stuvian Posted September 2 Posted September 2 I've been waiting the entire offseason for this list to come out...said no one Quote
SCBills Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Eagles have like half the Top 100 and the #1 player… who isn’t Jalen Hurts. It’s always fun when people try to sneak him into the Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow group. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 18 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: The idea that somehow Lamar is better than both Allen and Mahomes is laughable. It's laughable to me that fans get so upset and offended anytime anyone lists a single Quarterback above ours. We have someone who is listed as #3 Player in ALL of the NFL across all positions and just won the MVP award. Many list him as the #1 Quarterback in all the NFL. Yet it's always considered some sort of slight when someone prefers a different Quarterback - even if they still list Josh as #2 or #3. How spoiled we've become. Edited September 2 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
BRH Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Bengals have three guys in the top 15 and didn’t make the playoffs. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted September 2 Posted September 2 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's laughable to me that fans get so upset and offended anytime anyone lists a single Quarterback above ours. We have someone who is listed as #3 Player in ALL of the NFL across all positions and just won the MVP award. Many list him as the #1 Quarterback in all the NFL. Yet it's always considered some sort of slight when someone prefers a different Quarterback - even if they still list Josh as #2 or #3. How spoiled we've become. It’s simply perspective. Allen has been great in both the regular season and postseason in recent years. Mahomes has been meh, but is lights out against our trash bag playoff defense when it matters. Lamar is typically the most statistically dominant regular season QB but falters in the playoffs. I can’t put the guy who falters in the playoffs over the guy that is great in the regular season and doesnt choke in the postseason. Lamar has had the best roster in the AFC 3 years in a row. And he is part of the reason they haven’t made the Super Bowl. 3 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted September 2 Posted September 2 10 Eagles made the list?!?! It’s nice being the Super Bowl champs I guess. Perhaps it’s my bitterness, but does Josh Sweat and Cooper DeJean really belong in this list? That being said, I do actually agree with Saquon being #1 1 Quote
Virgil Posted September 2 Posted September 2 How the hell Lamar is over Josh?! I’m sorry, I don’t care about these lists, but cmon…. I would take Josh over Lamar 10 times out of 10. Lamar still hasn’t proven he can show up big in the playoffs or if he has to throw more than 40 times in a game. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 49 minutes ago, SCBills said: It’s simply perspective. Allen has been great in both the regular season and postseason in recent years. Mahomes has been meh, but is lights out against our trash bag playoff defense when it matters. Lamar is typically the most statistically dominant regular season QB but falters in the playoffs. I can’t put the guy who falters in the playoffs over the guy that is great in the regular season and doesnt choke in the postseason. Lamar has had the best roster in the AFC 3 years in a row. And he is part of the reason they haven’t made the Super Bowl. Removing the homer hat and being brutally honest, I don't think fans or players of the NFL outside of Bills fans and players make much distinction between Lamar and the Ravens usually going out in Round 1 or Round 2 of the Playoffs and Josh and the Bills more often going out in Round 2 or Round 3. Josh getting a game closer than Lamar more often isn't the own we think it is outside of Western NY. Josh and the Bills not being able to get over the hump is often more of a story than Lamar bc we always get so close and consistently lose to the same team. The narrative nationwide is pretty much the same. Neither man has been able to get to the Super Bowl. Edited September 2 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2 Posted September 2 12 minutes ago, Virgil said: How the hell Lamar is over Josh?! To make up for not winning MVP last year. Quote
SCBills Posted September 2 Posted September 2 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: To be brutally honest, I don't think fans or players of the NFL outside of Bills fans and players make much distinction between Lamar and the Ravens consistently losing in Round 1 or Round 2 of the Playoffs and Josh and the Bills going out in Round 2 or Round 3. Josh getting a game closer than Lamar more often isn't the own we think it is outside of Western NY. The narrative nationwide is the same. Josh and the Bills not being able to get over the hump is often more of a story than Lamar bc we always get so close and consistently lose to the Chiefs. Lamar absolutely has a playoff issue narrative. Even ESPN goes there when discussing him vs Allen and Mahomes. Quote
julian Posted September 2 Posted September 2 14 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: To be brutally honest, I don't think fans or players of the NFL outside of Bills fans and players make much distinction between Lamar and the Ravens consistently losing in Round 1 or Round 2 of the Playoffs and Josh and the Bills going out in Round 2 or Round 3. Josh getting a game closer than Lamar more often isn't the own we think it is outside of Western NY. Josh and the Bills not being able to get over the hump is often more of a story than Lamar bc we always get so close and consistently lose to the Chiefs. The narrative nationwide is pretty much the same. Neither man has been able to get to the Super Bowl. I think it’s more about Lamar’s performance in the playoffs and less about when they lose, imo. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Lamar absolutely has a playoff issue narrative. Even ESPN goes there when discussing him vs Allen and Mahomes. I never said there isn't. I'm simply saying there isn't much of a distinction between that narrative and our own on a nationwide level. And there's absolutely a playoff narrative with Josh and the Bills too. You're just focusing on Lamar and ignoring the constant "they just can't beat the Chiefs" - which is just as loud. Edited September 2 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
SCBills Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I never said there isn't. I'm simply saying there isn't much of a distinction between that narrative and our own on a nationwide level. And there's absolutely a playoff narrative with Josh and the Bills too. You're just focusing on Lamar and ignoring the constant "they just can't beat the Chiefs" - which is just as loud. Yes.. “They can’t beat the Chiefs” ”Lamar struggles in the playoffs” Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 4 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Go Bills! Awesome to see you congratulate and celebrate rather than obsess that he's *only* #3 instead of 1 or 2. 1 4 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yes.. “They can’t beat the Chiefs” ”Lamar struggles in the playoffs” And Josh is lumped in with "they". I'm simply saying, outside of the Buffalo fanbase, there isn't this grand distinction you think that exists that definitively proves Josh is better and should be above Lamar on every list. If there were, Lamar wouldn't get the accolades he gets over Josh or ever be put above Josh. In the end, neither QB has reached the dance, let alone hoisted a trophy. And that's what it ultimately comes down to that keeps the argument alive. Edited September 2 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
MJS Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Lamar Jackson is the NFL's sacred cow. Can't have him ranked lower than the MVP, haha. 2 2 2 1 Quote
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