For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[Steve Billieve]

yea, lets not blame the horrendous player execution

[T master]

43 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I’ll tell you one thing and I’m not afraid to say it, but I don’t think Brady is the answer at OC. Why are we clipping the wings of Josh Allen ? The Bills looked more afraid of Drake Maye last night than the other way around. 

The Bills knew Diggs better than any one else in the league so WHY wasn't their best CB on him all game number 1 & 2 I saw Bills WR's open on many plays WAY down field and with Allens arm it would have been 7 just about every time but the scheme I feel has Josh looking short more than long .

 

I knew this game was going to be a tough one & Vrabel had his guys ready I feel the one thing the Bills were missing is fire, Diggs was up and down the side line yelling at his guys "I NEED MORE THEY AREN'T GONG TO GIVE THIS TO US" where was that guy on the Bills side line ?

 

Some body needs to be that guy in those games to put a boot in the A** of every one on the sideline especially when they are down . That game was winnable but the urgency was on the Pats sideline they were the ones that had something to prove and did !! 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Yeah... '90% want change' is absolutely NOT an accurate statement.

 

Sorry we aren't going 17-0 this year. 

[thenorthremembers]

46 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

He has never won without an elite QB. No. But the Bills have one so that wouldn't be an issue here. 

 

The issues are:

 

He would be 74

He seems distracted with a gf 50 years younger

Does he want to return to the NFL?

 

 

I've had this same argument here before.   Being an elite QB does not make you Tom Brady.   Belichick had the greatest QB of all time.  Perhaps the greatest professional athlete and champion of all time.   I know we all love Josh, but his name shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as Brady's.     74 year old circus freak Belichick isnt brining Brady with him.   I cant believe we are even having the conversation about Bill frickin Belichick right now. 

Edited 2 hours ago by thenorthremembers

[Bills!Win!]

Since we have been bringing back old players, why not rex Ryan? 

[FireChans]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Doesn't matter who. The minute a new coach doesn't run the team exactly how they would have or, heaven forbid, loses a game....they would be calling to fire that coach anyway.

There’s something so funny to me about calling a fanbase impatient because McD and Beane haven’t won a conference championship in ALMOST A DECADE.

 

We have lifelong fans on this board who were single, got married, and have had multiple children SINCE MCBEANE GOT HERE

[henry jones]

19 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

Jim Schwartz browns dc

Loved him when he was here.  Not sure about him as a head coach though.  Definitely would be an upgrade to Babich 

[Billever76]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

I've had this same argument here before.   Being an elite QB does not make you Tom Brady.   Belichick had the greatest QB of all time.  Perhaps the greatest professional athlete and champion of all time.   I know we all love Josh, but his name shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as Brady's.   

It’s a coaches job to scheme to his players strengths not the other way around as mcclappy has done….statistically speaking Allen is above Brady and superbowls and championships are a team accolade 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, McBean said:

I agree they need a new voice.

 

Just watch hard knocks and you could see that.

 

However, in no universe does he get fired after the season imo, so it’s irrelevant to even talk about.

 

No way Pegula will fire him and Beane. Look at the Sabres.

Especailly if he fires Adams and Ruff after the season... he is not blowing up to FO offices...  

42 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah….look at the stat line. Maye and Allen had the EXACT SAME stat line for virtually the exact same yardage 22-30 completions.  But…Josh’s 31st attempt was a pick in the red zone and Maye didn’t throw one. That one bad throw cost the Bills the game or everyone would be looking at the lone remaining team at 5-0 this morning. 

Or one less turnover... bottom line to me... Josh played c+ b- football... if he isnt wearing a cape with this defense really good chance you are losing especially to a good team... 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

9 yrs of patience and we are no closer to our goal now from when we hired mcclappy

That's just flat out false on two fronts. 

 

First off, when McD got here we were not even "in the hunt" by Thanksgiving many years. Now we are an almost automatic playoff team year after year. That in itself is closer to their goal.

 

They have eluded and at times flat out said, a Super Bowl win would be great. The the team is content making the playoffs yearly and giving themselves a chance every year. And they have done that. The teams goal of getting, as Beane has said, numerous bites at the apple is being met. 

