Matt_In_NH Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said: McD will never be close to Reid McD will never be as good as Spags in playoffs Allen will never be Mahomes (And we literally game him to Chiefs and then drafted a DB) Veach is significantly better then Beane Clark Hunt much better the Terry. The 4 pillars of elite NFL success Owner, GM, Head Coach, QB is 4-0 Chiefs and some by a super large margin. Amazing the Bills take them to the brink everytime they play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: Amazing the Bills take them to the brink everytime they play C'mon man, you know darn well that regular season games and playoff games are worlds apart. Those regular season wins mean diddly squat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 hours ago, LEBills said: Spagnola is the problem. Reid and Mahomes have had him as DCoordinator in every SB win. They have good players but his system gets the most out of them. Tough to beat Mahomes and Reid when you can only muster 22-24 points a game. How come he never seems to get a HC offer? He's the DC I respect the most of the opponents the Bills regularly face. He just gets it, like blitzing on that key down late in the game last night to force the field goal try and get the ball back. McDermott might have blitzed, but he might also had played it safe with a soft zone, hoping no one breaks a tackle. Maybe I'm misinformed, but I favor an aggressive offense and an aggressive defense. McD has his moments, but overall he seems to favor ball control, field goals, and "complementary football."🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: C'mon man, you know darn well that regular season games and playoff games are worlds apart. Those regular season wins mean diddly squat. I understand they mean something different (playoffs vs regular season). But in terms of play on the field and coming down to the last minute/ play here play there they are in The same zip code not worlds apart. Edited February 12 by Matt_In_NH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I understand they mean something different (playoffs vs regular season). But in terms of play on the field and coming down to the last minute/ play here play there they are in The same zip code not worlds apart. They are close, the difference between the Bills and the Chiefs is one team plays to win and the other plays not to lose. The 49ers played not to lose last night and it's why they lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Jrb1979 said: They are close, the difference between the Bills and the Chiefs is one team plays to win and the other plays not to lose. The 49ers played not to lose last night and it's why they lost. Where did the Bills play not to lose in the divisional round? They went for it on 4th down. They threw to the end zone to score the TD on 2nd and 9. I don't agree with that statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Where did the Bills play not to lose in the divisional round? They went for it on 4th down. They threw to the end zone to score the TD on 2nd and 9. I don't agree with that statement. I agree the Chiefs just started making more plays than the Bills. Reid and Spags made adjustments and the Bills vaunted offense put up 7 second half points. The Bills put up 17 like the did in the first half and the Bills win that game going away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 28 minutes ago, finn said: Maybe I'm misinformed, but I favor an aggressive offense and an aggressive defense. McD has his moments, but overall he seems to favor ball control, field goals, and "complementary football."🙄 Depends on the personnel and situation. The fact that Wilks went all out when you have a studded front 4 is testament to that aggressiveness has to be your trait through and through and not something you periodically dip into or pull out the bag. You live and die by the aggression just as much as the soft shell passiveness. Finding a coaching balance is absolutely tough and more reason to stick to your identity so your players are more reliant on instincts come crunch time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 If the chiefs are so much more talented across the board with players and coaching, then why do we beat them or only lose to them by 1 score every single time? Seems to me that if they were so much better than they would blow us out each time. If reid is so much better than McD and their talent is so much better as well, then please explain this to me? Reality is, the teams are damn close talent and coaching wise. We have had very good opportunities to beat them twice in the playoffs. Sometimes, it just comes down to luck when you are so similar. We've had luck in the regular season, they've had luck in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 Just now, Mark80 said: If the chiefs are so much more talented across the board with players and coaching, then why do we beat them or only lose to them by 1 score every single time? Seems to me that if they were so much better than they would blow us out each time. If reid is so much better than McD and their talent is so much better as well, then please explain this to me? Reality is, the teams are damn close talent and coaching wise. We have had very good opportunities to beat them twice in the playoffs. Sometimes, it just comes down to luck when you are so similar. We've had luck in the regular season, they've had luck in the playoffs. Because Allen is such a warhorse. Allen is just as good as Mahomes maybe even better than him but def doesn’t have the supporting cast to back him up. I just don’t think you can say that definitive because Mahomes has the hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Big plays by multiple people. Jones was creating havoc on every single big 3rd down play. Blocked EP Butker is nearly automatic. Some good YAC plays by Kelce and