Sierra Foothills Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) On 9/3/2024 at 8:27 PM, ngbills said: Miller behind AJE Expand I seem to recall the Bills saying that Miller would play on obvious passing downs. On 9/3/2024 at 8:33 PM, hondo in seattle said: When we drafted Pran-Granger, some thought he'd start this year. He's currently third string. Ty Johnson is still ahead of Ray Davis on the depth chart. Did I really predict 11 wins? We have one star player on offense and none on defense - not what a playoff roster is supposed to look like. But this isn't astronomy so who needs stars? I'm sticking with 11 wins. Expand There's what the depth chart says and there's what happens when the Bills substitute. On 9/3/2024 at 9:44 PM, eball said: They’ll win at least 12. Expand I like the roster but what a tough schedule. Edited September 4, 2024 by Sierra Foothills 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/3/2024 at 8:27 PM, ngbills said: Miller behind AJE Expand Probably because he’ll start out more Alf a 3rd down pass rush specialist and then go from there. I’m in agreement with many on Hamlin as he’s always a step behind. Quote
BananaB Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) On 9/3/2024 at 8:19 PM, Jay_Fixit said: Mack Hollins. Starting WR. I think we’re done here. Expand Yeah that pretty much says it all. Scrub vet over rookie, the McD way. Hamlin starting too. Lmao. You think he would of learned after Nate Peterman Edited September 4, 2024 by BananaB 1 2 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Outside of Allen this is among the worst rosters in the league. 1 1 5 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/3/2024 at 9:03 PM, H2o said: Damar Hamlin starting? This Secondary is in trouble. Expand Weren’t they ranked #2 overall in 2022 when he started 13 games? He wasn’t perfect but I don’t remember worrying that Hamlin was a liability. 2 Quote
JP51 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 6:28 AM, machine gun kelly said: Probably because he’ll start out more Alf a 3rd down pass rush specialist and then go from there. I’m in agreement with many on Hamlin as he’s always a step behind. Expand I agree I dont see VM as an every down guy to start. Maybe his level of play dictates that but not to start. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) On 9/3/2024 at 8:21 PM, TBBills Fan said: I don't get the love affair the coaches have with this guy Expand Character over talent & production On 9/4/2024 at 1:53 PM, JP51 said: I agree I dont see VM as an every down guy to start. Maybe his level of play dictates that but not to start. Expand Miller is going to be a 3rd and long specialist. Edited September 4, 2024 by uticaclub 1 Quote
JP51 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) On 9/4/2024 at 2:01 PM, uticaclub said: Character over talent & production Miller is going to be a 3rd and long specialist. Expand 100% agree and I think to start that makes sense... it may just be who his is... The DH of the pass rush. Edited September 4, 2024 by JP51 Quote
BananaB Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 10:56 AM, JohnNord said: Weren’t they ranked #2 overall in 2022 when he started 13 games? He wasn’t perfect but I don’t remember worrying that Hamlin was a liability. Expand It was hard to complain about Damar because the guy they put in before him was so ***** bad. Quote
RyanC883 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 sweet. one elite player on the team. horrible roster for JA in his prime years. Quote
SCBills Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 10:50 AM, Coach Tuesday said: Outside of Allen this is among the worst rosters in the league. Expand Disagree with this entirely. On Paper: -Top 10 OL -Upper 1/3 RB room -Top 5 TE room -Bottom 1/3 WR room -Middle of the Pack DL -Middle of the Pack LBs -Top 10 CB room -Bottom 1/3 Safety room That's not "among the worst rosters in the league" It is, however, a team lacking star power/game changers outside of Josh Allen. It seems to me that a lot of people who are down on this team, simply view the answers to every question we have as "no". Will the WR room elevate with JA? Will Shakir and Kincaid make a jump? Will Von and/or Rousseau provide DE pass rush? Will Milano's replacement be ok? Will our Safeties give us adequate play? If you think the answer to all those questions is no, well then.. I guess I can see how some come to the conclusions heading into this season that they have. 5 Quote
H2o Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 10:56 AM, JohnNord said: Weren’t they ranked #2 overall in 2022 when he started 13 games? He wasn’t perfect but I don’t remember worrying that Hamlin was a liability. Expand He was absolutely a liability Quote
