Jrb1979 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Beast said: The Bills had the Chiefs on the ropes when we had an absolutely shredded defense from injuries. The Bills defense, barring catastrophic injuries, will be much better next season. I would bet the Chiefs offense will be much better next season too. The difference between the Bills and the Chiefs play to win and take chances. Like I said in the Superbowl thread. The difference in the game was KC played to win, where as San Fran played not to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: This is as simple and straight to the point as you can get. HoF HC Arguably best DC in NFL HoF QB The end. Not just HOF worthy. Both Reid and Mahomes are in contention for the best of all time at HC and QB. If they go win one or two more, which is completely possible, if not probable, it won't even be a contest anymore. It is extremely sucky to be in the AFC right now. But the Bills have beaten the Chiefs in the regular season multiple times now. Nobody else in the AFC has a chance to be a thorn in their side like the Bills do. Just get it done in the playoffs one of these years, please. If we get past then I know we'll win the Superbowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Hard disagree on ‘josh has not been as clutch as mahomes’…he’s been every bit as clutch. The defense just cannot make gamechanging plays and josh has to play a 100% perfect game to win. mahomes was very far from perfect tonight and got the w regardless because they have a game wrecker on defense that always shows up. I don’t think mahomes has played well for anywhere close to 60 minutes in a Super Bowl and their defense/special teams always have a big impact. Josh has not had that luxury in any playoff game… heck we would’ve lost to Indy in the first round that year we made the afc championship if Josh didn’t go full Superman. The defense did everything they could to lose that one 😂 Edited February 12 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I stopped reading when I saw sour grapes Creed Humphrey mentioned. He had about 36 bad snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Hard disagree on ‘josh has not been as clutch as mahomes’…he’s been every bit as clutch. The defense just cannot make gamechanging plays and josh has to play a 100% perfect game to win. mahomes was very far from perfect tonight and got the w regardless because they have a game wrecker on defense that always shows up. I don’t think mahomes has played well for anywhere close to 60 minutes in a Super Bowl and their defense/special teams always shows up. Josh has not had that luxury It has to be one or the other man. You first said that the Bills and Chiefs roster are close and that you would actually lean towards the Bills but then in this post you state that Mahomes is afforded the luxury of having a great defense and top end players (Chris Jones). I get you'll fall back on the bills injuries this year but then what are the excuses for the 2021 and 2022 seasons on why the Chiefs made it further when the Bills weren't ravaged by injuries and have a roster that you think is slightly better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: They had injuries including tonight. They were missing Joe Thuney and Derrick Nnadi a starting Guard and DT. They missed Pacheco for a couple of games. Didn't have Bolton for a stretch of the season. Huh!? If we had White, Milano and Von wed smoke them. Maybe you should switch teams!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 22 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: They had injuries including tonight. They were missing Joe Thuney and Derrick Nnadi a starting Guard and DT. They missed Pacheco for a couple of games. Didn't have Bolton for a stretch of the season. Pacheco and Bolton both played most of the year and the entire playoffs. Pennel was an upgrade to Nnadi. And apparently you don't need quality guard play when you can just hold on every play. Basically, none of those guys affected their game. Give us either Milano or Bernard, nevermind both, nevermind the rest of our defensive starters who were out against the Chiefs, and we're probably celebrating right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, Einstein said: I remember when KC traded up in front us to get McDuffie and thinking “man I hope he sucks and the better player falls to us”. I mean, it sucks that the Chiefs got a good player. But McDuffie's size and arm length pretty much guaranteed he'd be a Nickel CB. He's a great one at that, but so is Taron Johnson (McDuffie is 1st Team AP, Taron is 2nd) and we already had him in house. We weren't in the market for a Nickel CB. We needed a Boundary CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Well yeah, it should've been clear for a long time he's the best QB in the league. "Down year" or not, he was still a 2x SB winner/2 x MVP. Now he's a 3x SB winner out of 4x SB appearances (in only 6 years). But just as the Bucs & Rams showed everyone, you don't have to have the BEST QB in the league. Just get into the postseason & play your best football at the end of the year. Oh, and having a top 5 QB also helps... but they don't need to be #1 in the league! 