Ravens vs Chiefs Game thread (the Bills lamp is lit)

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, FireChans said:

Oh really?

 

I felt like somehow avoiding the team who singlehandedly has ended our season 4/5 years greatly increased our Super Bowl odds.

I mean it definitely would haha I said ‘assuming they’re back’ in my post.  If the chiefs are ‘back’ they are not losing before seeing us no matter the round 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Not really…gonna have to play them sometime if they really are ‘back’ and I’d rather them have to fight in for a wildcard spot.  Chargers losing today and chiefs probably beating the ravens opens the door wide open for the afc west anyway 

At some point, if this is a true SB contender, we shouldn't care who wins the AFC west/North divisions. This team will need to win a SB by beating three great teams at minimum. If they can't do it, they were never deserving. 

[Process]

Chiefs really blew an opportunity there. Could have put them away.

[Roundybout]

7 minutes ago, boyst said:

Sir, he's a two time MVP. He is half the QB that Mahomes is - I have never seen Jackson throw a backwards fumble and recover it himself to save his team in a loss.

Thank you, Tony! 

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

Of course, and that line is very fine. And knowing when to balance the risk versus reward, and knowing what's at stake. And then taking accountability For it afterward. 

 

There are a lot of reasons to like Lamar Jackson but there are whole lot of reasonsnot to.

 

Josh has learned about it, Lamar Jackson still constantly tries to put on that crown and cape. Josh succeeds and wins when it matters in Lamar flops. 

 

LeBron James and Lamar Jackson are the same character.

I agree, but it’s almost too harsh on LeBron, even though I always criticized him the same. I don’t think Lamar will ever win a title, because he’s limited at his position, which is a fact people choose to overlook. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I’d honestly be suprised if the Chiefs are a low seed. I expect them to be near the top by the time the season is over. People got a bit overhyped about their first two weeks. I loved the concept of the dynasty being over, but it’s not. 

Yea I thought the chargers could’ve coasted but blowing a game to the giants flipped everything.  Figured kc would beat Baltimore they virtually always do 

 

chiefs missing the playoffs was a bit of a long shot but wildcard looked pretty possible

Edited Sunday at 10:02 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Brand J]

Part of me wants to predict a Ravens comeback to reverse their collapsing narrative, but I can’t see it with all the injuries on defense.

[Billsfanatic8989]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Too many injury excuses for this one I think…if they had a few more of their starters maybe there was a bit of a chance 

 

coaches don’t make decisions to placate fans 

When are these injured players returning? Because they can't afford many more losses. Sometimes you have to change it up. 

 

For the record, I want them to keep the staff in place. Them getting in a huge hole is a benefit to the Bills. 

[Governor]

9 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Oh I'd be stunned if the DC isn't fired tomorrow. This was the top SB pick. The media/fans in Baltimore will want blood.

 

They absolutely have to make a change because it looks real bad.

Exactly right. If not tomorrow then next week. Their fans are totally done with all of them. I encourage everyone to watch locked on ravens tonight if they lose to get a feel on what’s going on.

[Billsfanatic8989]

2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

Part of me wants to predict a Ravens comeback to reverse their collapsing narrative, but I can’t see it with all the injuries on defense.

I'm stunned they are only down ten. 

[Yobogoya!]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

Chiefs really blew an opportunity there. Could have put them away.

Butker hitting a wall is an unexpected boon for this year. He’s been clutching and now Chiefs are clutching their cheeks even on extra points. 

[Livinginthepast]

Whoever wins this. I hope they both are bruised and battered by the end.

[DapperCam]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

This is going to be a dog fight in second half

Yea like a pitbull vs a chihuahua 

[WideNine]

Both Harbaugh and McDermott are from the Reid coaching tree and both struggle to beat him.

A simple fix for the Ravens is to have Harbaugh up his clapping game - at least McDermott looks like he is putting in the effort and time to come prepared to games.

[BigDingus]

21 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Lamar is an elite runner with an elite RB and throws into big windows.

 

He has become a better passer to hit tight windows but doesn’t drop back and have the accuracy/timing of the 3 mentioned above. 
 

He is not a better passer than Allen. Thats comical.  His deep ball is great.. so is Russel Wilson’s.   Much more to pocket passing than that. 
 

Their running game puts teams in insane conflict that gives him a better picture to throw than anyone in the league. 
 

A lot of that is him.  So credit to him.  But he’s not the passer of the other 3 in the Big 4. 
 

He also chokes where the others don’t.. but that’s another convo. 
 

 

I'm not talking rushing game at all. Allen is the better QB. 

But Lamar the LAST COUPLE YEARS has been a better passer than Allen.

 

Everyone can be mad at me, but outside of Bills fans, Lamar is considered one of the best PASSERS in the league. Not talking "best QBs," just PASSERS. 

 

He's more efficient, more accurate, throws almost no INTs, has thrown significantly more TD passes & has a much better passer rating for a reason. And I hate how much emphasis people put on passer rating, but Lamar has the best passer rating IN HISTORY for a reason. He didn't just luck into that.

 

Why are people making me defend Lamar's passing? It's not 2022 anymore. Are Bills fans still so behind that they think Lamar is a "running QB" that just happens to pass sometimes? That's moronic. 

