BarleyNY Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: The battle for target #4 will be a good one at least! We seem plenty deep at WR3 and WR4. It’s WR1 and WR2 I’m worried about. I know that there’s not much to be done at this point, but it’s a rough place to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Poor guy is going to get stuck rocking 82, literally every other WR number is gone. Just now, BarleyNY said: We seem plenty deep at WR3 and WR4. It’s WR1 and WR2 I’m worried about. I know that there’s not much to be done at this point, but it’s a rough place to be. WR1 Curtis - who will probably be target number 2 or 3 WR2 Coleman - who will probably be target number 3 or 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Not to mention he had a TD catch in the Superbowl. No doubt his season was mired with drops but when it mattered he came through for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Anyone who says that Beane hasn't tried to help Josh this offseason needs to stop trolling the board. While I'm not the biggest MVS fan he definitely is improved depth to what had previously. He could be a good #3/4 WR with speed on the outside. We won't really know the answer until the season starts but on face value alone this wasn't the off-season the Bills fans wanted for our offense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Double dipping for who? Give me a name. Come on man. I'm not rehashing an entire offseason of discussion. If you're just catching up to the draft now that's fine. The rest of us have been talking about the players we didn't take for weeks now. 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: And OJ is a 3rd or 4th option at this point and isn’t that fast anymore. He would step in and immediately be the best WR on the Bills today IMO. Top 2 at worst. If you watch that video I don't think you can reasonably disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: We seem plenty deep at WR3 and WR4. It’s WR1 and WR2 I’m worried about. I know that there’s not much to be done at this point, but it’s a rough place to be. I think we need to quit getting so worked up about the numbering of WRs and look at performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Marquez Velveeta Scaffolding. Championship! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Just now, HappyDays said: Come on man. I'm not rehashing an entire offseason of discussion. If you're just catching up to the draft now that's fine. The rest of us have been talking about the players we didn't take for weeks now. He would step in and immediately be the best WR on the Bills today IMO. Top 2 at worst. If you watch that video I don't think you can reasonably disagree. Nope. Sorry. A lot of people talked about double dipping but names are rare when push comes to shove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I’ve heard of him! go bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Gtd $ 1.2 vs 3 bonus up to 4.5 vs up to 8.25 almost the same = over twice as much? ? MVS is getting a $1.125M signing bonus (guaranteed). We don't know the actual contract details yet. His base salary might push it to $2M, that's what I would guess actually. OBJ is getting $3M. The "max value" doesn't really matter at all. Those are just fun numbers for agents to flex their muscles. So we're talking about maybe a $1M-$1.5M difference between the two players. Yeah I would classify that as "almost the same." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Bills have a couple 2s and a lot of depth at number 3 and 4. Im guessing we become more TE centric and Kincaid will be the number 1 receiver going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, Magox said: Not to mention he had a TD catch in the Superbowl. No doubt his season was mired with drops but when it mattered he came through for them. He had 3 drops this season. Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Bills have a couple 2s and a lot of depth at number 3 and 4. Im guessing we become more TE centric and Kincaid will be the number 1 receiver going forward Safe bet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Come on man. I'm not rehashing an entire offseason of discussion. If you're just catching up to the draft now that's fine. The rest of us have been talking about the players we didn't take for weeks now. He would step in and immediately be the best WR on the Bills today IMO. Top 2 at worst. If you watch that video I don't think you can reasonably disagree. We can’t go back and change their top 3 WRs. They have chosen Samuel, Shakir, and Coleman. OBJ wasn’t coming here to sit behind them. There is a huge difference. They aren’t looking for an older veteran to come in and start over their younger players. They want someone behind those players with starting experience but won’t block their snaps. Edited May 14 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I have always kind of liked MVS and thought he had untapped upside - but how many of these guys can we collect? Going to be an interesting training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraq Vet Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I generally like Beane's moves... even when he makes misses. I see what he is trying to do. HOWEVER, on this one... I think this is a waste of time and resources. He has had some locker room issues (I thought). Although, McBeane will cut him so fast if he is a jerk or is a locker room issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Bills have a couple 2s and a lot of depth at number 3 and 4. Im guessing we become more TE centric and Kincaid will be the number 1 receiver going forward This is the vision I see as well. Kincaid as the 1. Cook & Davis used more in the passing game under Brady. Coleman, Shakir, Samuel & MVS all WR2/WR3's around Kincaid. Knox playing the traditional TE role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 hours ago, appoo said: They in fact have 2.5 now as all 3 of Samuel, Keon Coleman, and Khalil Shakir will stretch the field in different ways. But Shakir is so good in his first 15 yards the Bills likely won't ask him to run too many deep stuff. But if they do... I could watch this play 1000X and it never gets old. We are so lucky to have Allen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: OBJ wasn’t coming here to sit behind them. OBJ is worried about sitting behind established WR starters so he chose the Dolphins? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, SCBills said: This is the vision I see as well. Kincaid as the 1. Cook & Davis used more in the passing game under Brady. Coleman, Shakir, Samuel & MVS all WR2/WR3's around Kincaid. Knox playing the traditional TE role. Thats their plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 47 minutes ago, DCofNC said: If nothing else, he’s a vet that’s been around enough to know the ropes. Decent depth, at this point we just have to hope he isn’t the #2. For this cost and experience he is a great depth player that is better than sherifeld, Harty, and whoever else we have been throwing out at 4/5, maybe even 3 last year if you put diggs at 3 (where he finished the season). 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Come on man. I'm not rehashing an entire offseason of discussion. If you're just catching up to the draft now that's fine. The rest of us have been talking about the players we didn't take for weeks now. He would step in and immediately be the best WR on the Bills today IMO. Top 2 at worst. If you watch that video I don't think you can reasonably disagree. OBJ is a punk ass B word. We don't need him when he's worse than Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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