of your head.  WTF Keon?  

 

To focus on Coleman and only Coleman for the loss and obsess over a fumble that cost us 3 out of 23 points in the 1st Quarter of a 4 Quarter terrible game is absolutely, positively absurd. 

 

Coleman jumped up and caught a 50/50 ball to sustain a drive to keep us alive. Coleman caught a TD to make up for it. Would have likely had another 50/50 TD in the back of the end zone had Josh not overthrown the ball. 

 

There's so, so, so many players to blame for the loss. Feels like you want to blame Coleman for the loss bc you don't like him as a player and you don't want to call out other players you do like. Keon's not near the top of the list of people that should be blamed today.

[billsfan_34]

9 hours ago, Since1981 said:

Worthy. Harrison.
Could have used legit WR1, CB2 yesterday 😮

CB is Hairston, for the love of God, this guy has been out since early training camp. Going on 3 months.

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

To focus on Coleman and only Coleman for the loss and obsess over a fumble that cost us 3 out of 23 points in the 1st Quarter of a 4 Quarter terrible game is absolutely, positively absurd. 

 

Coleman jumped up and caught a 50/50 ball to sustain a drive to keep us alive. Coleman caught a TD to make up for it. Would have likely had another 50/50 TD in the back of the end zone had Josh not overthrown the ball. 

 

There's so, so, so many players to blame for the loss. Feels like you want to blame Coleman for the loss bc you don't like him as a player and you don't want to call out other players you do like. Keon's not near the top of the list of people that should be blamed today.

I agree.  At most Coleman was just a part of a death by a thousand strokes type of loss.  To many Bills players brought their C game yesterday and the cumulative effect was a close loss. But to pin the loss on Coleman is silly.

 

[Breakout Squad]

40 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Coleman had a bad game.

I really dislike the idea that JA can just throw a lob his way while he is draped with coverage and that is a good play call.

I don't like those plays.  

No one does. Stupid play. 

[SirAndrew]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Every team has a guy(s) that a portion of the fan base WAY overrates. The Eagles fans overrate Hurts (who is good), some Miami fans with Tua (who isn’t good) and we have Keon truthers. Since the draft they’ve hoped/believed that he would be something that he isn’t. That’s not fair to him. He was never going to be “the guy.” He has too many holes for that. He’s a role player and the 4th option on a good offense. 

I agree, but it’s not insane that people see him as something more than a role player. The team themselves seemed to have greater expectations. I’m not behind the scenes at OBD, but Coleman is utilized in a different capacity than most role players. I can see why people think he has greater potential, even if I don’t agree. 

[zow2]

41 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Coleman had a bad game.

I really dislike the idea that JA can just throw a lob his way while he is draped with coverage and that is a good play call.

I don't like those plays.  

 

It used to be the norm not in the too distant past. But nowadays, turnovers = losses.  So the 50/50 pass is going the way of the dodo bird.  Why risk an INT.