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: It has to be one or the other man. You first said that the Bills and Chiefs roster are close and that you would actually lean towards the Bills but then in this post you state that Mahomes is afforded the luxury of having a great defense and top end players (Chris Jones). I get you'll fall back on the bills injuries this year but then what are the excuses for the 2021 and 2022 seasons on why the Chiefs made it further when the Bills weren't ravaged by injuries and have a roster that you think is slightly better? Haha why did you type all this when you already know my answer 😂. If you’re lurking all my posts I have stated multiple times I think we win fairly comfortably with one of Milano/bernard starting over aj klein. Klein got straight up humiliated by the chiefs. Dump aj Klein in place of Bolton on the chiefs roster and I’m not sure they make it out of the first round. He’s a practice squad level talent at this stage of his career playing one of the most important positions on the field I have never said I’ve thought the bills were ALWAYS better than the chiefs. Chiefs definitely had the edge the year we went to the afc championship…think it’s pretty even these days though and people are overreacting to back to back absurdly close playoff losses personally I respect it if you disagree but i don’t think there’s any inconsistencies in my posts at all 😂 Edited February 12 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Haha why did you type all this when you already know my answer 😂. If you’re lurking all my posts I have stated multiple times I think we win fairly comfortably with one of Milano/bernard starting over aj klein. Klein got straight up humiliated by the chiefs. Dump aj Klein in place of Bolton on the chiefs roster and I’m not sure they make it out of the first round. He’s a practice squad level talent at this stage of his career playing one of the most important positions on the field I have never said I’ve thought the bills were ALWAYS better than the chiefs. Chiefs definitely had the edge the year we went to the afc championship…think it’s pretty even these days though and people are overreacting to back to back absurdly close playoff losses personally How am I lurking? I created this thread. Of course I'm going to read every post on something that I created. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 35 minutes ago, Einstein said: I remember when KC traded up in front us to get McDuffie and thinking “man I hope he sucks and the better player falls to us”. Remember when we traded down & gave the Chiefs Mahomes? Should've just traded with the Jets or something, that way you know he'd never amount to anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Mahomes is as cool as ice in clutch moments. I hate that he keeps winning and my friends were laughing at me at how upset I got with the 49ers losing (not a team I routinely support) but I have to admit it... When it's crunch time and the game, the season, the championship is on the line, if I can pick one player to make it happen, it's Mahomes. I hate it but that's the truth. Yeah that gimme TD after the punt debacle and the final walk-in toss to Hardman were legendary. He really nailed those 4 field goals too. Amazing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: How am I lurking? I created this thread. Of course I'm going to read every post on something that I created. Haha thought it was two different threads…that is my bad. Still don’t see the inconsistencies at all though man. None of those playoff teams is winning it all with Klein forced into the starting lineup and I don’t believe that’s even debatable Edited February 12 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 37 minutes ago, Einstein said: I remember when KC traded up in front us to get McDuffie and thinking “man I hope he sucks and the better player falls to us”. Do you remember trading down with KC? Mahomes is already a HOF QB and McD chose a CB and a first round pick instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, LEBills said: Spagnola is the problem. Reid and Mahomes have had him as DCoordinator in every SB win. They have good players but his system gets the most out of them. Tough to beat Mahomes and Reid when you can only muster 22-24 points a game. There it is. Yep. Their offense is not why they won the SB this season. The story of their season was the defense it was the first words out of Reid’s and Mahomes mouth in postgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said: Do you remember trading down with KC? Mahomes is already a HOF QB and McD chose a CB and a first round pick instead. Would he have developed the same with the bills though? I don’t think we know that for sure. Josh got straight up thrown to the wolves it’s kind of a miracle it worked out 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 40 minutes ago, Doc said: Coaching. Reid is one of the, if not the best offensive minds in the game. Decades of honing his craft. And since he's HC, he's not going anywhere (unless he retires). And Spags is the guy who shut down the Cheaters in the SB twice. This as well. I mean, how often does Mahomes throw to a wide open receiver? Reid is amazing at what he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Greatest active coaching staff and greatest active QB equals winning a lot. Sucks that we gave them 1/2 of that winning formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I mean, it sucks that the Chiefs got a good player. But McDuffie's size and arm length pretty much guaranteed he'd be a Nickel CB. He's a great one at that, but so is Taron Johnson (McDuffie is 1st Team AP, Taron is 2nd) and we already had him in house. We weren't in the market for a Nickel CB. We needed a Boundary CB. Taron Johnson is nowhere near the cover CB that McDuffie is. His technique is not that good. He is a tough smart player. And a great tackler. But not at the same level in coverage as McDuffie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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