 

Comparing him to Russell Wilson is even dumber. Russ throws a nice LOOKING deep ball, while Lamar throws an ACCURATE deep ball & does so consistently. 

 

And let's not act like he's all checkdowns aside from the occasional deep ball (like Russ). Lamar LEAD THE LEAGUE in average air yard per attempt with 8.8 ypa in 2024!

 

Josh Allen was 9th. 

 

Want to talk about most passes behind the LoS? Josh Allen is 12th most in the league, Lamar is so far down the list it doesn't show up without paying to unlock more data (but lower than 25th). 

 

This season, Lamar averages 6.3 air yards per pass (most in the league), Allen averages only 4.2. 

 

But sure, let's keep pretending every possible passing stat doesn't matter, just because Lamar has gotten good at it.

 

Passing stats below are from 2023 to 2025... But if you want to ignore Allen's INTs & remove the 2023 season (just to discredit Lamar further), go ahead. Comparing 2024 PASSING stats only helps my argument even more.

 

Edited Sunday at 10:09 PM by BigDingus

[Billsfanatic8989]

I understand most teams prefer playing ahead. But guys like Tom Brady and Mahomes could win trailing by a few scores. They never panicked. I don't see that with Lamar Jackson. Everything speeds up for him and he seems to panic when trailing. 

 

That's the difference between great QB's and a special ones imo. 

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

I'm not talking rushing game at all. Allen is the better QB. 

But Lamar the LAST COUPLE YEARS has been a better passer than Allen.

 

Everyone can be mad at me, but outside of Bills fans, Lamar is considered one of the best PASSERS in the league. Not talking "best QBs," just PASSERS. 

 

He's more efficient, more accurate, throws almost no INTs, has thrown significantly more TD passes & has a much better passer rating for a reason. And I hate how much emphasis people put on passer rating, but Lamar has the best passer rating IN HISTORY for a reason. He didn't just luck into that.

 

Why are people making me defend Lamar's passing? It's not 2022 anymore. Are Bills fans still so behind that they think Lamar is a "running QB" that just happens to pass sometimes? That's moronic. 

 

Comparing him to Russell Wilson is even dumber. Russ throws a nice LOOKING deep ball, while Lamar throws an ACCURATE deep ball & does so consistently. 

 

And let's not act like he's all checkdowns aside from the occasional deep ball (like Russ). Lamar LEAD THE LEAGUE in average air yard per attempt with 8.8 ypa in 2024!

 

Josh Allen was 9th. 

 

Want to talk about most passes behind the LoS? Josh Allen is 12th most in the league, Lamar is so far down the list it doesn't show up without paying to unlock more data (but lower than 25th). 

 

This season, Lamar averages 6.3 air yards per pass (most in the league), Allen averages only 4.2. 

 

But sure, let's keep pretending every possible passing stat doesn't matter, just because Lamar has gotten good at it.

 

Would you please not bring in stats, or facts. 

[billsherd]

Not as entertaining as I thought it would be.

[DapperCam]

3 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

I'm not talking rushing game at all. Allen is the better QB. 

But Lamar the LAST COUPLE YEARS has been a better passer than Allen.

 

Everyone can be mad at me, but outside of Bills fans, Lamar is considered one of the best PASSERS in the league. Not talking "best QBs," just PASSERS. 

 

He's more efficient, more accurate, throws almost no INTs, has thrown significantly more TD passes & has a much better passer rating for a reason. And I hate how much emphasis people put on passer rating, but Lamar has the best passer rating IN HISTORY for a reason. He didn't just luck into that.

 

Why are people making me defend Lamar's passing? It's not 2022 anymore. Are Bills fans still so behind that they think Lamar is a "running QB" that just happens to pass sometimes? That's moronic. 

 

Comparing him to Russell Wilson is even dumber. Russ throws a nice LOOKING deep ball, while Lamar throws an ACCURATE deep ball & does so consistently. 

 

And let's not act like he's all checkdowns aside from the occasional deep ball (like Russ). Lamar LEAD THE LEAGUE in average air yard per attempt with 8.8 ypa in 2024!

 

Josh Allen was 9th. 

 

Want to talk about most passes behind the LoS? Josh Allen is 12th most in the league, Lamar is so far down the list it doesn't show up without paying to unlock more data (but lower than 25th). 

 

This season, Lamar averages 6.3 air yards per pass (most in the league), Allen averages only 4.2. 

 

But sure, let's keep pretending every possible passing stat doesn't matter, just because Lamar has gotten good at it.

 

Stats don’t really tell the whole story IMO. Lamar will do almost anything to avoid taking a risk with the ball or throw an incomplete pass, often to his team’s detriment. It is part of his hyperefficient stats.

 

He also uses his escapability to buy time, which makes a lot more of his throws to open receivers. Allen does the same thing, but he isn’t quite on that level of mobility, so he needs to do more pocket passing and throws into tighter windows.

[aceman_16]

Wow...I just got banned at Baltimore Beatdown for asking why Lamar threw the ball out of bounds on 4th down. The new mod over there is touchy AF.

Edited Sunday at 10:12 PM by aceman_16