Billl Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Every outlet has reported there are injuries. Reported as "minor" by TMZ, but that could mean simply not life threatening. But the point remains, your assertion that everyone walked away without any injuries is factually false. You’re right. TMZ is famous for understating situations rather than sensationalizing them. Those other cars rolled over and burst into flames, and there are surely injuries that fall just under the threshold of “life threatening”. Rice is going to serve prison time. This is basically Henry Ruggs part 2. 🥱 Edited April 1 by Billl 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, Billl said: Not “any” injuries. It’s $10k and a potential loss of license if the injuries are minor which they were. Nobody is going to jail over this. Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but worst case scenario is probably a 4 game suspension. There’s literally video of the occupants of the cars getting out and walking away without so much as a limp. Why are you so quick to downplay the incident and take the player's side? Would you be saying the same thing if someone was killed, which could have easily happened? But you're right, nothing of any consequence will ever happen to this guy or other model citizens like Britt Reid or Tyreek Hill. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Billl said: You’re right. Those other cars rolled over and burst into flames. Rice is going to serve prison time. 🥱 People don't have to die or the car burst into flames to fall under the terms of fleeing a hit and run involving bodily harm. That's not a nothing charge. I don't know if he's going to be tried or serve time or not. I don't know for 100% certainty he was driving or that they can prove that he was. Though it appears to me that he was there and he was driving, I don't know if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt or not. But this idea you're perpetuating that since no car burst into flames and no one died it's a non story and that there were absolutely no injuries is factually wrong and the level of downplay you're arguing for the offense is simply put, downright embarrassing from your end. Edited March 31 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, buffblue said: Why are you so quick to downplay the incident and take the player's side? Would you be saying the same thing if someone was killed, which could have easily happened? But you're right, nothing of any consequence will ever happen to this guy or other model citizens like Britt Reid or Tyreek Hill. Of course I wouldn’t be saying the same thing if someone was killed. There’s a pretty big difference between getting into a wreck where everyone walks away versus someone being killed. It was a stupid situation, and I’m sure he’ll face some sort of consequence, but it’s not like he’s OJ Simpson or Von Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 28 minutes ago, Billl said: Not “any” injuries. It’s $10k and a potential loss of license if the injuries are minor which they were. Nobody is going to jail over this. Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but worst case scenario is probably a 4 game suspension. There’s literally video of the occupants of the cars getting out and walking away without so much as a limp. I didn’t say he’d go to jail but he will be arrested if he was the driver. If no injuries likely loss of license and probation perhaps. You claimed he wouldn’t be arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Billl said: Of course I wouldn’t be saying the same thing if someone was killed. There’s a pretty big difference between getting into a wreck where everyone walks away versus someone being killed. It was a stupid situation, and I’m sure he’ll face some sort of consequence, but it’s not like he’s OJ Simpson or Von Miller. Oh my God. Someone doesn't have to *die* for there to be an offense with repercussions, possibly major. No one has said that he's going to have a Henry Ruggs like punishment or is comparing the end result to Ruggs. But you don't have to kill someone to be charged with something or be punished. A crime of a hit and run involving bodily harm (even minor) is a felony offense. And the clapbacks at you stem from you claiming no one will or should be arrested for anything and no one was injured. By the letter of the law and what's been reported - these assertions are completely incorrect. And it's interesting you should mention Henry Ruggs earlier. Is this the same result? Thankfully no. But it's the same action from a comparable 2nd year player and Ruggs is still in recent memory. I could easily see a scenario where Goodell and the League want to make an example of him to try and prevent this kind of behavior happening again. Edited March 31 by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 It is not a good look, first to drive without any care or concern for fellow motorists, and then to just saunter away from the scene. I do not like the way their minds work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 39 minutes ago, Billl said: Not “any” injuries. It’s $10k and a potential loss of license if the injuries are minor which they were. Nobody is going to jail over this. Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but worst case scenario is probably a 4 game suspension. There’s literally video of the occupants of the cars getting out and walking away without so much as a limp. Worst case scenario is KC now realize they have an idiot at WR who they can’t rely on, they may be forced to use an earlier pick on WR then they had planned. Racing is idiotic enough, but fleeing without regard to innocent victims well being shows his true character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Oh my God. Someone doesn't have to *die* for there to be an offense with repercussions, possibly major. And it's interesting you should mention Henry Ruggs earlier. Is this the same result? Thankfully no. But it's the same action from a comparable 2nd year player and Ruggs is still in recent memory. I could easily see a scenario where Goodell and the League see this and want to make an example of him. Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, Billl said: Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. You claimed he wouldn’t get arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Considering the joke of a punishment Brett Reid got, Rice will likely skate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Considering the joke of a punishment Brett Reid got, Rice will likely skate. I will say this, Andy Reid is a hell of a football coach and guys make their own decisions but he always seems to have guys involved in some stuff. Oldest son OD, Britt, Tyreek, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, now Rashee Rice and it’s always fairly serious stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 23 minutes ago, Billl said: Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. You could've saved yourself a lot of time and typing effort in this thread by just saying "I am incapable of being unbiased and level-headed about this issue because it involves a Kansas City Chief, and I am downplaying the seriousness of this misdemeanor criminal offense because the player in question plays for my favorite team. If he played for a different team, my opinion would be different". There. That's the truth. Now you don't have to keep replying any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 37 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Oh my God. Someone doesn't have to *die* for there to be an offense with repercussions, possibly major. No one has said that he's going to have a Henry Ruggs like punishment or is comparing the end result to Ruggs. But you don't have to kill someone to be charged with something or be punished. A crime of a hit and run involving bodily harm (even minor) is a felony offense. And the clapbacks at you stem from you claiming no one will or should be arrested for anything and no one was injured. By the letter of the law and what's been reported - these assertions are completely incorrect. And it's interesting you should mention Henry Ruggs earlier. Is this the same result? Thankfully no. But it's the same action from a comparable 2nd year player and Ruggs is still in recent memory. I could easily see a scenario where Goodell and the League want to make an example of him to try and prevent this kind of behavior happening again. more similar than ruggs is probably Carter- with the street racing. The nfl has to be eager to stamp out both behaviors though. 26 minutes ago, Billl said: Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. he won’t do jail time but unlike Carter, rice is an nfl player and will likely miss a few games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: more similar than ruggs is probably Carter- with the street racing. The nfl has to be eager to stamp out both behaviors though. he won’t do jail time but unlike Carter, rice is an nfl player and will likely miss a few games Yup NFL couldn’t do anything about Carter , I’m seeing , especially if guns were at the scene, seeing a nice 6-10 game suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You claimed he wouldn’t get arrested likely to get tagged with charges but not actually do even a minute behind bars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 48 minutes ago, Billl said: Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. He won’t face jail time But as you said, he is stupid and he needs to evaluate his inner circle. Can’t be an idiot more than a few times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 54 minutes ago, Billl said: Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident. He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later. Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending. I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him. The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries. He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil. I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction. There is a significant difference in those cases, while yes someone died, but they were the people in the other car racing and it wasn't due to a collision with his car they couldn't make the turn and veered off the road. In this case both cars hit multiple vehicles by the look of it and that's not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, Billl said: Of course I wouldn’t be saying the same thing if someone was killed. There’s a pretty big difference between getting into a wreck where everyone walks away versus someone being killed. It was a stupid situation, and I’m sure he’ll face some sort of consequence, but it’s not like he’s OJ Simpson or Von Miller. What did OJ Simpson ever do? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Dumb kid doing dumb things. Thankfully nobody was seriously injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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