Chicken Boo Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) 8 hours ago, NewEra said: To each their own. Sure, more talent at WR would be nice. Having a defense that doesn’t give up an average of 33 points per game in season ending defeats would be nicer imo On this team, Barkley would have been a better and more cost-effective addition at the time that he was available. Micah, Trey, and Watt don't move the needle, in my opinion. Edited July 21 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote
Billl Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: On this team, Barkley would have been a better and more cost-effective addition at the time that he was available. Micah, Trey, and Watt don't move the needle, in my opinion. Maybe I’m misreading this. Are you saying that adding a top 5 pass rusher would be less impactful than adding Saquan? Cook played his ass off against the Chiefs whereas Saquan wasn’t really a factor. The reason the Eagles won is basically the same reason every time Kansas City loses. Their defensive line overwhelmed us. There’s simply no solution to that problem. The Texans did the same thing in the Divisional round, but their offense wasn’t good enough to take advantage of it. You don’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs by having a better RB. You beat him by planting him in the turf every time he drops back. 5 4 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 hours ago, Billl said: Maybe I’m misreading this. Are you saying that adding a top 5 pass rusher would be less impactful than adding Saquan? Cook played his ass off against the Chiefs whereas Saquan wasn’t really a factor. The reason the Eagles won is basically the same reason every time Kansas City loses. Their defensive line overwhelmed us. There’s simply no solution to that problem. The Texans did the same thing in the Divisional round, but their offense wasn’t good enough to take advantage of it. You don’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs by having a better RB. You beat him by planting him in the turf every time he drops back. I fully understand that line of thinking, but Allen and Barkley together is downright lethal. You can gameplan to take a single pass rusher out of the game. I don't think Hendrickson alone does it for Buffalo. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted July 21 Posted July 21 29 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I fully understand that line of thinking, but Allen and Barkley together is downright lethal. You can gameplan to take a single pass rusher out of the game. I don't think Hendrickson alone does it for Buffalo. It wouldn't be Hendrickson "alone" at all, given the presence of Joey Bosa, Greg Rousseau, AJ Epenesa, Landon Jackson, and Javon Solomon, plus Michael Hoecht, eventually. Hendrickson would be an incredible addition with 70.5 sacks over the past 5 seasons, and a career avg of 11.9 sacks per 17 games started, with 11 TFL, and 24 QB hits (vast majority of that production has come in last five seasons (of 8), peaking in 2024). He'd be a seismic addition, but of course one must acknowledge the fact that Trey Hendrickson is NOT getting traded to the Bills. How could the Bengals possibly justify such a move, short of a lopsided return of player(s) + pick(s) that would probably prevent it from happening at all. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 21 Posted July 21 15 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: It wouldn't be Hendrickson "alone" at all, given the presence of Joey Bosa, Greg Rousseau, AJ Epenesa, Landon Jackson, and Javon Solomon, plus Michael Hoecht, eventually. Hendrickson would be an incredible addition with 70.5 sacks over the past 5 seasons, and a career avg of 11.9 sacks per 17 games started, with 11 TFL, and 24 QB hits (vast majority of that production has come in last five seasons (of 8), peaking in 2024). He'd be a seismic addition, but of course one must acknowledge the fact that Trey Hendrickson is NOT getting traded to the Bills. How could the Bengals possibly justify such a move, short of a lopsided return of player(s) + pick(s) that would probably prevent it from happening at all. For the record, I don't expect a thing out of Joey Bosa and I don't expect Hendrick routinely getting 17 sacks per season going forward. You're right, it won't happen, but for the draft capital and money that it would take to potentially acquire him, ANYTHING less than a Super Bowl victory would be a failure. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/18/2025 at 7:50 PM, wppete said: We can’t. It is not possible. Not going to happen. We can. We won't. Theyre too conservative, and thats ok, but thats what it is. Cap has been booming year to year. We've retained our own and shelled out $$ to do so, but we've been incredibly reserved with our spending. Diggs is off the books completely, so is Von. The reality is we invested heavily in the defense and are going to hope we maximize our rookie talent. I believe that will work some.... but also believe we could find the $$. Lining him up across Groot not only makes Hendrickson a better weapon, but it amplifies Groot. We'd trade off some of our long term stability to do it, but thats what you save money for. A true difference maker. Me thinks Bengals are dumb/desperate enough to do it too!! (not saying we'll get him, but theyre dumb enough to send him to a conference rival [same with a certain red/yellow team]) 1 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 21 Posted July 21 https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-brown-i-think-well-get-trey-hendrickson-deal-done Mike brown really said regarding negotiations with Hendrickson that he gets emotional. That seems like a smart thing to say to the press in the middle of contentious negotiations 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Did not report to TC and is not even in cincy. He’s at home in Florida. