Game week thread - Pats at Bills SNF

[Low Positive]

Fan psychology is interesting. The fans of a 2-2 Pats team are WAY more confident than fans of a 4-0 Bills team. The period from 2000-2018 has left an indelible mark. Bills fans have been waiting for the other shoe to drop for the past 5 years and Pats fans expect to dominate the league again any day now. Anytime they get a wiff of success, they start strutting. But remember, these are the same MFers who were fitting Mac Jones (MJ10, the Baby GOAT) for a gold jacket just a few years ago. 

[Low Positive]

8 minutes ago, colin said:

i thought we'd look better against the aint's than we did, but i think we walk on the pats this sunday night.  big early lead and once they stop running the ball they just won't be able to keep up with us.

The only team that crushed the Saints this year was the Seahawks, and it wasn't their offense or defense that did it. They broke their backs early with two long kick returns. The only team that the Pats have crushed this year was the Panthers and it wasn't their offense or defense that broke the game open. It was two long punt returns in the first half.  

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, stevewin said:

(Among other things) I REALLY don't get how Vrabel is considered to be some elite legendary coach by so many on here.  The definition of style over substance.  The definition of a Meathead.  

I thought Doug Marrone was "Meathead" - He's the Pats O-Line coach.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, BearNorth said:

I thought Doug Marrone was "Meathead" - He's the Pats O-Line coach.

Josh McDaniels is a meathead too. They got a whole collection. What is the collective noun for meatheads? 

[SCBills]

Seeing some practice clips come across and these helmets are so clean 

[BigAl2526]

9 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Josh McDaniels is a meathead too. They got a whole collection. What is the collective noun for meatheads? 

I think it's "meatheads."

[Low Positive]

Just now, BigAl2526 said:

I think it's "meatheads."

I mean like "school of fish" or "murder of crows." Could it be a "BALCO of Meatheads?" Or how about a "Stallone of Meatheads?"

[Success]

Just saw a Pats fan say that there is no way they would trade Maye for Allen.

 

That's....well, that's somethin'.

 

 

 

[Low Positive]

5 minutes ago, Success said:

Just saw a Pats fan say that there is no way they would trade Maye for Allen.

 

That's....well, that's somethin'.

 

 

 

They are really high on themselves up there after crushing the Panthers this weekend. If you go to Pats Planet, they made 3 different phone wallpapers of Diggs after that game. They also have one with Maye's league rankings. 

[stevewin]

25 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Josh McDaniels is a meathead too. They got a whole collection. What is the collective noun for meatheads? 

McDaniels is an arrogant cheating POS.

 

Raiders players polled by NFLPA:

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According to the NFLPA: "The players gave former head coach Josh McDaniels the lowest head coaching score in the league. Only 39 percent of players feel that Josh McDaniels was efficient with their time (32nd overall). He was also ranked least likely to listen to his locker room of any NFL head coach."

And ask the good people of Denver what they think of him...

 

It's pieces of sh!t like this that help keep my hate tor that franchise burning despite its irrelevance

Edited Thursday at 07:05 PM by stevewin

[Magox]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

He's top10 in basically all the metrics I like to use to quantify QB play, it's not such a crazy thought

He hasn’t torched anyone as of yet.  He’s played very efficiently and at a high level but in both his wins he threw the ball 24 times or less.

 

The two times he threw more than 24 times they lost.   

[DapperCam]

38 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Fan psychology is interesting. The fans of a 2-2 Pats team are WAY more confident than fans of a 4-0 Bills team. The period from 2000-2018 has left an indelible mark. Bills fans have been waiting for the other shoe to drop for the past 5 years and Pats fans expect to dominate the league again any day now. Anytime they get a wiff of success, they start strutting. But remember, these are the same MFers who were fitting Mac Jones (MJ10, the Baby GOAT) for a gold jacket just a few years ago. 

I don't think Pats fans are more confident. The "predict a score" thread on their message board is 50/50 split on who will win the game. This board's same thread is 100% picking the Bills (I saw one person pick the Pats and they didn't predict a score).

I think we're just hearing negative comments relative to expectations. Bills fans are worried there is a chance they might lose the game if they don't bring their A game. Pats fans are excited there is a chance they might win the game if they bring their A game.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I think Maye is pretty good.

But that Joe Milton from last year was scary good in terms of his upside. I am just glad they traded him. I was worried he was lurking around and would figure out a way to surpass Maye.

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, stevewin said:

(Among other things) I REALLY don't get how Vrabel is considered to be some elite legendary coach by so many on here.  The definition of style over substance.  The definition of a Meathead.  So many times I watched crappy Titans teams coached by him and they'd throw to a shot of the Neanderthal on the sideline and my immediate thought was always the same - "What a Meathead".  He's like Bob Saleh Lite

I can still not believe on 4th and 4 Vrabel rolled Carlos Santos out for a 53 yard FG down 7 from the BUF 35 with 6:35 to go when Santos missed his previous 3 kicks.  Peeps wanna harp on McD as conservative but that was absolutely bonkers bad.    

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201910060oti.htm

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Because we're judging him on actual in-game performance and decisions (which he is top notch at as a Belichick "know the rule book" disciple), and the fact he coached a Tannehill-lead team to the #1 seed TWICE. And not just judging him on how he looks as a former LB.

 

Bob Saleh cant hold his jock.

 

And given our HC's proclivity to botching decisions in crunch time, you can absolutely expect Vrabel to get one over on McD and squeak out an extra last minute FG to tie or win if he can keep it close.

See above for his great in-game performance.  Do you have examples were he made a "top notch" decision.  Cause the coaching in that game was pretty rough.  If McD tried to kick a FG like that we would not let him go home (oh yeah that game was at home).  Youre right he would definitely try to get an extra last minute FG lololol

Edited Thursday at 07:09 PM by YattaOkasan

[Negan]

Milton Williams not seen at practice.  Run it down their face Sunday night.

[bills742]

 

[MasterStrategist]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

my point wasn't if he is or isn't better than Macorkle.

 

it was that in Mac's career growth he was the next coming of a tier 1 franchise QB. Maye is on the cusp of this lip - to prove it or not. i think he has a higher ceiling than Mac but isn't to Mac's ceiling yet. Mac had a few very good games. Maye is going out and slinging it all around as they have no choice but to run it with bad RB's and offense where he has to try to do it all.

Yeah that wasnt my point either, just a nugget...all good

[boyst]

Maye is on the trajectory to get to the HOF.

[bills742]

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I mean, the fact that he got two head coaching jobs shows that he's a very good coordinator. Bobby Babich ain't getting that opportunity anytime soon lol

You can be a great coordinator but a crap head coach. (McDaniels, spagnulo etc)

 

The bills have the 11th ranked defence last year? What stat are you using to say that? (Please tell me it's not points per game)

 

If you watch other teams consistently which I'm sure you do, you would say with 100 percent certainty that the bills did not have the 11th best defence last year. It was more bottom 12 with turnovers saving them from being bottom 5

Umm...He had Brady as his QB.  Multiple OC's that worked with Brady failed on their own as HC's.  Adam Gase had Manning as his QB and was a failure as a HC twice.     

In most cases the QB makes the OC not the other way around.