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  • Draconator changed the title to It's Sauce Gardner's turn. Extended through 2030, $120 Million.
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 I am just gonna put it out there... thats a lot of money to commit to a player that honestly is all world talented but really seems to be a bit of a physical and mentally injured problem...  obviously the Jets feel different. I am feeling like he is turning into a bit of a head case... that will likely get worse if the Jets dont get better. 

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6 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This team is going to stupid themselves out of the market for a Qb

The plan is to draft a QB in a year or 2 with key players locked up while the QB is on a rookie contract for at least 3 years.  Not a bad plan if they find the right QB, but the last time the Jets drafted the right QB was 2000 when they drafted Chad Pennington, and even then it was the same year NE drafted Tom Brady 5 rounds later. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

No surprise here. They locked up two key players going forward that they can build around. 

In the year twenty five twenty five, if man is still alive....

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This move and yesterday's move puts them squarely in Dick Jauron territory for the next few years

Just good enough for a few wins against the real bottom feeders, but no QB - and thus, a very low ceiling

Plus, maxing out against the cap just to chase mediocrity

 

It's wonderful being in a division with the Jets and Dolphins having similar roster-building philosophies

The Pats deserve at least 12 more years of mediocrity too

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29 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Christian Benford - $17.5m per year.

Sauce Gardner - $30.1m per year.

 

I like the Benford value more.

 

This is the advantage of the McD scheme that everyone hates so much. You don’t need the Uber Expensive lockdown cover CB’s, so you can afford the rest of the team. 

 

 

EDIT: To be fair, those overly soft cushions kill me too. 

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Am I crazy to think he's overrated?

Am I also crazy to think he has an invisibility cloak that allows him to CONSTANTLY get away with committing holding and DPI penalties without the refs noticing?

Is it because he has a cool nickname? If he was called Frank Smith, would he still get the accolades and the bag he just got?

Whatever. Wake me when Woody Johnson is gone or they have a quarterback.

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I didn’t watch every snap or even every Jets game but I came away thinking that Gardiner was a player whose reputation was better than what I saw on the field.  He didn’t exactly blow me away in year 3

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37 minutes ago, Gregg said:

No surprise here. They locked up two key players going forward that they can build around. 

 

Ehh, I dont think you build around WRs and CBs. If you arent going to have a QB, you start building the trenches imo.

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Am I crazy to think he's overrated?

Am I also crazy to think he has an invisibility cloak that allows him to CONSTANTLY get away with committing holding and DPI penalties without the refs noticing?

Is it because he has a cool nickname? If he was called Frank Smith, would he still get the accolades and the bag he just got?

Whatever. Wake me when Woody Johnson is gone or they have a quarterback.

He is holding wide receivers all the time! And when the refs start calling that his effectiveness goes way down

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22 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

This is the advantage of the McD scheme that everyone hates so much. You don’t need the Uber Expensive lockdown cover CB’s, so you can afford the rest of the team. 

Eh, not sure this is really accurate.

 

The Bills drafted an elite CB in the first round and paid him elite CB money. They have spent 2 first round picks on CBs in the last 4 drafts to replace him.

 

McD is very good at scheming up/hiding CB2’s. I think they really like uber expensive CBs if they are elite.

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4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ehh, I dont think you build around WRs and CBs. If you arent going to have a QB, you start building the trenches imo.

 

The Jets in recent drafts have been building the OL. Their DL is decent as well. They don't have a QB as Fields is on his 3rd team already. I guess the plan is to get one in the draft next year.

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4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ehh, I dont think you build around WRs and CBs. If you arent going to have a QB, you start building the trenches imo.

These guys are already on the team and they don’t want them demanding trades when they draft a rookie QB high and start a rebuild.

 

Theres nothing stopping the Jets from drafting a QB and then loading up on the lines next year now. They have an offensive and defensive cornerstone locked up for the foreseeable future. 
 

I think Sauce is supremely overrated and I thought he quit on the team last year. He’s still very good.

 

Letting Wilson and or Sauce walk and then drafting their replacements high in the next year or two feels very drought Billsy.

 

This is not ideal for the Bills imo.

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2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Eh, not sure this is really accurate.

 

The Bills drafted an elite CB in the first round and paid him elite CB money. They have spent 2 first round picks on CBs in the last 4 drafts to replace him.

 

McD is very good at scheming up/hiding CB2’s. I think they really like uber expensive CBs if they are elite.

 

I’m talking about 2nd contracts, not draft status. I think they use a different scheme and don’t need a guy who commands $30mil+. As evidence I present the signing of Benford as our #1 CB at about half the price of Gardner. Sure, everyone would LOVE a lockdown CB, but I think they are happy with the approach they have shown us. 

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