[thenorthremembers]

I for one cant believe McDermott would have Brady call a play for Josh to purposely throw an interception in the red zone.  Then he goes and forces Brady to call for Keon Coleman to fumble at his own 15 yard line.   UGHHHH!!  Fire him today.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

You act like McD wasn’t in love with the feel good story of bringing Tre White home. 
 

There’s no chance he wasn’t 100% on board with that decision. 

McDermott has never won anything WITH Josh Allen.

 

We don’t need a coach who can win without Josh. We have Josh.

 

We do need a coach who can win with a great QB. We don’t have that.

I don't disagree. Ive been suspended on here 3 times for a perceived crusade against McDermott.  But I try to be balanced.  Lack of focus is partly coaching. 11 penalties and 3 turnovers is on the players 

[Gregg]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

 

I've had this same argument here before.   Being an elite QB does not make you Tom Brady.   Belichick had the greatest QB of all time.  Perhaps the greatest professional athlete and champion of all time.   I know we all love Josh, but his name shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as Brady's.   

 

Brady is the GOAT, and you are correct in that Allen isn't on his level until he wins a Super Bowl and probably multiple Super Bowls to be on Brady's level. One thing I am sure of is Bill would build a strong defense. He is also a great DC as well as HC. While Allen isn't on Brady's level I would want to see Josh in the playoffs with a strong defense on his side. I bet the Bills would have a Lombardi if he had a strong defense helping him the playoffs. Bill would give him that.

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

There’s something so funny to me about calling a fanbase impatient because McD and Beane haven’t won a conference championship in ALMOST A DECADE.

 

We have lifelong fans on this board who were single, got married, and have had multiple children SINCE MCBEANE GOT HERE

And many have them have been on the fire McDermott/Beane bandwagon since their third year here. It's not like this year people are suddenly saying it's been long enough. Y'all sound like broken records over the last decade. 

[nedboy7]

I’m not sure who’s coming in and winning anything with this defense.  

[mjt328]

I like Sean McDermott's overall philosophy as a head coach, and the way he runs the locker room.  Players talk all the time about how superior the culture is in Buffalo versus other teams.  That's the main reason I'm reluctant to scream for a change.

 

But I've also come to the conclusion that we will NEVER take the next step, until McDermott is willing to totally concede control of the Defense to an elite coordinator.  That means scheme, personnel and playcalling.  His system and style has completely run it's course.

 

We have seen the same problems persist for 5-6 years in a row now.  

-  Lack of QB pressure in key moments

-  Poor tackling 

-  Undersized front getting steamrolled by bigger O-Lines

-  Key injuries, also due to undersized players 

-  Cornerbacks playing too soft in coverage

 

At what point do we realize that Matt Milano and Terrell Bernard are small for linebackers, and thus will always have problems with injuries?  At what point do we realize the same thing with Taron Johnson, since we are asking him to basically play like a third linebacker half the time?  At what point do we realize that a 4-man pass rush needs elite pass rushers, and not just a constant rotation to succeed?  At what point do we realize that good QBs can pick apart soft zone coverage, and we need to draft elite guys who can go man/man against top WRs?  

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'd offer San Francisco whatever they want for Shanahan

[corta765]

It is groundhog day all over. Lose to an AFC team where you turn the ball over like crazy, take a billion penalties, the offense has an off day and the defense can carry the water. I have seen this movie over and over and mark my words come January when the Bills are the 2 or 3 or heck a wildcard team as Maye looks like he can carry the water for them it'll be the same damn discussion again. For a guy who is a defensive mind McD's defenses have only gotten worse over the years yet the investment is pour more resources there with nothing to show for it. At this point fire McD, burn the ships and go with Brady as the head coach because that is the only change that might actually change the course from another defeat on the road in January where the offense has a B+ day and the defense allows 30+ points and everyone criticizes everything when the true issue is unless 17 is A+ 24/7 he will never have the help to make the Super Bowl.

[Thurman#1]

Yeah, losses are tough, especially to the Pats.

 

But this is still pretty nuts. We haven't lost the one seed yet. Nor do we have any clear idea whatsoever whether or not we will.

Edited 1 hour ago by Thurman#1

[TH3]

groundhog day with starting threads like this - yup