Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

[K-9]

I worry about a let down after such an emotional comeback win and going to a place that has given us fits in the past. And the Jest offense looked pretty good on Sunday, so I hope we solve our run fit issues. Plus, divisional games between opponents who know each other so well adds an element as well. Nice to know we shredded an Aaron Glenn defense the last time we faced it.

 

[RochesterLifer]

Honestly, I think this is one of those games where Trubisky mops up the fourth quarter. After the multiple coronaries I had Sunday night, I envision bourbon, popcorn, and relaxed smiles.

 

J-E-T-S, sux, sux, sux.

Edited Tuesday at 01:28 PM by RochesterLifer

[Johnnycage46]

I would like to think that the defense will play better after watching they watch the tape of the Ravens game. Generally speaking, when we've had poor performances, we'll usually improved for the next game. Also, while Hall is a very good back, he's not Henry (i.e. a freak who is the size of a DT, but has the speed of a WR).

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said:

I have a gut feeling that Aaron Glenn is a good hire and that the Jets will be tough.

 

they're always going to be a tough out for the bills. intradivision is always difficult.

this week the get right checklist for the Bills:

• Bills Offensive Line needs to be more consistent against a formidable Jets pass rush to give Josh  a cleaner pocket....aka clean that shizzy up.
• Early game time planning and schemes. We looked lost on offense and defense, tripping over ourselves. This needs to be cleaned up, especially considering just a few seasons ago we were the best first half team in the league. The Jets have a quality unit on both sides of the ball but a young up and coming coach (supposedly). This could be a good week to out coach a new guy.
• Our secondary play against the Ravens was not consistent, up to its potential, or even good. We can excuse that, for now, because the Ravens have one of the best offenses in football.

Bonus 4th because it's not a get right situation but a consistency issue

• Our edge got better to set against the Ravens and our pass rush made a difference. Let's see that continue.

I will try to make this Get Right List a weekly thing.

[Gregg]

8 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I worry about a let down after such an emotional comeback win and going to a place that has given us fits in the past. And the Jest offense looked pretty good on Sunday, so I hope we solve our run fit issues. Plus, divisional games between opponents who know each other so well adds an element as well. Nice to know we shredded an Aaron Glenn defense the last time we faced it.

 

 

I think playing a divisional rival will help the Bills not have a letdown. These are the most important games on the schedule as far as taking control of the division. The Bills know they will be in for a tough game if recent history at MetLife is any indication. They may lose but I don't think they will have a letdown. Truth is the Bills could be in great shape with wins over the Jets on Sunday and 4 days later a win over the Fish on TNF. Big back-to-back divisional rivalry games coming up over a 4-day period.

[Chandler#81]

Josh Palmer mic’d up during Ravens game. Thrilled we signed him. He’s a FIT!

 

[stevewin]

19 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

A lot of teams have a big game and then a let down immediately after. Truth is, the Ravens were whooping the Bill's for 3qtrs, though. Coaches and players are in the lab cooking up ways to fix what they know are problems. I think the Bills win big for a change. The Jets may have a competent new coach, but he's still new and they are going to have some growing pains.

Agree - there's nothing about the win that should make the players overconfident and full of themselves and complacent.  If anything it's a wakeup call they still have a lot of work to do and things to fix.

 

To me way too early to assess Glenn as HC.  One thing - it did look to me in wk 1 like Jets were trying to be 'tough guys'.  More worried about cheap shots and chippiness than actually losing to this team.

Edited Tuesday at 01:42 PM by stevewin

[Sierra Foothills]

11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

I think playing a divisional rival will help the Bills not have a letdown. These are the most important games on the schedule as far as taking control of the division. The Bills know they will be in for a tough game if recent history at MetLife is any indication. They may lose but I don't think they will have a letdown. Truth is the Bills could be in great shape with wins over the Jets on Sunday and 4 days later a win over the Fish on TNF. Big back-to-back divisional rivalry games coming up over a 4-day period.

 

I think it's a matter of degree.

 

I believe if it was possible to measure a team's motivation that you would find the Jets have a higher level, after all (cliche incoming) this is like their Super Bowl whereas for the Bills, the Jets represent a team they're trying to avoid a letdown against.

 

Good teams most often have enough motivation to avoid being upset... but not always.

 

[SCBills]

39 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I worry about a let down after such an emotional comeback win and going to a place that has given us fits in the past. And the Jest offense looked pretty good on Sunday, so I hope we solve our run fit issues. Plus, divisional games between opponents who know each other so well adds an element as well. Nice to know we shredded an Aaron Glenn defense the last time we faced it.

 

Fair point.. and the Jets looked decent against the Steelers.   They don’t have the Secondary of the Ravens, but do have a pass rush.  
 

That said.. I think Buffalo’s Defense was thoroughly embarrassed by that Ravens game and will be looking to right some wrongs against Baltimore-lite in the Jets. 

