PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion

[vanhalen26]

19 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

I’m surprised you still have this opinion after (I assume) seeing the presentation and getting a good idea about the new sight lines and amenities. Especially after dishing out for clubs, I would think you would be pretty convinced the new place will be much better. 
Maybe you’ll be pleasantly surprised once you walk in?  Hope so!

I don’t think it’ll change much for me.  I’m boring - I sit my ass down, maybe run for a bathroom break at the half, and just watch the game.  The sightline shouldn’t be much different.  For my wife however, I think it will make a difference.  She avoids the colder games for the most part and complains about the cold when she does come - so having the warm area to shuffle off to will probably result in her coming to more games which is a good thing.

 

I also don’t like the field club game day pricing for the new seats.  We are lucky that it’s in our budget, but it’s going to make it harder to invite friends.  

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, vanhalen26 said:

We bought the field clubs.  Pretty excited.  That said, I would’ve preferred either a dome or a renovation to the current stadium.  I think the current stadium has great sight lines all over and with they could have preserved it.

 

Yea, the concourse is crowded but I spend the game in my seats.  
 

This new stadium is a hybrid between a dome and the current - not sure why they didn’t go all in on a refurb or dome.

 

I wanted a dome but I hope I got the next best thing in the new stadium. Seats under a balcony and one row from a concourse with heat lamps.

[Chicharito]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I wanted a dome but I hope I got the next best thing in the new stadium. Seats under a balcony and one row from a concourse with heat lamps.

I originally had seats picked out like you described. Then I noticed that the seats were obscured. There are standing room only porches that obstructed my view down the field. Just be careful and don’t get stuck with those.

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, Chicharito said:

I originally had seats picked out like you described. Then I noticed that the seats were obscured. There are standing room only porches that obstructed my view down the field. Just be careful and don’t get stuck with those.

I'm in 124, end zone seats 21 rows from the field.

[Tenhigh]

I am section 113, row 17!  Very fired up, can't wait for the new stadium!!!

[WotAGuy]

Awesome!  I’m in Section $$$ and Row $$$$. 
Can’t wait!

[Tenhigh]

14 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Awesome!  I’m in Section $$$ and Row $$$$. 
Can’t wait!

Lol

[Mango]

19 hours ago, vanhalen26 said:

We bought the field clubs.  Pretty excited.  That said, I would’ve preferred either a dome or a renovation to the current stadium.  I think the current stadium has great sight lines all over and with they could have preserved it.

 

Yea, the concourse is crowded but I spend the game in my seats.  
 

This new stadium is a hybrid between a dome and the current - not sure why they didn’t go all in on a refurb or dome.

 

From a political and  sentimental perspective I would have been thrilled with the Ralph and the cheapest option.

 

From a fan/football perspective the Bills deserve a much louder stadium than  they have and they'll never get it with its current bones. Its just to sloping with open ends.

 

As somebody who used to have tickets in 134 and sat 4 rows from the field in KC, there's no contest as to what stadium is louder. Its really not even close. They're at 120 decibels on 2nd at 7. They have ear plugs listed on pricing at concessions.

 

And it's not the fans fault, it's the stadiums. With a new stadium the Bills should blow that away. It takes A LOT more work to hit 140 decibels with open end zones and gradual slopes.

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I'm in 124, end zone seats 21 rows from the field.

 

Do you like it there? You feel like you're more "in the game" but I feel like I spend sooolo much time watching the scoreboard.

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

From a political and  sentimental perspective I would have been thrilled with the Ralph and the cheapest option.

 

From a fan/football perspective the Bills deserve a much louder stadium than  they have and they'll never get it with its current bones. Its just to sloping with open ends.

 

As somebody who used to have tickets in 134 and sat 4 rows from the field in KC, there's no contest as to what stadium is louder. Its really not even close. They're at 120 decibels on 2nd at 7. They have ear plugs listed on pricing at concessions.

 

And it's not the fans fault, it's the stadiums. With a new stadium the Bills should blow that away. It takes A LOT more work to hit 140 decibels with open end zones and gradual slopes.

 

Do you like it there? You feel like you're more "in the game" but I feel like I spend sooolo much time watching the scoreboard.

My current seats are in the Rockpile 200s, so I'm used to only seeing half the game up close. I usually bring a pair of binoculars that makes up some for not seeing the game from the sidelines.

[Just Jack]

7 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

Awesome!  I’m in Section $$$ and Row $$$$. 
Can’t wait!

 

I'm in Ticketmaster $econdary Market! 

Edited yesterday at 01:55 AM by Just Jack

[Jukester]

From Buffalo News front page today:

Bills on Pace to Sell Out PSL’s for New Stadium

The Buffalo Bills say the pace of personal seat license sales has picked up dramatically with the lower price points in the first level and then more recently, in the upper level.

But will this surge in sales be enough to get every seat sold and every PSL under contract before the new $2.2 billion stadium opens for the 2026 season?