Rice Mahomes did the job when the game was in the balance. Adjustments at halftime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 there's really nothing to aregue with here. It seems every year it comes down to one play made or missed, and the Bills seems to always miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 9 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Hard disagree on ‘josh has not been as clutch as mahomes’…he’s been every bit as clutch. The defense just cannot make gamechanging plays and josh has to play a 100% perfect game to win. mahomes was very far from perfect tonight and got the w regardless because they have a game wrecker on defense that always shows up. I don’t think mahomes has played well for anywhere close to 60 minutes in a Super Bowl and their defense/special teams always have a big impact. Josh has not had that luxury in any playoff game… heck we would’ve lost to Indy in the first round that year we made the afc championship if Josh didn’t go full Superman. The defense did everything they could to lose that one 😂 When the game was on the line in OT, Mahomes drove his team down the field for the SB winning TD. That is clutch. I love Josh as our QB but he had the chance to win that game against the chiefs by keeping the ball till the end; instead he went for Hero ball and misfired. That is the difference between the two...it is marginal..but that is what wins the SB 12 minutes ago, Mark80 said: If the chiefs are so much more talented across the board with players and coaching, then why do we beat them or only lose to them by 1 score every single time? Seems to me that if they were so much better than they would blow us out each time. If reid is so much better than McD and their talent is so much better as well, then please explain this to me? Reality is, the teams are damn close talent and coaching wise. We have had very good opportunities to beat them twice in the playoffs. Sometimes, it just comes down to luck when you are so similar. We've had luck in the regular season, they've had luck in the playoffs. If we don't misfire on that lsat drive and forcing to kick a 44 yard FG (with a shaky kicker) then we are moving to the AFCC....But we failed. that is the difference between the two teams. Edited February 12 by ganesh 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: To me for the Bills, to get to the Chiefs level, they need to acquire more high end talent. It is simply amazing to me that Josh Allen has almost single handedly willed this Bills franchise to wins against the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bills have talented players besides Allen but not to the level that the Chiefs. You can argue for Bills guys sure but at most positions the Chiefs have a guy who is better with the exception of LB and WR. To get to the Chiefs level? Bills won at KC in the regular season and then lost by 3 points thanks to a missed field goal in the playoffs. I know the perception is that the Chiefs are miles ahead of the Bills because they just won the Super Bowl. But the reality is that there's a tiny difference between the two teams this season. If they played 10 times, they probably split 5-5. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 kc won last night because san fran choked and made mistakes and kc didnt, it's is just that simple. the poor kick in the extra point, and the fool up field blocking while the punt returner was yelling peter, which was a gift wrapped 7 points was the game. obv kc has better coaching and a better qb and etc etc etc yadda yadda yadda. kc gets suffocated for the entire second half if idiot san fran adjusted their play calling, or more importantly didnt' make awful amateur errors. kc beat us because we had the ghost of aj klien starting (with a fresh rookie riding the pine, smart!), and they beat baltimore because playoff lamer choked and handed them 7 w a foolish fumble (and that fool wr got a 15 yarder and made up for it with a silly reach fumble short of the end zone). this is all exactly like new england. kc is winning tight games because they are better prepared and make fewer errors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Andy Reid is the difference he’s the modern version of Bill Walsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Einstein said: I remember when KC traded up in front us to get McDuffie and thinking “man I hope he sucks and the better player falls to us”. I remember thinking “Please don’t take Elam. Woolen is a better prospect.” I didn’t like Elam as a prospect that year. Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 People act like it’s a math equation, it isn’t. The ‘best team’ rarely wins the Super Bowl. You need a good/great roster You need good depth You need a great offensive system You need ‘money’ plays you can go to in big moments, that you ‘keep behind glass’ for those moments You need players who rise to the occasion. You need luck as well. Lots of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Best coaching. Not sure we improved at all this offseason. Imagine we will continue to get outclassed in the playoffs, unless Reid/Spags retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 25 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: To get to the Chiefs level? Bills won at KC in the regular season and then lost by 3 points thanks to a missed field goal in the playoffs. I know the perception is that the Chiefs are miles ahead of the Bills because they just won the Super Bowl. But the reality is that there's a tiny difference between the two teams this season. If they played 10 times, they probably split 5-5. There is a difference between regular season and playoff football. Something the Bills are 0-3 against the Chiefs in. If it’s 50/50 the Bills would have won one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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