Lose on purpose?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

39 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Our first look at Crayonz...

Scene of the crime:

23 of the 27 thought it was just afternoon senior clubhouse activities. 🤔

[rusty shackleford]

[pennstate10]

11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Exactly.  It’s cool we have this long streak but it leaves it unclear if we NEED to win the turnover battle,.  Also, each week the odds increase that we lose it.  If we are way ahead, we might as well get those odds back in our favor.

Not sure if this is sarcastic, but that’s not how probability works. 
 

If you flip a (fair) coin and get heads 10 times in a row, what is the probability the next flip is heads?

[ngbills]

I say we do this every game we are winning. Fumble the ball as many times as possible so no one can say we win because the turnover battle and luck. It will be the opposite we are now winning despite 7 turnovers per game. The nfl will fear us. But then teams will stop recovering the fumbles and we will go back to winning the turnover battle and no one will fear us any more because we are lucky again. 

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Convoluted logic. 
If you flip a coin and it comes up ‘tails’ 10 consecutive times, are the odds better that it will come up ‘heads’ with the 11th flip of the coin? 
No. It’s still 50-50 every time. 
Deliberately losing a turnover battle to improve the chances of it not happening again in the future is nonsensical.

Maybe the only thing stupider would be purposely losing a game. 🙄

The OP's next post will be losing a game late in the season so we can have a playoff road game in a warmer environment & avoid Buffalo's winter weather.  

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

This is your masterpiece

[Robert Paulson]

12 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

Wow. This is an offseason July worthy comment 

[4merper4mer]

25 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Not sure if this is sarcastic, but that’s not how probability works. 
 

If you flip a (fair) coin and get heads 10 times in a row, what is the probability the next flip is heads?

Is it possible you’re biased given the way Oregon ended that game last night?  Try to look at this objectively and with no recency bias.

[strive_for_five_guy]

18 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Is it possible you’re biased given the way Oregon ended that game last night?  Try to look at this objectively and with no recency bias.

The Penn St game actually highlights your point.  They had won so many Whiteout games in a row, their odds of winning last night were less.

[stevestojan]

Anyone remember like 25 years ago when I would post every thought I had and it ended up with my name becoming the synonym for 💩? 
 

Pepperidge farms remembers. 

[boyst]

6 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Anyone remember like 25 years ago when I would post every thought I had and it ended up with my name becoming the synonym for 💩? 
 

Pepperidge farms remembers. 

Remember the word filter that would auto correct to stevestojan?

 

Pepperidge Farm also remembers that. 🤣

[Uncle Stucky]

12 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

[4merper4mer]

30 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

The Penn St game actually highlights your point.  They had won so many Whiteout games in a row, their odds of winning last night were less.

OMG.  Turnovers impact a game.  Fans attire?  Seriously.

[Mister Defense]

12 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

 

 

You are kidding, right?

 

Have to be!??

 

If not, Holy sheep shi*!  And would  desperately need to take an entry level statistics course--and many basic logic classes.

 

 

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

Im amazed this thread has made it to six pages.

Edited September 28 by Rousseauisnoschmo

[Alphadawg7]

6 pages?  
 

People need to go outside more.

[BillytheKid]

13 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

To be serious about this, this wouldn’t work at all.

 

It won’t change any probabilities just because you decide to do something on purpose.

 

All that would do it make you lose the turnover battle for that game when you didn’t need to do so.

 

The same probability or odds of it happening would still be the exact same the following week whether you do it on purpose or not. 
 

I understand what you are trying to say or do with this but it doesn’t work that way. 
 

So on a serious note the answer to your question is NO. 
 

 

[JaCrispy]

13 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

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