For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[PayDaBill$]

Need to make a move for at least 1 wr that can create space.  We ran plenty of play action last night and had time but no one could get open.  Maybe Brady screwed the pooch, TE ‘s were making catches,  so maybe he should have gone there more and maybe toss a few to the RB out of the backfield until the shorter and mid game stuff dried up, NE’s tougher against the run.

 

The defense did get some pressure on Drake but our secondary was getting roasted especially Tre. Milano is done, LB is another big weakness.  
 

I worry more about roster makeup than I do about McClappy coaching. It’s criminal we don’t have a legit wr1 for Josh and for all the manpower we supposedly threw at the defense we have the same old issues.  Has BB been making the wisest moves?

Edited 1 hour ago by PayDaBill$

[Billever76]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

You don’t need to hire an unemployed coach.

 

There’s lots of promising OC’s or DC’s that would jump at a chance to be the Bills HC.

 

Honestly, I’d probably promote Brady, and try to hire the hottest DC in the league. Maybe Brian Flores would be interested. 
 

I’d be willing to take Bill Belichick and roll the dice he can make this defense special for a year or two.

 

Or I’d hire the next Shanny Disciple and give Josh a consistent offensive system for the next 5-6 years.

 

So many good options outside of letting McD and Beane try to turn Josh into Cam 2.0 and waste his prime.

Brady!? Lmao dude is as Mid as McDermott 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Billever76 said:

Brady!? Lmao dude is as Mid as McDermott 

 

The offense is (usually) humming and just fine. It's the defense that needs the change and that aint happening while McD is here.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I was banging the table for Vrabel back when he was available.

 

Jim Harbaugh should have been considered.

 

Plenty of folks here were talking about Sean Payton when he was available.

 

I'm not as big on the Belichick idea but any change is better than running into the same damn wall of being flat and unprepared for big games.

 

People can try to blame individual players for all the mistakes, and some of it is on them, but there is a big issue with "fundamentals" that is plaguing this team.

 

The fundamentals of basic open field tackling.

The fundamentals of lining up correctly (across multiple phases. we got one on Special Teams right after we got on on Offense)

The fundamentals of coverage and turning around for the ball because you are going to get flagged every time with your back to the ball.

 

The Pats have a Championship caliber coach who coached up his Wild Card talent team

The Bills have a Wild Card caliber coach whose Championship caliber team played down to their opponent.

 

I'm done excusing it.

 

Sure, we're still 4-1. Still lead the division. Will still likely win the division. Yay. Cant wait to be bitterly disappointed in the playoffs as I watch this jabroni clap his way through wasting Josh's career.

We are executing McBeane’s ultimate vision, castrate our offense and make Josh Allen diminish himself to prop up a defense determined to make other QBs look like Josh Allen.

 

Who has faith this team can win a shoot out vs KC in the playoffs? Who has faith this team can win a defensive battle vs KC in the playoffs?

 

McD can lose to a superior coach when he has a MASSIVE QB advantage. How is he gonna fare against Mahomes?

 

I am despondent. The worst realities have been realized. Fire McBeane into the sun. 

[Billever76]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The offense is (usually) humming and just fine. It's the defense that needs the change and that aint happening while McD is here.

The offense is humming bc of the best qb in football…Brady telegraphs run and pass plays horribly,his play calls lack a vertical and deep middle game….nah Brady is what McDermott is…a product of Josh Allen…if it wasn’t for having a generational talent at QB none of this coaching staff would be known anywhere 

[AZSanta]

1 hour ago, Italian Bills said:

After many many threads in the last few years about McD, it’s very clear that the 90% of us wish a change. 
 

I wish a change too and my first reason is beyond schemes or poor game decisions made, or games approach… those are obviously very valid points, many times McD failed in all of them, most of the times in crucial game moments…  but to me another big one is because that veteran players need a new voice, new challenges… to be looking for new motivation. 
 

The new coach should have a strong personality, should be tough and assertive… someone like McVay, Gruden, Siriani. 
 

Unfortunately i know that this won’t happen anytime soon…. i’m just disappointed and angry at the same time because we are wasting our Josh Allen’s era. 

The only way he gets fired is if Allen himself says something. The likelihood of that happened is nil. 

[dorquemada]

8 hours ago, SCBills said:

I want to know who is more to blame for the CONSTANT recurring issues this team has year to year that ultimately holds us back. 
 

-Lack of pass rush

 

-Lack of outside WR talent

 

-Injury issues plaguing the Defense

 

Those two issues constantly hold us back and every year they’re not fixed. 
 

So who is responsible for the asset allocation?  Is Beane drafting to his coaches who want to be a heavy run team with WR’s who can block and a Defense that has penetrating smaller players?