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Anyone know if he has to show up for a certain number of game for the season to count? Or can he sit entire season and become FA next year when his contract runs out this year. Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 22 Posted July 22 On 7/20/2025 at 10:52 PM, Billl said: Maybe I’m misreading this. Are you saying that adding a top 5 pass rusher would be less impactful than adding Saquan? Cook played his ass off against the Chiefs whereas Saquan wasn’t really a factor. The reason the Eagles won is basically the same reason every time Kansas City loses. Their defensive line overwhelmed us. There’s simply no solution to that problem. The Texans did the same thing in the Divisional round, but their offense wasn’t good enough to take advantage of it. You don’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs by having a better RB. You beat him by planting him in the turf every time he drops back. Facts! And give Beane credit for recognizing this and adding a ton at CB and DL. I said this right after the game, still feel if Benford doesn't go down, we win and Beane loaded up on depth . It's crazy we had Elam (traded for a 6th) and Douglas, still a FA as our starting outside CBs, that cost us a SB appearance 15 hours ago, TBBills Fan said: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-brown-i-think-well-get-trey-hendrickson-deal-done Mike brown really said regarding negotiations with Hendrickson that he gets emotional. That seems like a smart thing to say to the press in the middle of contentious negotiations Wow.. I'd be heated if I was a Bungle fan 3 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: Facts! And give Beane credit for recognizing this and adding a ton at CB and DL. I said this right after the game, still feel if Benford doesn't go down, we win and Beane loaded up on depth . It's crazy we had Elam (traded for a 6th) and Douglas, still a FA as our starting outside CBs, that cost us a SB appearance Wow.. I'd be heated if I was a Bungle fan Yeah I just thought wow what a dumb ass for saying that 2 Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 22 Posted July 22 On 7/20/2025 at 9:33 PM, Chicken Boo said: On this team, Barkley would have been a better and more cost-effective addition at the time that he was available. Micah, Trey, and Watt don't move the needle, in my opinion. The first sentence is defensible, especially the cost-effective part. The second is not. 1 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 22 Posted July 22 https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/trey-hendrickson-i-was-more-than-willing-to-take-less-to-make-this-work Key takeaway in Hendrickson response "I WAS willing to take less". As in that ship has sailed. Good thing the Bengals have a good defense with depth 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) On 7/22/2025 at 5:54 PM, BarleyNY said: The first sentence is defensible, especially the cost-effective part. The second is not. What have they done for their respective teams? 2 didn't even make the playoffs. The Bills ran AT Micah for Cook's 200 yard game. Edited July 26 by Chicken Boo 1 1 Quote
H2o Posted July 26 Posted July 26 On 7/22/2025 at 7:58 PM, TBBills Fan said: Good thing the Bengals have a good defense with depth 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) On 7/21/2025 at 5:11 PM, Chicken Boo said: For the record, I don't expect a thing out of Joey Bosa and I don't expect Hendrick routinely getting 17 sacks per season going forward. You're right, it won't happen, but for the draft capital and money that it would take to potentially acquire him, ANYTHING less than a Super Bowl victory would be a failure. Von Miller says hi. Right player but wrong time. Bills were an incomplete teams in some ways Now? I might have taken Hendrickson with the financial burden across from Gregg. Bills are a whole team now. Coaches and players alike. It's rare , but 1 Beast player at DE can be a game changer with a supporting staff Edited July 26 by 3rdand12 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 On 7/21/2025 at 5:14 PM, BillsShredder83 said: We can. We won't. Theyre too conservative, and thats ok, but thats what it is. Cap has been booming year to year. We've retained our own and shelled out $$ to do so, but we've been incredibly reserved with our spending. Diggs is off the books completely, so is Von. The reality is we invested heavily in the defense and are going to hope we maximize our rookie talent. I believe that will work some.... but also believe we could find the $$. Lining him up across Groot not only makes Hendrickson a better weapon, but it amplifies Groot. We'd trade off some of our long term stability to do it, but thats what you save money for. A true difference maker. Me thinks Bengals are dumb/desperate enough to do it too!! (not saying we'll get him, but theyre dumb enough to send him to a conference rival [same with a certain red/yellow team]) Once we got Bosa , I felt Beane was done working the phones for a stud DE. To me he is a compromise and risk. But god Bless him and hope he can stay healthy enough for teams to defend against his skills. Hendrickson was a target with a bullseye for me. Go Bills 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted August 17 Posted August 17 No chance we could make this trade work, it's just good to see a conference rival flailing. Cincy will have to average 40 PPG to make the playoffs. 1 2 Quote
Rubes Posted August 17 Posted August 17 Just as long as he doesn't go to any AFC East rival, or KC or Balt. If he somehow goes to Denver, that could be a problem too. But at least KC would have to deal with that more than us. 1 2 Quote
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