MikePJ76 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 10:26 AM, BananaB said: Yeah that pretty much says it all. Scrub vet over rookie, the McD way. Hamlin starting too. Lmao. You think he would of learned after Nate Peterman Expand People don't actually think like this do they? A starting Depth Chart means nothing. Its just a thing teams do because they have to. The bills wr and secondary will be mixed and matched in different formations and situations. A depth chart means nothing and it is fascinating seeing who takes this so seriously like its a little league lineup on opening day that wont change. 1 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:45 PM, MikePJ76 said: People don't actually think like this do they? A starting Depth Chart means nothing. Its just a thing teams do because they have to. The bills wr and secondary will be mixed and matched in different formations and situations. A depth chart means nothing and it is fascinating seeing who takes this so seriously like its a little league lineup on opening day that wont change. Expand It's crazy every year with some of these people. OMG Worthy and Odunze are listed as 2nd string WRs! 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:45 PM, MikePJ76 said: A starting Depth Chart means nothing. Its just a thing teams do because they have to. Expand Snap count is a much more important. I find all this hand ringing about the defense a little amusing. The Bills are bringing back 8 of 11 starters and have upgraded the depth on the D line. Last season with Milano played only the first 5 games, while played only the 1st 4 games, D Jones missing games 6-15, Miller played sparingly in 12 games and he admitted he wasn’t healthy, Poyer and Hyde missed some games and played injured much of the season, the Bills finished 9th in total yards, 7th in passing yards, 4th in sacks, 4th in Ints, and most importantly 4th in scoring defense. Their worst stat was 15th against the run, the Beane brought back DaQuan Jones and Epenesa (who is now a starter), brought in Austin Johnson and Smoot and drafted Carter to help improve the rush defense. Rapp was as effective last season as Poyer and Hyde in his 4 starts. Benford and Bernard should take another step forward in year 2 as starters. The biggest open questions are how will Williams do replacing Milano and how will Hamlin/Edwards do replacing Hyde? Truthfully I’m not all that worried about Williams. Look at the strides Benford and Benard made in their 2nd years on the team (and first as starters). Williams got a fair amount of PT last year including 2 starts and looked like he learned from his mistakes in camp this year. As to Edwards and Hamlin, this is the only spot I don’t have good confidence in, but I have confidence in McD’s ability to get the most out of his DBs. All in all, we should have another top 10 defense this year. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:10 PM, RyanC883 said: sweet. one elite player on the team. horrible roster for JA in his prime years. Expand Elite: Allen, Taron Very Good, could be Elite this season: Dawkins, Oliver, Rousseau, Bernard Elite Playmaker: Rasul 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 4:40 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: Elite: Allen, Taron Very Good, could be Elite this season: Dawkins, Oliver, Rousseau, Bernard Elite Playmaker: Rasul Expand What about Cook, Shakir and Kincaid? If all 3 hit 1000 yards and Cook adds another 400-500 receiving won’t they also be added to at least the VG column? Quote
Process Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 With the number of quality safeties available in free agency this year, and the fact that we took one in round two, I'll be honest, I am in shock that we are going into the season with Rapp and Hamlin as our starting duo. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) On 9/4/2024 at 4:48 PM, GASabresIUFan said: What about Cook, Shakir and Kincaid? If all 3 hit 1000 yards and Cook adds another 400-500 receiving won’t they also be added to at least the VG column? Expand Good, Good, maybe Very Good On 9/4/2024 at 4:52 PM, Process said: With the number of quality safeties available in free agency this year, and the fact that we took one in round two, I'll be honest, I am in shock that we are going into the season with Rapp and Hamlin as our starting duo. Expand Let's hope the coaching staff outsmarts the fanbase! On paper it's troubling Edited September 4, 2024 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 4:00 AM, Einstein said: I think you may be experiencing some memory lapses my friend. Hamlin was awful pre near-death-experience game. Truly terrible. He was a problem and caused many of the issues we had on defense. Expand Pretty obvious that Hamlin shy's away from contact Quote
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