All Draught Team Bills vs the 2025 Bills

[hondo in seattle]

37 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Tyrod would be ineligible since he was the one that ended the draught. 

 

I think people on here are kinda sleeping on Drew Bledsoe. Guy had his weaknesses for sure, but if you put him on the all-draught team with a strong O-line throwing to those weapons he'd be great. 

 

Here's my problem with Bledsoe...

 

His first year with the Bills (2002), he averaged 284 ypg before the bye.  After the bye, only 204 ydg.  

In his next two seasons with us, he averaged less than 200 ypg.  

 

He had one half of a good season with us. 

 

But he probably would have done better with the Drought All-Star roster.  

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

@Royale with Cheese does the winner of the Drought Bills vs 2025 Bills game go on to play the All Bulge team?

[Royale with Cheese]

51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

@Royale with Cheese does the winner of the Drought Bills vs 2025 Bills game go on to play the All Bulge team?

 

The All Bulge Team has to wear white pants and there has to be rain in the forecast.  

[eball]

On 7/12/2025 at 3:18 PM, Gunsgoodtime said:

Allen makes all the difference, this is why I am very low on our coach and gm.  I dont see what they have accomplished as being a success, but a failure considering who they are lucky enough to have.  Josh Allen and 0 Sb appearances?  That's a failure in my eyes, and if they don't get it done it will be the legacy of McDermott and Beane, hit the the lottery, blew the money and nothing to show for it due to bad purchases (free agents and draft picks)  and decision making (McDermott).  Btw we had some great players during the drought era that we most certainly could use today, our roster outside of Allen is not great, which goes back to my blowing the money analogy 

 

Don Shula is arguably one of the top 5 coaches of all time.  He went to ONE Super Bowl with Dan Marino, and it was Marino's second season I think?  ONE.

 

Fans who put everything on that one game appearance or trophy just don't get it.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

The All Bulge Team has to wear white pants and there has to be rain in the forecast.  

 

Great team but they tend to shrink in cold weather games.

[Royale with Cheese]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Great team but they tend to shrink in cold weather games.

 

Yes and yes.

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Don Shula is arguably one of the top 5 coaches of all time.  He went to ONE Super Bowl with Dan Marino, and it was Marino's second season I think?  ONE.

 

Fans who put everything on that one game appearance or trophy just don't get it.

 

Don Shula also has a perfect season and won two super bowls in the 70s

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Don Shula is arguably one of the top 5 coaches of all time.  He went to ONE Super Bowl with Dan Marino, and it was Marino's second season I think?  ONE.

 

Fans who put everything on that one game appearance or trophy just don't get it.

 

 

This also supports my point above about expecting multiple SB victories with Josh. It's tough enough to get just one.

[Gunsgoodtime]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Don Shula is arguably one of the top 5 coaches of all time.  He went to ONE Super Bowl with Dan Marino, and it was Marino's second season I think?  ONE.

 

Fans who put everything on that one game appearance or trophy just don't get it.

 

The goal is to win the Superbowl for every team every year, no matter what fans think. Winning the division means nothing more than you are 1 steo closer to your goal, in which they have failed at, with one of the best players to play football at the m9st important position.  Fans who say otherwise get participation trophies

[Brand J]

Roster for roster, aside from QB, the All Drought team is a little more talented at the starting positions with A LOT more depth. If we hit on the young players we’re relying on this year and players like Bosa and Milano stay healthy and return to form, the gap will close considerably. If the All Drought team beats the 2025 Bills, I think it’s due to turnovers and flukey plays. If the 2025 Bills win it’s because they have a future HoFer at QB. Head to head over 17 games, give me the 2025 Bills, 14 games to 3.

[Buffalo ill]

I wonder how many folks saying Josh is too good to loose vs the stacked drought team also say "he can't do it by himself" when the Bills make their yearly playoff exit at the hands of KC.

[BigDingus]

It genuinely feels weird to leave Kyle Williams off the drought team, just because he made it to the playoffs 1 out of his 13 seasons. 

 

But that aside, I think the current Bills win just because better QB + better coaching staff, but if you removed even just McDermott & Brady, the drought team wins.

 

The drought team's defense was good enough in individual seasons to hold prime Peyton Manning & Aaron Rodgers down, so I think they'd create a ton of pressure.

[without a drought]

I don't get it. 

[DapperCam]

I think a drought All-Star team vs the current Bills would actually be a pretty close game, probably low scoring.

 

The defense would be insane, and the offense would have better skill players. Offensive line would be similar and QB would be a big difference. I’d say 23-17 current Bills win.

[TheBrownBear]

Close call, but I'll take 2002 Bledsoe and the rest of the drought all stars.  You could field an absolutely insane defense with the drought guys (Mario, Schobel, Adams, Fletcher, Spikes, Clements, McGee, Vincent, Milloy, McKelvin, etc).  Offensive skill guys have some firepower with Fred, Henry, Lynch, McGahee, Spiller, Evans, T.O., Stevie, Sammy.  Besides coaching (and QB of course), I think the biggest drought weakness is offensive line, but you still have Jason Peters and quality lineman like Wood and Levitre.  