[fergie's ire]

35 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

I would like to think that the defense will play better after watching they watch the tape of the Ravens game. Generally speaking, when we've had poor performances, we'll usually improved for the next game. Also, while Hall is a very good back, he's not Henry (i.e. a freak who is the size of a DT, but has the speed of a WR).

I would hope they play better...but would not expect a huge jump.  I expect...and am not to worried about...some growing pains.  The Bills did not get an entirely new coaching staff, so not an entire re-vamp.  However, they did add several new coaches which suggests there is a change in philosophy.  Despite the poor play, we saw some of that on Sunday.  There was a play when Bills showed cover zero...but backed out.  There was a Rousseau knocked down pass when he was standing at the line because it was a zone blitz.  Their defense is more creative but they're still learning how to do it.  They are doing so with a number of rookies playing and a second year safety.  I think the Bishop blitz from 20 yards away was a sign of some of that confusion.  He was bluffing playing 2 high but the Ravens snapped quickly and he was caught out of position.  They are learning...but may take the entire regular season to learn and the offense will need to carry them.  Think about how bad the Chiefs D was while they were learning Spags D in the regular season...and then was great in the playoffs.  That's what I'm hoping. Also, I think what this style of D needs is a speed corner who can stick with a receiver in man and a swiss army knife edge rusher who they can move around.  They drafted one (Max Hairston) and signed the other (Hoicht) but neither are playing.

Edited Tuesday at 02:06 PM by fergie's ire

[stlbills13]

There are some similarities between the two teams but I also think it's overblown. Nobody else in the NFL is Derrick Henry in terms of his size, speed, and ability. He forces defenses to do different things even more so than Lamar does. 

 

The key is to get ahead early and make Fields throw the ball. If you do that, this one will be over early. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

of our next 8 opponents, only the bucs won. and we play them in week 11.

Jets lost

dolphins lost (2 games)

saints lost

patriots lost

falcons lost

panthers lost

chiefs lost

in there is a bye week.

 

This looks great, BUT... Any given Sunday... 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Like many are pointing out, the Jets and Ravens have a lot of similar traits. The two big thing that stand out for me is that Hall is no DH and Fields is no Lamar. Facing the Ravens was a really nice opportunity to remember how to play teams build like this. Things like setting the edge, gap integrity ECT...

 

Jets are like the Great Value brand of Raven football. I expect the Bills defense...who actually played well late in the Ravens game, to be fine tuned and ready to easily shut down the Jet offense. 

 

And while Allen does seem to get bottled up by the Jet defense...we all saw his stats against the Ravens in last year's. Yet he went off for almost 400 passing yards and is likely to win OPOW honors. I see him having some success against the Jet defense. But now that defense  doesn't have CJ Mosley. No DJ Reed. Heck they gave up 4 TD passes to Aaron Rodgers and he's 127 years old. Josh should eat well Sunday.

[Don Otreply]

This is an in division game, they are always a hard game, and as usual we have the target on our backs, every team wants the bragging rights that a win vs us brings, Our boys gotta be bringing it for every one of these games! 
 

GO BILLS!!!

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This looks great, BUT... Any given Sunday... 

 

 

The Chiefs are in real danger of going 0-2. The Eagles even at Arrowhead will be a tough game to win. Similar to the Bills having to beat the Ravens in OP.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

We have to be smart about this game. Every time we go to NYJ, it’s the same thing. If we take care of the football, run well, play pretty good defense and ST, we can win comfortably. I would prefer a very conservative game plan. Take points when you can get them, etc. 

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

This is an in division game, they are always a hard game, and as usual we have the target on our backs, every team wants the bragging rights that a win vs us brings, Our boys gotta be bringing it for every one of these games! 
 

GO BILLS!!!

 

It seems at least in the last few years the Bills and Jets games have been really intense will lots pushing and shoving after the whistle. Didn't Dawkins get into a shouting match with them after the game in the runway when the game was over in OP a few years ago. 

Edited Tuesday at 02:51 PM by Gregg

[Buffalo4Life01]

CJ Mosley is a guy on that defense who always seemed to give Buffalo fits.  They still have an above average defense for sure, one capable of having big games, but Mosely retiring sure does make me feel a lot better about playing them this season.

Go Bills!!

[stuvian]

This will be a hard fought physical game. Bills win but Jets cover.

[Sierra Foothills]

31 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

And while Allen does seem to get bottled up by the Jet defense...we all saw his stats against the Ravens in last year's. Yet he went off for almost 400 passing yards and is likely to win OPOW honors. I see him having some success against the Jet defense. But now that defense  doesn't have CJ Mosley. No DJ Reed. Heck they gave up 4 TD passes to Aaron Rodgers and he's 127 years old. Josh should eat well Sunday.

 

That makes him 111 years older than Tremaine Edmunds!