McDermott decision making

[Stenbar]

7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Clock management is hands down McDermott’s worst trait as a coach. Those time outs during the end of the half were ridiculous. Did they really think they were going to do much with 30 seconds and no time outs ? Even if that’s your goal then let Miami use THEIR time outs first. They executed that drive perfectly for the TD and left 11 seconds for us. 
 

The non-challenge on the bobbled Tyreek catch. If a normal fan can see it from their couch then there is no excuse for an NFL coach. Drive led to 7 points. Just mind boggling. I hope they learn from these mistakes because you can’t be pulling that crap in the playoffs. 

He is a very good leader of men, in a real battle he could inspire average soldiers above and beyond their abilities, but if he had to plan the war on paper he would be in trouble and many men would die due to bad decisions. 

With that said, he has accomplished a heck of alot in a place only few have succeeded. 

The Bills will only win a SuperBowl inspite of his gametime decionmaking, not win because he outsmarted the other coach.

[Breakout Squad]

Teams win in imperfect ways a lot. The Eagles won because of the Kelce bobble resulting in the interception. Everyone is aware how huge that play was by the Eagles D. No one is knocking them off their pedestal nationally because good teams win ugly sometimes. 
 

I guess I don’t understand the complaining after a double digit win to go 3-0 all of which are conference wins and 2 divisional wins. 
 

Am I missing something? 🤓

[T.E.]

I'm personally tired of seeing DBs playing twelve yards off the ball on 3rd and 8, particularly against QBs who pose zero threat to hurt you with the long ball.

[Simon]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

They had them in 2nd and long. The problem was lacl of execution on defense not the time outs.

 

It was 2nd/5 when he started calling them.

He was trying to repeat the success he had in a similar situation in the Baltimore game, but this was a different scenario and he should not have done it. Nor do I want it to become a habit for him.

[Einstein's Dog]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It was 2nd/5 when he started calling them.

He was trying to repeat the success he had in a similar situation in the Baltimore game, but this was a different scenario and he should not have done it. Nor do I want it to become a habit for him.

Totally disagree.

 

The Bills were/are the better team.  Extending the time works to our advantage.  It didn't work in this instance but it makes sense to me.  And yes, it worked against Baltimore and in the past against Detroit.  So, yes, with Josh at QB I want to see this aggressive habit continue.

 

Secondly, it's fun to see Josh unleashed.  Josh would be taking control, running a key under one minute drill.  This would not only be great experience but could have the benefit of changing the offensive plan in the second half.  

[chris heff]

I know this is about McDermott’s decision making, but the oddest decision last night, in my opinion was on Brady. I can’t remember if it was second or third quarter, but on consecutive plays two Dolphins DB were injured. Some UDA from Stanford came in, don’t know who replaced the other guy. As the OC don’t you make a call that tests one of those guys? Instead Brady called a run up the middle, which got stuffed.

[DrDawkinstein]

14 minutes ago, HerdMenatlity1 said:

So, Ed just got lucky. Got it. 

 

No one said that. Relax, Mrs Oliver.

 

Ed made a great play and capitalized on Henry's mistake. Both can be true.

 

The TEAM and McD, however, got lucky.

[chongli]

2 hours ago, billvernsays said:

, and the bizarre time outs at the end of the half allowed Miami to go for a TD when they were content running the clock to keep Josh off the field - 4 extra points)  

 

What?? Baltimore did the same thing to us at the end of the game when we were setting up for Prater's game-winning field goal. They were trying to save time for a final drive.

Edited September 19 by chongli

[Rochesterfan]

I think people are totally missing why he called timeouts.

 

There are a couple of things that can happen and since Miami had their timeouts - he was not worried about the clock being a factor for Miami.

 

The reality is you might get lucky - see Baltimore where they drove for a FG as the half expired.

 

The second piece is psychological- if the Bills call timeouts - and as that game had shown - the Dolphins D had not really stopped the Bills - you can maybe get the Dolphins to go more conservative to keep the Bills from getting the ball back. The Dolphins were in FG range - by calling the timeouts you can see if on 3rd down if they trust the pass or maybe you get them to run it to let time run.

 

I love the timeouts as it has little impact other than giving Miami and future opponents something to think about.

[Búfalo Blanco]

I'm not going to sit here and say the guy will never win a Super Bowl, because he has Josh Allen... Hell, Chan Gailey could've possibly won a trophy with Allen.