That is likely to happen by early next year if the pace of sales continues as it has for the past several months. At that rate, the Bills may be able to sell around 9,000 PSLs during the latest quarter, from April through June.

Paywall article:

http://buffalonews.com/news/local/article_057ce6df-4f74-4856-83dc-bd298df77eb6.html

Current PSL price map

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AbKtVMziD/?mibextid=K35XfP

Edited 22 hours ago by Jukester

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Jukester said:

From Buffalo News front page today:

Bills on Pace to Sell Out PSL’s for New Stadium

The Buffalo Bills say the pace of personal seat license sales has picked up dramatically with the lower price points in the first level and then more recently, in the upper level.

But will this surge in sales be enough to get every seat sold and every PSL under contract before the new $2.2 billion stadium opens for the 2026 season?

That is likely to happen by early next year if the pace of sales continues as it has for the past several months. At that rate, the Bills may be able to sell around 9,000 PSLs during the latest quarter, from April through June.

Paywall article:

http://buffalonews.com/news/local/article_057ce6df-4f74-4856-83dc-bd298df77eb6.html

Current PSL price map

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AbKtVMziD/?mibextid=K35XfP

The question is how many lower PSL tiers will there be? My rep said a $1,000 tier will be announced soon. Will there be anything lower? $750? $500?

Edited 20 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[Jukester]

I think $500 is a possibility. I believe both Allegiant in LV and US Bank in Minny went down to $500. SoFi went to $1000. 

[Einstein]

8 hours ago, Jukester said:

From Buffalo News front page today:

Bills on Pace to Sell Out PSL’s for New Stadium

The Buffalo Bills say the pace of personal seat license sales has picked up dramatically with the lower price points in the first level and then more recently, in the upper level.

But will this surge in sales be enough to get every seat sold and every PSL under contract before the new $2.2 billion stadium opens for the 2026 season?

That is likely to happen by early next year if the pace of sales continues as it has for the past several months. At that rate, the Bills may be able to sell around 9,000 PSLs during the latest quarter, from April through June.

Paywall article:

http://buffalonews.com/news/local/article_057ce6df-4f74-4856-83dc-bd298df77eb6.html

Current PSL price map

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AbKtVMziD/?mibextid=K35XfP

 

The Bills are really paying to pump out these articles 

[PromoTheRobot]

38 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The Bills are really paying to pump out these articles 

 

I think the truth is in between. They're selling but not at the pace they want.

[Kirby Jackson]

7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The question is how many lower PSL tiers will there be? My rep said a $1,000 tier will be announced soon. Will there be anything lower? $750? $500?

It depends. That’s pretty much been the point all along. They don’t release other pricing tiers until they need to. That’s why they were always going to sell out. They’ll make sure it happens. What was the revenue target and how close to it are they? That’s the real question and the only one that matters. We will never know that answer. The PSLs were always going to sell out. That’s easy to do. Doing it for a number that you wanted, or even higher, is the challenge. I doubt that they hit their revenue goal.

[QCity]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What was the revenue target and how close to it are they? That’s the real question and the only one that matters. We will never know that answer. 

 

You're correct that we may never know the answer, but if they sellout early in March or April (as predicted in the BN article) that's a clear indication that they're very close to their target revenue. Legends knows what they're doing, they aren't going to prematurely drop PSL prices and forgo millions in revenue just to say "Hey look, we sold out 6 months early!" 

[Kirby Jackson]

5 hours ago, QCity said:

 

You're correct that we may never know the answer, but if they sellout early in March or April (as predicted in the BN article) that's a clear indication that they're very close to their target revenue. Legends knows what they're doing, they aren't going to prematurely drop PSL prices and forgo millions in revenue just to say "Hey look, we sold out 6 months early!" 

That’s fair and Legends definitely knows what they’re doing. They are the best at this. I’m suggesting that they’ve likely, already, tweaked pricing from their original plan to get to where they are. It may be minor. It may be major. It may not have happened. They monitor trends, close percentage, demand, the WNY markst, etc… You have to be nimble IMO with a whole stadium to sell.
 

From my own experience going through the process, it felt like the pricing was a little reactionary. We held off after the trip through because it was more than we wanted to pay. We were told that’s what they have available now. Less than a week later, we were called, moved across the aisle, and saved 25%. That could be coincidental but it didn’t feel like it. It felt a little like a car negotiation. Basically they knew we were going to be in and paying a big number. It felt a little bit like, “a bird in the hand” from them. Again, it’s a little anectodal but it felt like they left $20k on the table between my brother and I. We ultimately would have paid it but it became a matter of who will blink first. It COULD be coincidental but I doubt it. It seemed like they did what they needed to get the deal done and they slid us across the aisle (literally the seats next to the ones we looked at) to get it done. They save face by moving us 4 seats further from midfield. They get 4 club seats sold and we save 25% a piece.

Edited 3 hours ago by Kirby Jackson