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19 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Crazy that the Spurs drafted a player 1st overall at age 22 knowing he wasn't gonna be able to play for 2 seasons. Not sure if that would happen in today's NBA or any of the major leagues. But Robinson had a Hall of Fame Career so it was the right decision to wait the 2 years. 

 

The Cowboys drafted Roger Staubach in the 10th round of the 1964 NFL Draft from the Naval Academy.   They had to wait five years for Staubach to complete his service, but I'm sure they thought the future HOFer was worth the wait.

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1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

The Cowboys drafted Roger Staubach in the 10th round of the 1964 NFL Draft from the Naval Academy.   They had to wait five years for Staubach to complete his service, but I'm sure they thought the future HOFer was worth the wait.

 

10th round pick is different than a 1st overall pick. I think teams would be more than willing to throw a late round pick on a player if they gotta wait but a 1st overall pick and you won't see the guy play for at least 2 years is quite the gamble. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Pete said:

No he is not.  Ciarlo ran a 4.56.  Damar ran a 4.6.

 

Damar is 6’1 195

Ciarlo 6’ 229

 

Ciarlo has an elite 3 cone score.

 

Damar had 18 reps, Ciarlo 34

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Hamlin's 3 cone was better, but he was graded as a defensive back not a linebacker. An elite 3 cone for an LB isn't an elite 3 cone for a DB.

 

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Good football player, may or may not have NFL talent but clearly knows how to play the game.  Players like him are always fascinating to me, they demonstrate how much of a physical specimen you have to be in order to play in the NFL.  He's a very large, insanely athletic dude by normal-person standards and there's a good chance he just can't hack it against NFL 1s and 2s.

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On 8/20/2025 at 10:19 AM, That's No Moon said:

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Hamlin's 3 cone was better, but he was graded as a defensive back not a linebacker. An elite 3 cone for an LB isn't an elite 3 cone for a DB.

 

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The colors aren’t matching the measurement score itself. Not even remotely. 
 

Minor differences have either drastic positive or negative RAS…

 

For instance a faster 40 for Hamlin is graded lower than a slower one on the Athletic Scoring. 
 

Millimeter height difference is a 3.3 RAS difference?

 

Their 3 cone scores are almost identical, splitting hairs, but 1.09 lower for Hamlin? 

Shuttle is no difference. One decimal place for Hamlin (4.4) vs. (4.35) for Ciarlo… is Hamlin rounded up or down? Either way, 5 whole points for a minute difference is bizarre. 
 

Not saying Hamlin is one thing or not but if you’re defining it specifically by position, that’s perplexing when the overall sizes are not far off each group and you’re testing general athleticism.

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37 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Not saying Hamlin is one thing or not but if you’re defining it specifically by position, that’s bizarre when the overall sizes are not far off each group. 

Take it up with the people who make the scores.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Sojourner said:


The colors aren’t matching the measurement score itself. Not even remotely. 
 

Minor differences have either drastic positive or negative RAS…

 

For instance a faster 40 for Hamlin is graded lower than a slower one on the Athletic Scoring. 
 

Millimeter height difference is a 3.3 RAS difference?

 

Their 3 cone scores are almost identical, splitting hairs, but 1.09 lower for Hamlin? 

Shuttle is no difference. One decimal place for Hamlin (4.4) vs. (4.35) for Ciarlo… is Hamlin rounded up or down? Either way, 5 whole points for a minute difference is bizarre. 
 

Not saying Hamlin is one thing or not but if you’re defining it specifically by position, that’s perplexing when the overall sizes are not far off each group and you’re testing general athleticism.

Might it be because Jimmy is graded as LB and Damar is graded as DB? 

 

It is relative athletic score, as in relative to other people in that position group, yes?

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Posted
7 hours ago, Sojourner said:


The colors aren’t matching the measurement score itself. Not even remotely. 
 

Minor differences have either drastic positive or negative RAS…

 

For instance a faster 40 for Hamlin is graded lower than a slower one on the Athletic Scoring. 
 

Millimeter height difference is a 3.3 RAS difference?

 

Their 3 cone scores are almost identical, splitting hairs, but 1.09 lower for Hamlin? 

Shuttle is no difference. One decimal place for Hamlin (4.4) vs. (4.35) for Ciarlo… is Hamlin rounded up or down? Either way, 5 whole points for a minute difference is bizarre. 
 

Not saying Hamlin is one thing or not but if you’re defining it specifically by position, that’s perplexing when the overall sizes are not far off each group and you’re testing general athleticism.

Spencer Brown wasn’t a high RAS specimen because they were comparing him to WRs my man.

Posted
11 hours ago, rusty shackleford said:

Probably won’t make the roster, but may have just played himself onto someone’s team tonight. Our practice squad as a worst case for him.

 

Every time I see this kids (err, 2 games) he has played well.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Every time I see this kids (err, 2 games) he has played well.

Agreed. I prefer we try and PS him and keep 5 LBs this season- but if we keep 6, he’s on the roster.  Ulofoshio seems like a good kid….but he’s done nothing

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