 

Beyond that, he should've been fired years ago for some of his boneheaded decisions in critical games... not even mentioning that his vaunted defensive scheme has looked horrible at times over his tenure.

[Doc Brown]

21 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It was 2nd/5 when he started calling them.

He was trying to repeat the success he had in a similar situation in the Baltimore game, but this was a different scenario and he should not have done it. Nor do I want it to become a habit for him.

I believe that 2nd and 5 turned into a 3rd and 7 with 42 seconds left. Our defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd and 7.  I had no problem with McD's use of timeouts there.

[jkeerie]

In fairness to McD, that pass to Tyreek on the sidelines was pretty bang-bang.  Even in the broadcast when they showed the replay from the better angle, you did a double-take, seeing the bobble, but Miami was already snapping the ball.  I don't think if they spotted it upstairs, they could flag it quick enough.  It's one thing for fans at home to see things with multiple TV angles and slow motion, but game speed is quite different.

[Simon]

7 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I know this is about McDermott’s decision making, but the oddest decision last night, in my opinion was on Brady. I can’t remember if it was second or third quarter, but on consecutive plays two Dolphins DB were injured. Some UDA from Stanford came in, don’t know who replaced the other guy. As the OC don’t you make a call that tests one of those guys? Instead Brady called a run up the middle, which got stuffed.

 

I think he had Coleman singled up over there and I thought for sure they were going to take a shot at that skinny white boy.

[chris heff]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think he had Coleman singled up over there and I thought for sure they were going to take a shot at that skinny white boy.

Yes, as soon as they showed him, I thought, oh they are going after him.

Edited September 19 by chris heff

[Simon]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I believe that 2nd and 5 turned into a 3rd and 7 with 42 seconds left. Our defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd and 7.  I had no problem with McD's use of timeouts there.

 

It did.

I have no problem with the TO on 3rd/7. And I'd ahve no problem with the TO on 2nd down if it was 2nd/long. And I'd have no problem with the TO on 2nd/5 if Miami was down closer to the 10yrd line.

But with it being only 2nd/5 and with the ball being out around the 25 with plenty of room to operate, I think that gamble accomplishes nothing but giving a helping hand up to an inferior team.

[Pete]

Not throwing a flag on the Hill hobble on 3rd and long is disgusting.  Why the hell do we pay money to a retired official when he is blind?  *****, put me in the replay booth, I’ll work for free, and I would of thrown a challenge flag, because I have a brain and eyes that work

[Low Positive]

12 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think he had Coleman singled up over there and I thought for sure they were going to take a shot at that skinny white boy.

You mean two plays before the missed FG when Jones went out for a play? I just checked. It was Shavers out there wide to the left and Moore in the slot. Just to defend Brady a bit, at that point in the game Cook was getting 9 yards pretty much every time he touched the ball. 

Edited September 19 by Low Positive

[Slack_in_MA]

54 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   He  is a wise and stable genius and if something under his management appears to not be working or correct it is clearly not his fault or responsibility.

    Am I doing this right??? 

Ken Dorsey and Matt Smiley were not working, so....

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Except that's not the case at all. It's that the people that are hired to watch the same thing we do with picture perfect and slowed down camera angles and whom this is literally their professional job to relay what to challenge and what not to are not good at it and have not been for McD's 9 years here. 

Except, that's not what is mentioned in the OP. They are saying McDermott is responsible for that. But according to you we have people to alert him to when to challenge. He can only see it at one angle at live speed. And he only gets 40 seconds to decide. A lot goes into it. Enough that he isn't solely to blame for not challenge that one. 

[Livinginthepast]

43 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I don’t know if the Hill catch would have been overturned it was very close . He bobbled it but I’m not sure if the foot wasn’t still on the ground when he got reposition. It was also incredibly early in the game so McDermott might have thought it was too close and too early to take that chance of losing one 

I dont know why in those iffy situations the coaches on the Bills dont get a player to feign an injury so they get more time to look at it. If McD has a dude helping him with challenges up in the booth, then that guy should buzz McD and tell him to get a player to delay, fake a cramp or something while they have a 2nd look at it. Its seems like a no brainer. Yet that didnt happen last night. I can understand McD's reticence to waste a challenge that early but I dont think he was even aware that the catch by Hill wasnt in bounds. Possibly because the Challenge dude was asleep?