Deone Walker Deflected the Ball on INT

[That's No Moon]

13 hours ago, wppete said:

 

All I know is listening to Al Michaels in slow motion is trippy.

[Big Blitz]

Love to see it 

 

 

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Love to see it 

 

 

That INT by Bernard is weird going by the decisions made by Tua on the passes to Achane throughout the game. 
 

I understand it but with the amount of traffic in that area, he should have pulled it back and reset or thrown to 28. At least to me. 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

That INT by Bernard is weird going by the decisions made by Tua on the passes to Achane throughout the game. 
 

I understand it but with the amount of traffic in that area, he should have pulled it back and reset or thrown to 28. At least to me. 

 

The Bills were on that call like a hobo on a ham sandwich and there was really nowhere to go.

When you factor in the pucker factor with a free-running 330lb DT closing fast, Tua was more or less out of options by the time he even hit his drop.

I haven't loved Babich's work so far this year, but I give him full credit for reading McDaniel's mail on that one.

[blacklabel]

I thought Walker got a little piece of it when I saw it live. Looks like it brushes off his arm. 

[Augie]

26 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

The Bills were on that call like a hobo on a ham sandwich and there was really nowhere to go.

When you factor in the pucker factor with a free-running 330lb DT closing fast, Tua was more or less out of options by the time he even hit his drop.

I haven't loved Babich's work so far this year, but I give him full credit for reading McDaniel's mail on that one.

 

That actually just replayed on NFLN, and I had to chuckle. There was less than nothing there for them. One of the Big Guy’s shining moments too, so I had to back up a few times. 

25 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

I thought Walker got a little piece of it when I saw it live. Looks like it brushes off his arm. 

 

Yep, I saw him interviewed and he said he got a little piece. I’m glad it wasn’t much more!  

[TH3]

9 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

NO !  He is a rookie, you don't have that discussion till year 3 or his 4 year contract and only if he continues to play at a higher level. Got to see if he can play consistently and stay healthy.

Grinch!

[Coach Tuesday]

45 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

That INT by Bernard is weird going by the decisions made by Tua on the passes to Achane throughout the game. 
 

I understand it but with the amount of traffic in that area, he should have pulled it back and reset or thrown to 28. At least to me. 

 

That's exactly what his coach said after the game - was on the QB to throw the outlet there.

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That's exactly what his coach said after the game - was on the QB to throw the outlet there.

 

Curious because the QB after the game said 10 out of 10 times he's throwing it there based on his read.

[thronethinker]

Thie tip is nice but the Int probably happens either way. Bernanrd was all over that throw before it Left Tuas hand.

[Simon]

23 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Curious because the QB after the game said 10 out of 10 times he's throwing it there based on his read.

 

[HardyBoy]

12 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

contributed a nice penalty in ST.   He seems to be regressing on D unfortunately. 

 

Epenessa looked like he was held multiple times fwiw...and then they called the hold on Dion...

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

 

That makes it harder to count to 10, yeah.

 

I'm wondering now because TJ O'Sullivan's breakdown of the route concepts on the right corresponds to Tua's explanation of his read on the throw and TJOS eviscerated his decision as "rookie camp stuff" for not accounting the Mike. Tua specifically said his read was the flat vs the spot, and it's a one-read - if the backer that side shades outside he makes the spot throw to Waddle, if he stays in it goes to the flat, but the Mike was never part of his read. If that's correct, then the old "One-Read Tua" joke isn't really a joke at all, it's a fact.

[HappyDays]

I hope Walker has a strong work ethic. He has all-pro potential if he attacks next offseason the way that Keon Coleman did this past offseason. He doesn't have the lower body strength to be a full time player yet so this season he will get somewhat limited snaps and make a few splash plays which is about as good a rookie season as you could expect from a 4th round pick. Next year he could be a budding superstar if he really wants it.

[HIT BY SPIKES]

On 9/19/2025 at 12:39 AM, wppete said:

Looks like rookie star Deon Walker deflected the ball on the Bernard interception. 

 

 

 

THAT'S MY MAN!!!!

 

REFRESHING WHEN YOU PIMP FOR A GUY TO BE DRAFTED, HE IS DRAFTED BY THE BILLS & HE ACTUALLY PLAYS GREAT AS A ROOKIE

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 20 by HIT BY SPIKES

[GunnerBill]

11 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Epenessa looked like he was held multiple times fwiw...and then they called the hold on Dion...

