The coaching mismatch

[beebe]

35 minutes ago, WIDE LEFT said:

You failed to mention that when the KC defense came out of its shell Allen threw 3 bombs that were dropped. You dink and dunk until the D abandons its shell then you hit them deep. Of course, you actually have to catch the ball. To throw out stats like Allen only averaging small amount of yards per completion, without even a mention of the dropped long passes is classic.

 

Josh had TWO completions beyond six yards the entire game. One of them was a spectacular catch by Shakir for a touchdown. There were for sure a few catches that should have been made - that need to be made - downfield. But the Chiefs' banged-up defense, playing without four starters and two backup safeties, turned an elite quarterback into Russell Wilson. 

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

Allen will definitely eventually beat Mahomes in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl. 

 

The games have been too close for it not to go our way eventually, and maybe a few times. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

I wish it was just one thing that needed to be fixed.  McDermott is far from perfect.  But one game It could be coaching, or play calling, execution, bad decisions, a dropped pass, missed FG, a turnover at the worst time, a gust of wind at the wrong time.  For whatever reason, there's still a collective mindset in place that somehow, some way this team will find a way to blow the game.  And in the big spotlight they fail to disappoint.   

Edited February 22 by All_Pro_Bills

[mrags]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

Ok. I get that. there was a mismatch.

 

But, why did it take until nearly the end of the game for McChump to adapt? It was clear as day that something different should be done and I was harping on it during the game. Get Neal out there in a double Nickel package to cover Kelce. Neal has done it before, and Johnson or Neal would b capable. Especially as we were able to successfully put Poyer in the box.

 

Let them run on us. That wasn't going to get it done. They weren't winning that game without the pass. Every game we beat them we shut down Kelce.

 

There is no excuse why McDermott did not make this change earlier in the game. NONE.

There’s not reason why he ever thought Klein being out there was a good move anyway. He was an “oh crap” signing as it is. Break glass in case of even bigger emergency. Yet there he was, getting significant playing time in the biggest game of the year. Against the toughest opponent. Against their best pass catcher. You want him in the game because you have no one else, fine. Then put someone on him that actually had a chance as covering him. Hell, I would have ran Williams out there against him, he likely makes a bunch of mistakes, but at least he’s physical enough to keep up with Kelce. Live and die with that decision. Or any other one that included the guy covering their best receiver, the best TE in the league, was a guy that was on his cough a few weeks prior, planning a family vacation. 

[Mark80]

We were one throw away from beating the Chiefs with our defense completely decimated by injuries.  Amazing how this just gets glossed over constantly.  We had AJ freaking Klien trying to cover Kelce.  AJ Klien.  And still almost won.  The chiefs, on the other hand, were basically completely healthy on D to start the game and then lost 1 LB during the game.

Edited February 22 by Mark80

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

This is original 

It's a more nuanced analysis 

[Sweats]

27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Reid is the uncrowned GOAT.

 

Nuggies and BBQ are the only things that could stop him from holding every single HC wins/titles record by the time he retires. 

 

He's currently 5 playoff wins away from tying Belichick for most playoff wins all-time as a HC. That's 2 playoff runs. 

 

That said, McDermott has definitely shown the desire and ability to adapt and become WAY less conservative. The guy called a fake punt inside his own 30 yard line in a divisional playoff game. 

 

NOW we need McDermott to get behind loading up the offense with weapons. 

 

 

 

 

 

A fake punt within his own 30 yard line, not with JA, not with Cook, not even Diggs.......with Hamlin.

 

And.....nothing more needs to be said here.

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, Sweats said:

 

 

 

A fake punt within his own 30 yard line, not with JA, not with Cook, not even Diggs.......with Hamlin.

 

And.....nothing more needs to be said here.

 

yeah, not a great decision there for sure

 

That's the weird thing about McDermott that I think he needs to work on. His decisions to take a risk sometimes come out of nowhere and seem so counter to what he is all about. Like he's forcing it a little bit. 

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

yeah, not a great decision there for sure

 

That's the weird thing about McDermott that I think he needs to work on. His decisions to take a risk sometimes come out of nowhere and seem so counter to what he is all about. Like he's forcing it a little bit. 

 

 

 

I agree earlier when you said that McD is at least trying to be less conservative with the playcalling and play scheming, but i think some of his calls are without a doubt, questionable.

 

I mean, i have no problem with being aggressive. In fact, i would rather lose a game from being too aggressive than too passive or having idiotic playcalling TBH. A fake punt within your own 30 yard line and you don't put it in your playmakers hands but give it to a guy who played in 2 snaps all season?......like come on, man. McD, what the hell were you thinking?!?

 

I am trying to give McD the benefit of the doubt these days, but he's making it real hard.

[TheFunPolice]

3 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I agree earlier when you said that McD is at least trying to be less conservative with the playcalling and play scheming, but i think some of his calls are without a doubt, questionable.

