Pats release S Jabrill Peppers

[DC Grid]

18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

He isn't really a safety. He is a hybrid. Decent run player, good instincts, liability in coverage.

Liability in coverage?  He’s perfect for the Bills!!!

[YattaOkasan]

18 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Yup. He will be better than Mayo was for sure. Vrabel is a good coach, but I don’t think he’s some genius that’s gonna revolutionize the league. In Tennessee, he handed the ball to Derek Henry 400 times a year

Yeah he’s not gonna revolutionize anything. I still remember the 2019 game when they missed 3 FGs and were down to us 14-7 in TEN with 6:30 to go and it’s 4th and 4 from BUF 35. He trots santos out for a 53 yarder (his longest attempt of the day) after dude missed a 36 yard kick the drive before. There’s stubborn, then there’s rocks, then there’s Mike vrabel 

[billsfan_34]

20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

He isn't really a safety. He is a hybrid. Decent run player, good instincts, liability in coverage.

Would you still want him in the mix, considering how thin we are on the back end? Interested to hear your thoughts.

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Would you still want him in the mix, considering how thin we are on the back end? Interested to hear your thoughts.

 

As I said above I don't hate the idea but not something I'd avocate for particularly. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Just saw him at Ted’s 

[ngbills]

17 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Just saw him at Ted’s 

I saw him at Bill’s

[Sojourner]

30 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Just saw him at Ted’s 

 

12 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I saw him at Bill’s

Jabrill’s draft day was an excellent adventure, now it seems to be a Bogus Journey…

 

Who’s going to Face the Music?!

[Kaenon]

Can't believe there's already 6 pages on this!

[Capco]

On 8/29/2025 at 2:05 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

43’s the Mike!!! 

Ugh thanks for the awful flashbacks... lol.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 hour ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Just saw him at Ted’s 

 

48 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I saw him at Bill’s

 

34 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Jabrill’s draft day was an excellent adventure, now it seems to be a Bogus Journey…

 

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Lawyer Milloy Lite

[L Ron Burgundy]

19 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Yes I agree Hamlin is not the answer. Nor is Peppers. 

Maybe not the answer we're looking for but an improvement.   Should be cheap as hell too.

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Lawyer Milloy Lite

 

30 year old Lawyer Milloy was better than Jabrill Peppers in his prime. Comparing him at 30 to Milloy, even with the caveat of "Lite" is laughable.

Edited Saturday at 10:31 PM by BillsFanForever19

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Maybe not the answer we're looking for but an improvement.   Should be cheap as hell too.

 

And will be 30 in a month with eroding skills. And legal issues. No longer does returns. 

 

Hamlin isn't going anywhere. His contract is fully guaranteed and they trust him. Cole Bishop will start. And if he gets hurt or isn't working out, they also have Jordan Hancock waiting in the wings. Who they used at Safety a lot more than I was expecting this offseason and showed good things.

 

Hamlin is more of a depth piece with starting experience. Poyer is a break glass in case of emergency. There's even still Cam Lewis here as well. Our Safety room has more options than we did last year already.

 

Bishop needs his shot so we can figure out if he's the guy or not. We did the same thing with Terrel Bernard, who was also a complete unknown and coming off injuries. What if we had replaced him in the lineup before he ever got his shot?

 

We don't know if Bishop is or isn't the answer right now. But we have to find out and the only way to do that is to play him. He very well could be. But if he isn't, we already have veteran floor options with years of experience starting in this Defense and we'll evaluate Hancock's potential to possibly be the long term answer.

 

Hamlin won't be starting. But that's not good enough? I don't understand the obsession with getting him completely off the team. If you look around the league, you can do far worse than Damar Hamlin as a 3rd or 4th Safety on the roster. Yet anytime a Safety, literally anyone released, it's "better than Hamlin, git r dun!". I could understand not wanting him to start, but that's already not happening. I don't get obsessing over replacing him as a bench guy.

 

And if Peppers is such a no brainer and such an upgrade, why would he come here to be a Backup?

Edited Saturday at 11:25 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Dunkirk Donski]

5 hours ago, Kaenon said:

Can't believe there's already 6 pages on this!

Ertz thread was my favorite.  These things last awhile my friend 

[Thurman#1]

On 8/30/2025 at 2:41 AM, Success said:

 

I think he's a bit overrated.  He'll be a good culture guy there, but as a coach, I think he's kind of middlin'.  He benefitted greatly when the Titans had those good years from having excellent coordinators, and Tannehill playing the best football of his life.

 

 

 

Disagree on Vrabel, unfortunately.

 

I think he's going to make them good pretty quickly. Whether they will become better than that will largely depend on Maye, I think, and how good he actually is.

 

Edited Sunday at 11:19 AM by Thurman#1

[frostbitmic]

He'd have to learn the McD Defense ... He won't be ready until this time next year.

[chris heff]

4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Disagree on Vrabel, unfortunately.

 

I think he's going to make them good pretty quickly. Whether they will become better than that will largely depend on Maye, I think, and how good he actually is.

 

Why? Vrabel’s last two seasons as a head coach he went 7-10 and 6-11. If McDermott did that everyone would be calling for his head, not anointing him.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Why? Vrabel’s last two seasons as a head coach he went 7-10 and 6-11. If McDermott did that everyone would be calling for his head, not anointing him.

 

McD had TWO years worth of wins last season while masterfully losing the finale last year to “only” have 13 wins…..and some people are just waiting to pounce. 

[Sojourner]

21 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Why? Vrabel’s last two seasons as a head coach he went 7-10 and 6-11. If McDermott did that everyone would be calling for his head, not anointing him.

Whilst I agree with you on a standpoint, the team overall itself wasn’t exactly the same as Vrabel had. 
 

Talent level for those Titans was akin to what McD was working with during his first two; 9-7 & 6-10

 

Helps when you have a GM in synch with your vision and the QB to boot. 
 

This Pat team, whilst it doesn’t have the record from last year to show, is certainly above what he had in Tennessee. I’ll give him 2 years to judge whether it was solely the roster in during those 2 seasons or the combination of both Vrabel’s coaching ability and the team sheets.