Did the Bills win, or di the Ravens lose?

[nedboy7]

I think we are the ones who won.  But lost years off our lives for 3.5 quarters. 

[Peace Frog]

Both happened. However, I would like to point out that Derrick Henry did not "fumble the ball";  it was knocked out by Ed Oliver.

[RyanC883]

  Without the Ravens calling bizzare plays (running Flowers), we likely don't have the ability to come back given that our D was incapable of stopping Lamar or Henry on the ground, or even Lamar in the air.  On the flip side, we did a LOT of work to win that game and won all the battles we could.  End result: victory.  Interestingly during the dought years, and even after (13 seconds, last year KC), I feel like we came out on the Raven's end a lot.  

[Bruffalo]

Allen needed to make big time throws to win the game. It wasn't a gimme implosion or something.

That being said, both can be true.

[TheWei44]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Haurbaughs coaching tightened up 

 

Sean McDermott didn't and kept the boys ready to rally 

 

McDermott never gets too high never gets too low that is actually the best temperament for a coach ... The team didn't get down 

 

Josh did what he does..  showed why he's the best and why it's a 60-minute game

The interesting thing to me is that IIRC McDermott tightened up similarly in the second half of the playoff game and let the Ravens back in a bit by being somewhat conservative.  So maybe Harbaugh and McDermott coach similarly with a sizeable lead?  And perhaps true of a lot of coaches?

 

It's also interesting to me that we missed a 2-pt conversion near the end of the game to tie it (like what happened with the Ravens).  Thankfully we had some time left to work with (and 3 timeouts).   

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Like people are saying about the bills defense in the playoffs, I don’t know how long we can keep making excuses for the ravens blowing these kinds of games.  ‘The ravens lost the game the bills didn’t win’ implies it’s an absolute fluke result that they’d blow a comfortable lead but they do it way more often than a lot of other teams 

 

heck it’s not even the first time we’ve done something like this to Baltimore 

Edited September 8 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Walking Tall]

If the 4th quarter results happened in the 1st quarter…….3rd in 2nd, etc ., people would be talking about how the Bills almost blew the game.

 

The Bills took this game from Baltimore. Took it.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

The interesting thing to me is that IIRC McDermott tightened up similarly in the second half of the playoff game and let the Ravens back in a bit by being somewhat conservative.  So maybe Harbaugh and McDermott coach similarly with a sizeable lead?  And perhaps true of a lot of coaches?

 

It's also interesting to me that we missed a 2-pt conversion near the end of the game to tie it (like what happened with the Ravens).  Thankfully we had some time left to work with (and 3 timeouts).   

Absolutely McDermott is not foolproof 

 

He absolutely did tighten up in the Ravens game last year.. hopefully he learned from it 

 

And harbaugh is a really good coach.. I probably would have tightened up with a 15-point lead with 5 minutes left too

 

A lot of coaches are wired like that

 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

The interesting thing to me is that IIRC McDermott tightened up similarly in the second half of the playoff game and let the Ravens back in a bit by being somewhat conservative.  So maybe Harbaugh and McDermott coach similarly with a sizeable lead?  And perhaps true of a lot of coaches?

 

It's also interesting to me that we missed a 2-pt conversion near the end of the game to tie it (like what happened with the Ravens).  Thankfully we had some time left to work with (and 3 timeouts).   

I think Harbaugh had more faith in his veteran corner acquisitions than he probably should’ve and they were very ill equipped to flood the field with dbs late…it should’ve been even harder for the bills to work the deep areas of the field late and it very much wasn’t lol 

 

 

Edited September 8 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[GunnerBill]

Both happened. That is sports.

[Wolfgang]

 

[Jimmy Harris 69]

Baltimore became the first team since 2000 to lose after leading by 15 points with possession and under 10 minutes in regulation (those teams had been 53-0 coming into Sunday). ESPN had a stat: the record of teams losing by 15 with four minutes to go in a game historically was 3-2200 (approx). Buffalo won because they made plays in those four minutes and Baltimore failed in critical moments. Monken’s offense torched us all game, then he got conservative. Harbaugh should gone for the first down the last possession. Instead of trusting the unit that put up 40, he trusted the one that allowed the Bills back in the game.  Thank god the Bills have more faith in themselves, than I have in them. And thank Christ for Josh Allen.

[streetkings01]

Bills = 1-0

Ravens = 0-1

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, TheWei44 said:

The interesting thing to me is that IIRC McDermott tightened up similarly in the second half of the playoff game and let the Ravens back in a bit by being somewhat conservative.  So maybe Harbaugh and McDermott coach similarly with a sizeable lead?  And perhaps true of a lot of coaches?

 

It's also interesting to me that we missed a 2-pt conversion near the end of the game to tie it (like what happened with the Ravens).  Thankfully we had some time left to work with (and 3 timeouts).   

 

Same tree. Same foundation.

 

Sean McDermott

• Philadelphia Eagles (2002–2003)
  • Defensive assistant & quality control
• Philadelphia Eagles (2004–2006)
  • Assistant defensive backs coach
• Philadelphia Eagles (2007)
  • Linebackers coach
• Philadelphia Eagles (2008)
  • Defensive backs coach
• Philadelphia Eagles (2009–2010)
  • Defensive coordinator & defensive backs coach

John Harbaugh

• Philadelphia Eagles (1998–2006)
  • Special teams coordinator
• Philadelphia Eagles (2007)
  • Defensive backs coach

[BigAl2526]

36 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Both happened. However, I would like to point out that Derrick Henry did not "fumble the ball";  it was knocked out by Ed Oliver.

Yeah, it was a forced fumble any day of the week.  Henry is usually stronger than the guy trying to punch the ball out.  Not this time.

Edited September 8 by BigAl2526

[saundena]

Not taking anything away from our team, but sometimes the better team doesn't win.  The luckier team does. 

 

Both are top team in the NFL, but I think Baltimore was a little better for the most part.... BUT, as others have said, games are lost more than they are won.  Baltimore took their foot off the gas, Oliver made a play to spark our offense and Josh & Co. snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.  We certainly got lucky with some plays (tip TD to Coleman, the game winning FG wasn't blocked, the touch back, the non INT), but we also got screwed on some PI calls and of course the Josh 1st down slide that wasn't.  I think we had better luck in key moments and both our O and D did what they needed to in those key moments. 

 

Ravens win this game if they would have stayed concentrated, not take their foot off the gas and should have gone for it on 4th and 3.  Those were their mistakes and they cost them the game.

 

We're 1-0 and have a tie breaker.  It's a good day. 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

ravens lost that game

 

it's ok to admit 

That’s because we won, 😁🍸🚬

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

It has been interesting to see how many reactions to the game are focusing on how the Ravens managed to lose the game.  Not a lot of effort is given to crediting the Bills for their comeback.  Does it seem so to you?

We won

[wjag]

I'm no Einstein, but I think the unequivocal answer is both.  QED.

[GoBills808]

21 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

That’s because we won, 😁🍸🚬

W/L is all that really matters, true

 

It was a great result 

 

All I'm saying is it didn't tell me much about the team that I didn't already know