 

I mean, i have no problem with being aggressive. In fact, i would rather lose a game from being too aggressive than too passive or having idiotic playcalling TBH. A fake punt within your own 30 yard line and you don't put it in your playmakers hands but give it to a guy who played in 2 snaps all season?......like come on, man. McD, what the hell were you thinking?!?

 

I am trying to give McD the benefit of the doubt these days, but he's making it real hard.

 

I think it's so against his natural instincts that he's doing what he thinks he should do to be more aggressive.

 

That fake punt was a disaster, but maybe it does show that he is at least trying to evolve. I have high hopes that he is the type of coach who will allow himself to grow and get better. 

 

This offseason and next season's offense will tell the tale. He did say in his end of the season presser that he believes that you win by passing the ball. We'll see if he really meant it soon by what the team does in free agency and the draft!

 

He has to commit to doing what needs to be done to avoid losing over and over in the playoffs. 

Edited February 22 by TheFunPolice

[JerseyBills]

3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

I agree with you x100. No Milano, White, Bernard, Douglas…But…McDermott hate and all that. Get with the program. 

Bernard playing would've won that game and I mean they damn near did win regardless,  2 missed fgs, a dropped td by Diggs, Huge drop by Sherfield,  Jones getting to Allen at the right specific time.

This team is well run n coached as any . Just gotta stay healthy 

[Billl]

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

[BillsPride12]

13 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

Although I don't put all of the blame on coaching you have a fanbase that's currently questioning why we can't get past the Divisional Round with Josh Allen at Quarterback so I get why it's such a major talking point around here 

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

It makes tremendous sense when you think about it.

 

This fan base believes, by and large, believes that Josh Allen is at least Patrick Mahomes’ equal, maybe even better. 
 

Working off that assumption, they had to find other reasons why we haven’t had the same success as the Chiefs. First it was the weapons. “Give Josh Hill and Kelce!” “Sammy Watkins is their WR4!”

 

Then Kelce got old and Hill got shipped out and that narrative had to die because they won two more.

 

Now the only thing they have left is Reid. A guy who was a notorious choke artist for the first 20 or so years coaching. Never won the big one with talent at QB. Was clowned for a decade about sucking at clock management. Was a perennial first round exit in KC with a very talented roster. 
 

But of course, now he’s an elite coach. The upper echelon crust. And it can’t be because he has the current greatest QB in football. So really, the difference has to be Reid vastly outperforming McD. 
 

They ignore things they see with their own eyes (Harbaugh and Tomlin unable to win playoff games without elite QB play, BB’s Pats being a shell of themselves post Tom Brady, Arians winning an SB with the GOAT after failing to amount to much with Carson Palmer in Arizona.) It MUST be coaching. 

[Jerome007]

Even if Reid and crew are better, what do you want the Bills to do? I'd say McD is Top 10 at the very least, close to the Top 5. So yeah, a few coaches are better than him, I don't doubt that. But if you fire him, then what?

 

49ers fans are saying the same for Shanahan what Bills fans are saying for McD. Yet they lost in the Superbowl in overtime! Only 1 team out of 32 is happy come the end of the season. Bills lost by a tiny margin to the SB champs this time, and well, while that 13 sec fiasco is on the D coaches, they had lost in OT. As if that was a sign they suck or something. Chiefs find a way to win, Bills have to do the same. But they sure can do it.

 

[Success]

2 hours ago, beebe said:

 

Josh had TWO completions beyond six yards the entire game. One of them was a spectacular catch by Shakir for a touchdown. There were for sure a few catches that should have been made - that need to be made - downfield. But the Chiefs' banged-up defense, playing without four starters and two backup safeties, turned an elite quarterback into Russell Wilson. 

 

 

 

I mean - you understand that the focus on short passes was by design....right?

 

Reid coaches these games better.  McDermott is a solid coach - but Reid is a great coach.

 

1 hour ago, Mark80 said:

We were one throw away from beating the Chiefs with our defense completely decimated by injuries.  Amazing how this just gets glossed over constantly.  We had AJ freaking Klien trying to cover Kelce.  AJ Klien.  And still almost won.  The chiefs, on the other hand, we basically completely healthy on D to start the game and then lost 1 LB during the game.

 

100%.  I feel like I'm losing my mind reading some of these posts.

 

 

[Success]

40 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

 

I mean, that's what happens with an underachieving team.  

 

It must be challenging as a KC fan to see fans of another team post about anything but Mahomes' greatness.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

If the Chiefs were forced to choose a combo of Reid and Allen or McDermott and Mahomes which would they choose?

 

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If the Chiefs were forced to choose a combo of Reid and Allen or McDermott and Mahomes which would they choose?

 

 

McD and Mahomes for sure.

[LABILLBACKER]

44 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

...says the guy who's team has the #1 coach in the league....how adorable Bill with 3 L's.