Sierra Foothills Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, T master said: they wait knowing that the person may have a future with some kind of wealth involved then all of the sudden .SURPRISE Remember that night we had rough sex and I liked it, guess what - I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FOR THAT ONE NIGHT because now you make a lot of money and I want some ... Gold digger !! 7 minutes ago, Doc said: The likelihood she didn't know he was a 3-star football recruit is low. So not a "nobody." Hairston was a 17 year old Freshman at that big football factory... Kentucky. He weighed 170 lbs. According to an AI query, about 5-6% of 3-star recruits make the NFL. This is prime gold country? 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I, for one, never liked the pick. Slight build, not physical... and (guilty or not) character concerns stemming from the SA allegations. If this SA issue blows over, can he stay healthy? Color me concerned. Would've preferred a LB, Schwesinger or Campbell, or if CB was a must then perhaps Will Johnson or Amos in the 2nd... but imo LB was as much a need as CB and there were a few good ones on the board at 30. If Milano goes down again and TB misses some time (as he always does) could be tough sledding again for the run defense. 1 1 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 6 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: To beat the chiefs you have to be the chiefs Ok this was funny...nice work 2 Quote
Nuncha Posted July 3 Posted July 3 On 7/2/2025 at 9:23 AM, HappyDays said: Not only was he not charged, the matter was investigated and dropped due to lack of evidence. The girl has posted on social media about it several times over the years but there has never been any corroborating evidence, so I don't know what she or the law firm are expecting to happen here. I would guess they're hoping for a quick settlement. She wants a quick money grab. That's it. 1 2 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 3 Posted July 3 5 hours ago, T master said: If the person that was allegedly assaulted was a respectable person you would think that this would have been common knowledge ASAP after the assault in all cases but that's not what they do they wait knowing that the person may have a future with some kind of wealth involved then all of the sudden . SURPRISE Remember that night we had rough sex and I liked it, guess what - I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FOR THAT ONE NIGHT because now you make a lot of money and I want some ... Gold digger !! spoken exactly like a guy who has never had a sister mother friend or GF sexually assaulted. It is Precisely due to folks who think like you that women fear going forward.. doubts Doubts DOUBTS always. without any basis but a post on a message board. you are calling her out Bully for you. @-@ SMH 4 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted July 3 Posted July 3 22 minutes ago, Nuncha said: She wants a quick money grab. That's it. This is equally as bad as people assuming Hairston is guilty. 5 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) I think Im done with this conversation. Good grief. She may be a Liar she may Not be a Liar. You have it allll figured out. Great 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: This is equally as bad as people assuming Hairston is guilty. you may as well bail. The court of TBD brethren in partial numbers have spoken . I'm done. not worth my time SMH Edited July 3 by muppy 3 Quote
Augie Posted July 3 Posted July 3 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is equally as bad as people assuming Hairston is guilty. I don’t know why there seems to be an urge to be on one side or the other. How about….we sit in the middle until we know more? How is that for a novel approach? I’ve never met either of these people. I’ll wait and see what comes out. And for the record, I think what we learn will probably still be more gray than black and white. 4 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted July 3 Posted July 3 14 minutes ago, muppy said: spoken exactly like a guy who has never had a sister mother friend or GF Could stop right there for a lot of these guys. I sure hope none of them have daughters either. 2 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 21 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t know why there seems to be an urge to be on one side or the other. How about….we sit in the middle until we know more? How is that for a novel approach? I’ve never met either of these people. I’ll wait and see what comes out. And for the record, I think what we learn will probably still be more gray than black and white. Someone should look in on you ! Entirely too Zen of a perspective for me : -) 1 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I think it is wait and see what the League does. Hoping he is not terribly distracted form his work ! Quote
FLFan Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, muppy said: I think Im done with this conversation. Good grief. She may be a Liar she may Not be a Liar. You have it allll figured out. Great you may as well bail. The court of TBD brethren in partial numbers have spoken . I'm done. not worth my time SMH Just to be safe, make sure you wash up thoroughly after leaving this thread. 1 1 Quote
Wallymo Posted July 3 Posted July 3 9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: But, suing someone because you failed in an attempt at criminal charges has never seemed appropriate to me. Nor in my opinion, is it the intent of the law. There are different standards of proof in a criminal versus civil proceeding. Beyond a reasonable doubt is a higher standard than more than likely. If assault can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, should criminal charges not be sought at all (and therefore not fail) and only a civil action brought? Particularly in a "he said / she said" matter? I'm not trying to be critical, I just don't follow the logic. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Augie said: I don’t know why there seems to be an urge to be on one side or the other. How about….we sit in the middle until we know more? How is that for a novel approach? I’ve never met either of these people. I’ll wait and see what comes out. And for the record, I think what we learn will probably still be more gray than black and white. This is exactly correct. Only 2 people were present and it's possible that even they don't know definitively what happened. Wiser people will withhold judgement and let the outcome play out but I agree that we're likely to never know any more than we do now. Mostly it's bizarre and disappointing how many people believe they know what happened and feel like they have to judge one individual or the other. 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 5 hours ago, pi2000 said: I, for one, never liked the pick. Slight build, not physical... and (guilty or not) character concerns stemming from the SA allegations. If this SA issue blows over, can he stay healthy? Color me concerned. Would've preferred a LB, Schwesinger or Campbell, or if CB was a must then perhaps Will Johnson or Amos in the 2nd... but imo LB was as much a need as CB and there were a few good ones on the board at 30. If Milano goes down again and TB misses some time (as he always does) could be tough sledding again for the run defense. ... Huh? We utilize 2 LB's. We just signed one of them to a long term contract in Terrel Bernard. And for the other spot, we have Matt Milano who has been showing improvement on a gradual basis since returning. Even if you're concerned about his health and long term future, we have Dorian Williams underneath him who we spent on a 3rd Round Pick on and performed admirably as a Starter for long periods of time and may be the long term starter at OLB. As for Bernard getting injured or Milano/Williams, you could play that game with almost any position. I don't see any way you could say LB was on equal ground as CB when all we had there was Tre White, Dane Jackson, and Ja'Marcus Ingram opposite Benford. You're concerned about Bernard and Milano/Williams if there was an injury but not concerned about Tre White starting on 2025? Quote
Augie Posted July 3 Posted July 3 5 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Hairston was a 17 year old Freshman at that big football factory... Kentucky. He weighed 170 lbs. According to an AI query, about 5-6% of 3-star recruits make the NFL. This is prime gold country? The post you quoted here starts with “they wait”. Anytime I hear “they” used like that it feels cringeworthy. Who is they, and who decided what buckets we would have? And who decides who goes in each bucket? 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted July 3 Posted July 3 7 hours ago, T master said: If the person that was allegedly assaulted was a respectable person you would think that this would have been common knowledge ASAP after the assault in all cases but that's not what they do they wait knowing that the person may have a future with some kind of wealth involved then all of the sudden . SURPRISE Remember that night we had rough sex and I liked it, guess what - I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FOR THAT ONE NIGHT because now you make a lot of money and I want some ... Gold digger !! You should familiarize yourself with timing of the original report before you speak further and make an even bigger ass of yourself. 1 1 1 4 Quote
uticaclub Posted July 4 Posted July 4 9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Could stop right there for a lot of these guys. I sure hope none of them have daughters either. Hope you don’t have a son falsey accused 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted July 4 Posted July 4 14 hours ago, Wallymo said: There are different standards of proof in a criminal versus civil proceeding. Beyond a reasonable doubt is a higher standard than more than likely. If assault can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, should criminal charges not be sought at all (and therefore not fail) and only a civil action brought? Particularly in a "he said / she said" matter? I'm not trying to be critical, I just don't follow the logic. The primary difference between a criminal versus civil proceeding is NOT the level of proof required. The difference is the nature of the remedy sought. A criminal case results in prison time. It is therefore in many ways considered a crime against society at large…meaning that if found guilty you are removed from society. A civil case results in monetary payment to the plaintiff. It’s therefore not considered a crime against society but solely against the plaintiff. If I’m not mistaken, a criminal case is brought by the State with a state/federal prosecutor representing society. A civil case is brought by a private plaintiff with an attorney representing only the accuser. Quote
T master Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) On 7/3/2025 at 3:09 PM, muppy said: spoken exactly like a guy who has never had a sister mother friend or GF sexually assaulted. It is Precisely due to folks who think like you that women fear going forward.. doubts Doubts DOUBTS always. without any basis but a post on a message board. you are calling her out Bully for you. @-@ SMH No not at all sorry but you're wrong !! If my sister would have something like that happen I would have IMMEDIATELY went right to the source and handled it the way we did when we grew up and every one would have known about it where ever it happened and we would have preceded from there not wait 4 years until the money comes in . I suppose it's just a coincidence that this person waited until he got drafted & signed his rookie deal as a first round draft pick knowing he was making exceptional money to only then make the accusation ? 🤔 Sounds to me like maybe this gals past needs to be looked into a bit more before she ruins a persons llife that couls all be based on her personal gain for her future . Which in today's world would not surprise me in the least !! That and the fact mommy & Daddy believe my little girl would never sleep around that's just not the way we raised her ... EDIT: once again my bad I took some time away from being on this site everyday like most of you so I could perform my job, which caused me to miss the info on this subject which you all now are crucifying me for but I'll try and do better just for you all ... Edited July 6 by T master 1 Quote
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