Robert Saleh Accuses Jaguars of Stealing Signs - Points the Finger At Entire McVay Coaching Tree

[gjv]

I guess we're going back to the Paul Brown system of sending the play in with alternating guards.

[Devilmann]

Sounds like he’s getting his built in excuse ready to go. 

[Ralonzo]

[MikePJ76]

This is like, as Parcells always told the story, Everytime the giants played the 49ers under bill walsh right before the niners first play they would declare their headsets didn’t work then the giants had to turn their head sets off and miraculously after the niners opening scripted plays were over their head sets would work again.

 

this kind of stuff has always gone on

[NoSaint]

Mcvay is wild. He could tell you the 12th play of the third quarter of week 4 in 2017. The players involved, exact play call and outcome. 
 

He also is very smart with forcing tells with formations and motion 

 

this feels like the meathead complaining the smart kid has better grades 

[Mark Vader]

Yet the Jaguars still suck.

[Chandler#81]

5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Yet the Jaguars still suck.

🤷‍♂️

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

Meanwhile the Bills' challenge expert sent a runner to tell McDermott to challenge Tyreek's out of bounds catch on the first drive last game.  Too many stairs though.  

what’s the typical career expectancy of the Bills “challenge expert “?

 

3-4 games ? 

[thenorthremembers]

Why the hell are professional football teams using the same signals for multiple games?   

[Billsatlastin2018]

https://youtu.be/9VJ4ofMnq9A?si=D9Een7eds3Rp-WnK

 

[thewookie1]

As long as they aren’t taping practices or tapping the QB to coach communication thing I can’t see how it’s wrong to watch your opponent’s staff and players for any type of tell.

[unbillievable]

If the QB yells "Omaha!" it's a pass to Marvin Harrison. 

[Starr Almighty]

3 hours ago, pi2000 said:

Aren't plays called down to the field using headsets in the players helmets?

What signs are there to steal?

Yes to the LB he gives the team signs he can't walk up to 10 other players and whisper the play call to them

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, MadPerry said:

Absolutely not acceptable.  If they are monitoring the other teams sideline for any signal that is cheating as far as I am concerned.  Prepare your team with what is put on film and react accordingly during the game.  Disgusting that anyone thinks this is ok.

the signals are out in the open during the game, so they are fair game.  You also have a headset to communicate with a player on O and D.  

[thenorthremembers]

2 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

As long as they aren’t taping practices or tapping the QB to coach communication thing I can’t see how it’s wrong to watch your opponent’s staff and players for any type of tell.

Its Robert Saleh.  Take it with a grain of salt.   

[Buffalo716]

I've been at multiple games around the country and at Ralph Wilson stadium where I have caught sign stealing from opponents 

 

I actually alerted the Ralph once and the guy moved.. but he was 100% sign stealing and relaying .. he was communicating with people on the sidelines 

 

Being around the game so much it was easy to spot 

Edited September 27 by Buffalo716

[Rubes]

7 hours ago, pi2000 said:

Aren't plays called down to the field using headsets in the players helmets?

What signs are there to steal?

Seriously, what signs are being stolen? Don’t headsets eliminate the need for signs? What are we talking about here?

 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Seriously, what signs are being stolen? Don’t headsets eliminate the need for signs? What are we talking about here?

 

Positional coaches use gestures and occasional signs to relay information 

 

There are absolutely using hand gestures and physical signals to relay to their position groups.. and the coordinators also use gestures and signs it's not all radio

Edited September 27 by Buffalo716

[Rubes]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Positional coaches use gestures and occasional signs to relay information 

 

There are absolutely using hand gestures and physical signals to relay to their position groups

Really? That’s interesting, I had no idea. I figured everything being called was related to the green dot guy, who would then call the defense to the others.

 

Maybe it’s also hand signals between players on defense prior to the snap?

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, Rubes said:

Really? That’s interesting, I had no idea. I figured everything being called was related to the green dot guy, who would then call the defense to the others.

 

Maybe it’s also hand signals between players on defense prior to the snap?

Players on the field absolutely also have hand signals to relay information... And the Green Dot call is basically going to be the meat and potatoes of the call 

 

The positional coaches in situations are also giving hand signals or gestures relaying more information Occasionally... Like they might see something in the alignment and signal bracket coverage 

 

If You're on the road at Ralph Wilson stadium where it's hard to hear you might have to rely on gestures and hand signs occasionally.. sometimes the mic goes down.. so you need to have hand signs

Edited September 27 by Buffalo716