 

Or is it both of them?  This team has serious holes right now due to the Hairston injury, years of misses on the DL and absolute disinterest in truly addressing the WR room. 
 

As currently constructed, this team has very serious flaws.  They’ve been visible since Week 1 and due to an easy schedule start, were masked until tonight. 
 

McDermott doesn’t seem like he can get us across the line but Beane also has very serious blind spots/weaknesses that continue to hurt this team … but is he drafting to what McDermott and his coaches want?

 

That we keep doubling down on the same strategies and expecting them to turn out different is incredibly frustrating.

[nuklz2594]

Jim Schwartz browns dc

[BuffaloBillyG]

8 hours ago, Draconator said:

This is an honest question. If the Bills fire McDermott? Who would you hire to get the Bills over the hump and into the Superbowl? Not any coach currently coaching another team college or pro. Those coaches who are unemployed, who would you hire?

Doesn't matter who. The minute a new coach doesn't run the team exactly how they would have or, heaven forbid, loses a game....they would be calling to fire that coach anyway.

[BuffaloRebound]

1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

Brady!? Lmao dude is as Mid as McDermott 

Agreed.  People here seem to be under-estimating how prime a job this is with an all world QB.  

 

1. McVay… only way he says no to coaching Josh is because he has young family and doesn't wanna up-root them.  

2. Shanahan… his style fits Buffalo.  Give him a QB like Josh to work with and it’s hard to see that not producing a Super Bowl.  

3.  Spagnolo… his defenses win Super Bowls.  You’d still be able to find a premier OC to work with Josh.  

[zow2]

I've been saying since NE hired him that Vrabel is the one coach who scares the sh*t out of me.  Always has.  But since he's taken I don't have an answer.

[Gregg]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Doesn't matter who. The minute a new coach doesn't run the team exactly how they would have or, heaven forbid, loses a game....they would be calling to fire that coach anyway.

 

McDermott is in his 9th season so it's not like he hasn't been given a chance. I am not going to panic over one loss as the Bills were never going 17-0 but if the team falls short in the playoff again then it is fair to question if McDermott and Beane can get this team a championship. 

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The offense is (usually) humming and just fine. It's the defense that needs the change and that aint happening while McD is here.

 

The offense is humming without any true #1 WR or investment in skill position players. Besides the O-Line, Cook, and Allen, Brady doesn't have a whole lot to work with right now.

 

McD and the defense is flailing despite years of high investment. It's inexcusable. Our 2nd and 3rd round defensive picks aren't doing anything. The scheme doesn't help or hide the warts. If we don't get pressure every single play with 4 it's just an easy completion.  There wasn't anyone within 3 yards of Diggs all night, and a lot of that is the stupid scheme. 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Doesn't matter who. The minute a new coach doesn't run the team exactly how they would have or, heaven forbid, loses a game....they would be calling to fire that coach anyway.

 

McDermott has had 8 years, and 6 years of "good" Josh. Any new coach would get 3 years before the pitchforks come out.That would take us to Josh's 11th year in the league...

 

tick tick tick tick tick tick tick....

[Chaos]

I never heard of Sean Mcvay or Sean McDermott or Nick Siriani before they were hired. I want to hire the next Sean McVay who goes on to win Super Bowls with Bills. I am hopeful the Bills management has a deeper knowledge base of coaches than I do. 

[Since1981]

Sometimes change is just needed. No different in any part of life. If a McD loss in the “usual fashion” in playoff, then it’s a legitimate need to change it up. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I hate to say it because it’s a very sensitive issue but the 9/11 stuff was our only shot at a way out. The owner will never make a move off McDermott. In a lot of ways the guy has certainly earned that. I have been done with him. It’s not even him entirely. It’s just the defense and whatever his clueless vision for that is. I want an outside person to have free rein over the defense. It’s not the players. It’s the scheme. The guy is not going to get fired for anything on the field. It was always going to be from some PR scandal. We had one but, here we are. If we never win a Super Bowl with the best QB in the league…this coach will never live that down. It’s inexcusable 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I never heard of Sean Mcvay or Sean McDermott or Nick Siriani before they were hired. I want to hire the next Sean McVay who goes on to win Super Bowls with Bills. I am hopeful the Bills management has a deeper knowledge base of coaches than I do. 

 

Yep. There are professionals who get paid to know.

 

After Pegula learned to not trust Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley in the HC search, he went and hired an outside consulting firm who helped him find little-known Sean McDermott. Time to call them again.

[chongli]

You lost me at:

 

"90% of us wish a change".

[Billever76]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Doesn't matter who. The minute a new coach doesn't run the team exactly how they would have or, heaven forbid, loses a game....they would be calling to fire that coach anyway.

9 yrs of patience and we are no closer to our goal now from when we hired mcclappy