 

There was a definite hold on one of the third down conversions before half. A pretty huge hold on AJE not called.

8 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

That makes it harder to count to 10, yeah.

 

I'm wondering now because TJ O'Sullivan's breakdown of the route concepts on the right corresponds to Tua's explanation of his read on the throw and TJOS eviscerated his decision as "rookie camp stuff" for not accounting the Mike. Tua specifically said his read was the flat vs the spot, and it's a one-read - if the backer that side shades outside he makes the spot throw to Waddle, if he stays in it goes to the flat, but the Mike was never part of his read. If that's correct, then the old "One-Read Tua" joke isn't really a joke at all, it's a fact.

 

Kurt Warner has an interesting take on the the one read stuff. He says McDaniel's offense puts so much emphasis on scheming open #1 (and generally does a good job of it) that it sort of deprioritises #2 and #3 so if #1 isn't there it isn't as easy for the QB to recognise whether 2 or 3 will be open. It's an interesting point because I have made a similar observation about Shanahan before. It is why he doesn't want freelancers, because his offense isn't set up for them. It works perfectly if you just paint by numbers. 

[No_Matter_What]

22 hours ago, clearwater cadet said:

Anyone notice how Sanders looked?

It is just one man's opinion but I watched the tape and he had maybe two pressures but was double teamed a lot, it seemed lie 75% or so to me. I'd love to see some stats. Maybe I'll watch again and count it myself.

 

I thought he was fine. People are saying he was invisible but it is very hard to see and evaluate DT play while watching live.

Edited September 20 by No_Matter_What

[juno999]

14 hours ago, Simon said:

 

The Bills were on that call like a hobo on a ham sandwich and there was really nowhere to go.

When you factor in the pucker factor with a free-running 330lb DT closing fast, Tua was more or less out of options by the time he even hit his drop.

I haven't loved Babich's work so far this year, but I give him full credit for reading McDaniel's mail on that one.

Tua was afraid of becoming roadkill. 

[Tuco]

9 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

That makes it harder to count to 10, yeah.

 

I'm wondering now because TJ O'Sullivan's breakdown of the route concepts on the right corresponds to Tua's explanation of his read on the throw and TJOS eviscerated his decision as "rookie camp stuff" for not accounting the Mike. Tua specifically said his read was the flat vs the spot, and it's a one-read - if the backer that side shades outside he makes the spot throw to Waddle, if he stays in it goes to the flat, but the Mike was never part of his read. If that's correct, then the old "One-Read Tua" joke isn't really a joke at all, it's a fact.

 

Reminds me of Trent "they showed us a lot of things we hadn't seen on film" Edwards. He always had his mind made up where he was going to throw before the snap. And if it wasn't there after the snap he was lost.

[Ralonzo]

37 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Kurt Warner has an interesting take on the the one read stuff. He says McDaniel's offense puts so much emphasis on scheming open #1 (and generally does a good job of it) that it sort of deprioritises #2 and #3 so if #1 isn't there it isn't as easy for the QB to recognise whether 2 or 3 will be open. It's an interesting point because I have made a similar observation about Shanahan before. It is why he doesn't want freelancers, because his offense isn't set up for them. It works perfectly if you just paint by numbers. 

 

Right, formation is receiver outside and the move tight end inside him on the right, with the back aligned to that side. There's 3 routes in the pattern. X (Waddle) is running a spot, push up 5 yards, turn and present numbers. Achane is aligned as F, offset to run the right flat route. The route from Y (Conner) is a corner at a depth of about 15 yards which is the influence route, not intended as a target.

 

The read is on Dorian Williams on that side. If he steps outside or gains depth it's the spot throw to Waddle, if he stays inside at the spot, then it's the flat to Achane. Bernard also mentioned watching the tape for that formation and action off the snap as something the coaches pointed out he might be able to jump if the QB's eyes are to that side off the snap. On the snap Dorian Williams takes a couple steps to the outside. When Tua sees that he throws the spot where Waddle is just turning after Dorian leverages outside of him to take the flat route, but Bernard was already on the move.

 

JTOS just kills the execution on the Dolphin side here, almost as much as he killed their end-of-game defenses (30:00 should be tabbed).

 

 

Also I just realized I've been saying PJ not JT O'Sullivan. Well, if he wanted me to remember he should have had a better NFL career. No idea where the other thing is coming from, maybe I deprioritize him because I don't easily recognize him...