Gregg Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 https://sports.yahoo.com/charges-counter-charges-divorce-between-210316825.html? If this creates more dysfunction in Dolphins land. Good. Yesterday the Jets. Now the Fins. 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It was always a strange mix of personalities. McDaniel wants to be friends with the players while Vic wants them to drop and give him 20. That was probably never going to work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Fangio did not do a good enough job there. Simple. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Low Positive said: It was always a strange mix of personalities. McDaniel wants to be friends with the players while Vic wants them to drop and give him 20. That was probably never going to work. Sort of a reverse mcdermott chad hall situation... Not that McDermott is a drop and give me 20 type of guy, but he wants boundaries between coaches and players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Fangio's an old school coach. A football lifer. McDaniel is an odd duck with odd affectations. Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think the team will continue to thrive in the early season, continue to falter later in the season and in the playoffs (if they make it that far). I think that, once they consistently start to not be able to break through, McDaniel's act is going to wear thin quickly and things are going to go south fast. I also think Tua is just good enough to get your hopes up every year, and just bad enough to dash them when the stakes are highest. I do not buy this version of the Dolphins, with McDaniel as coach and Tua as QB, as being long term contenders to the Bills for AFC East supremacy. Edited February 1 by Logic 7 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Fangio did a very good job in Miami. But you have to drill down past base statistics to see it. If you're lazy and just click on NFL.com stats, you will miss the improvement. I am thankful that he is no longer there. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Sort of a reverse mcdermott chad hall situation... Not that McDermott is a drop and give me 20 type of guy, but he wants boundaries between coaches and players. He does? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm genuinely curios if he really was like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Westside said: He does? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm genuinely curios if he really was like that. Part of the dunne article - but apparently he was pissed at hall for accepting a truck from the WRs at christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Logic said: Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think that too 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Part of the dunne article - but apparently he was pissed at hall for accepting a truck from the WRs at christmas. That's crazy! I never knew that about him. Thanks for cluing me in. Much appreciated. 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Fangio's an old school coach. A football lifer. McDaniel is an odd duck with odd affectations. Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think the team will continue to thrive in the early season, continue to falter later in the season and in the playoffs (if they make it that far). I think that, once they consistently start to not be able to break through, McDaniel's act is going to wear thin quickly and things are going to go south fast. I also think Tua is just good enough to get your hopes up every year, and just bad enough to dash them when the stakes are highest. I do not buy this version of the Dolphins, with McDaniel as coach and Tua as QB, as being long term contenders to the Bills for AFC East supremacy. Great post! I have to agree with you on pretty much all of it! Great job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 They looked like a team that was more worried about their celebrations then putting the time in to hang with the big dogs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, Low Positive said: It was always a strange mix of personalities. McDaniel wants to be friends with the players while Vic wants them to drop and give him 20. That was probably never going to work. Fangio is the past; McDaniel, goofy as he is, is the future. The Vic Freakin' Fangios of the league will all be gone in another 5 years. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Fangio's an old school coach. A football lifer. McDaniel is an odd duck with odd affectations. Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think the team will continue to thrive in the early season, continue to falter later in the season and in the playoffs (if they make it that far). I think that, once they consistently start to not be able to break through, McDaniel's act is going to wear thin quickly and things are going to go south fast. I also think Tua is just good enough to get your hopes up every year, and just bad enough to dash them when the stakes are highest. I do not buy this version of the Dolphins, with McDaniel as coach and Tua as QB, as being long term contenders to the Bills for AFC East supremacy. Couldn't agree more with all this. I don't think it's an unpopular take at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 13 minutes ago, Logic said: Fangio's an old school coach. A football lifer. McDaniel is an odd duck with odd affectations. Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think the team will continue to thrive in the early season, continue to falter later in the season and in the playoffs (if they make it that far). I think that, once they consistently start to not be able to break through, McDaniel's act is going to wear thin quickly and things are going to go south fast. I also think Tua is just good enough to get your hopes up every year, and just bad enough to dash them when the stakes are highest. I do not buy this version of the Dolphins, with McDaniel as coach and Tua as QB, as being long term contenders to the Bills for AFC East supremacy. This sounds exactly like the posts I see on finhaven.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It’s painfully obvious after watching behind the scenes on Hard knocks that McDaniels tries very hard to be one of the guys and probably is best served as an OC, but being hamstrung by a limited QB is doing him no favours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 My gripe with Fangio is he did such a bad job in Denver as an older, defensive minded HC that I think he scared other teams off from trying guys like Spagnola (tho his Rams tenure may have done that) and Lou Anarumo at HC. Effectively leaving the defensive side of the ball in good hands for the Chiefs and Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 22 minutes ago, Logic said: Fangio's an old school coach. A football lifer. McDaniel is an odd duck with odd affectations. Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. I think the team will continue to thrive in the early season, continue to falter later in the season and in the playoffs (if they make it that far). I think that, once they consistently start to not be able to break through, McDaniel's act is going to wear thin quickly and things are going to go south fast. I also think Tua is just good enough to get your hopes up every year, and just bad enough to dash them when the stakes are highest. I do not buy this version of the Dolphins, with McDaniel as coach and Tua as QB, as being long term contenders to the Bills for AFC East supremacy. 💯 agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Fangio did not do a good enough job there. Simple. I thought he did a pretty good job, not against Buffalo of course but 95% of DCs don't do a good job against us 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I still think Fangio's refusal to 'do the Waddle' did him in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Logic said: Unpopular opinion: I think the Mike McDaniel thing is closer to souring completely and blowing up than it is to breaking through to championship level football. Feels like it might be right around the time where teams have what McDaniel's likes to do dialed in and that could make things a lot tougher on them next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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