Edited July 15 by TheBrownBear

[NoHuddleKelly12]

the all-draughts might take the jersey crown, but give me Josh Allen any day to make a good apple pie out of clam chowder ingredients for the win any day! 🤗

[billsfan89]

The Bills 2004 defense and special teams combined with some hodge podge of the best offensive players (Jason Peters at LT, Lee Evan, Fred Jackson/Lynch, etc) from the drought era would probably at best make for a team that in their era could probably win 11-13 regular season games and with some luck get to the AFCCG. That's how terrible this organization was. The 2004 defense was a top 3 unit in the NFL and the best offensive talent from a 16 year period could probably put together an above average to good unit. I would genuinely take this years team over the drought all stars it was that bad.

[JP51]

30 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

The Bills 2004 defense and special teams combined with some hodge podge of the best offensive players (Jason Peters at LT, Lee Evan, Fred Jackson/Lynch, etc) from the drought era would probably at best make for a team that in their era could probably win 11-13 regular season games and with some luck get to the AFCCG. That's how terrible this organization was. The 2004 defense was a top 3 unit in the NFL and the best offensive talent from a 16 year period could probably put together an above average to good unit. I would genuinely take this years team over the drought all stars it was that bad.

I agree, and I hear the banter of the all star team... and who knows with these things. Maybe they are right, Rocky Marciano may have beat Ali... lol... but here is why i believe dominate the all stars. 

 

1. You are taking a group of players that many have never played together in their first year as a team and pitting them against a cohesive team that perennially advances in the playoffs... that rarely works out well for the allstars

2. Your head coaching despite the mixed MCDermott reviews would be quite inferior thinking Jauron, Rex, Mularkey, St Doug, Gailey et all... 

3. The QB situation means everything to me and the difference is drastic... Extolling the virtues of a statue in Bledsoe doesnt help

4. This current team goes for about 13 wins in the current NFL with current players and current team... Best all drought team won 9 games. Why we would we expect a different performance against a Bills all star team that really would be their first year together in many instances

5. Non quantifiable but many believe that the performance of athletes trend up over time as they incorporate diet, training methods etc... they become faster stronger etc.... I am not sure athletes from 15-20 years ago perform in todays NFL in the same manner... but who knows... 

6. Lastly, this team knows how to win at least in the regular season... those drought teams averaged about 6 or 7 mins.  This to me as far as team, locker room, handling of pressure etc... is big... 

 

So, I know there are differences here, I think one person called me absurd lol for thinking the Bills would have a similar regulars season record as they do typically in their performance against a newly formed Bills all star team...  who knows maybe they are right... they would be worse... but I just dont see it.

 

Edited July 15 by JP51

[vincec]

On 7/11/2025 at 11:47 AM, Mat68 said:

Offense

 

Qb. Fitz, Bledsoe, Orton

 

Rb, Lynch, Jackson, Spiller

 

WR Evans, Johnson, Price, Woods, Watkins

 

TE Chandler, Royal

 

OT Peters, Glenn, Jennings

 

OG Incognito, Levitre, 

 

C Wood

 

Defense

 

Edge Williams, Schobel, Kelsay

 

DT Adams, Dareus, 

 

LB Cowart, Fletcher, Spikes

 

CB Clements, Winfield, Mcgee

 

S Byrd, Whitner, Wilson

 

I think Allen is such a difference at Qb.  The current roster has a better Oline and think are close everywhere else.  

Gotta add Gilmore at CB- Kick McGee to backup CB and KR. Also, where’s TO?

 

That defense would be nasty. Gilmore on one side, Clements on the other with Winfield in the slot? Plus that front seven and Schwartz calling the shots? Good luck.

[vincec]

10 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

The Bills 2004 defense and special teams combined with some hodge podge of the best offensive players (Jason Peters at LT, Lee Evan, Fred Jackson/Lynch, etc) from the drought era would probably at best make for a team that in their era could probably win 11-13 regular season games and with some luck get to the AFCCG. That's how terrible this organization was. The 2004 defense was a top 3 unit in the NFL and the best offensive talent from a 16 year period could probably put together an above average to good unit. I would genuinely take this years team over the drought all stars it was that bad.

Talent wise, that all star team would be plenty good enough to win a championship. The only question is coaching. Personally, I think Chan at HC/OC with Schwartz at DC would get it done but I can understand the doubters.
 

There’s no way this year’s team beats them. Maybe 1 time out of 10.  You aren’t running against the all-drought front 7 from page 1 and I’m not sure which current WR is getting open with Gilmore, Clements and Winfield in coverage. On the other side, the all-drought OL would road grate the current defense with Lynch and Jackson carrying the rock. People say Bledsoe is weak and granted, he’s not nearly as good as Allen, but he’s did make the pro bowl in 2002. Plus which current CB is going to cover TO?

 

I’m not sure there’s a franchise out there where their current team would beat an all star team of their best players for nearly two decades. The all-drought teams weren’t even that bad. That was part of the problem. There were always stuck between 6 and 8 wins.