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H2o Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 A single Senior Bowl practice does not erase what you see on tape with Leggette. He could have been pressing, he could have had some crap passes thrown his way. Timing, or lack thereof, is an issue with these things in a lot of cases. These drills, like noted by others, are always more favorable for projected Slot WR's. We're looking for a #2 WR, with #1 potential, who also can take the lid off of a defense. He had 7 catches for 77 against one of the best defenses in the country in Georgia. The guy can run like 23 mph, meaning he can take any catch to the house if he gets a lane. Can you imagine what a guy with wheels like that and JA17 could do on those scramble drills? He had 71 catches for 1,255 yards in the SEC with Spencer Rattler as his QB. He's still one of those guys with that potential. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Shrine practice from a couple of days ago… Trying to find a Day 3 edge that might have some upside … Xavier Thomas … … 24 years old though …and has an injury history … 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Sound up! My God this is my fav offseason week on Twitter. If you don't make sure you follow senior bowl and Jim nagey accts at bare minimum this week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Watching today's 1 on 1's: Tez Walker REALLY struggling. Dropping almost literally every pass so far, telegraphing routes, struggling with press, etc. Javon Baker continuing to do a great job with his releases and created a ton of separation on one of his crossing routes against Kalen King (who was once viewed as a 1st round prospect but I believe he's slid down a lot this season). Brenden Rice doing a much better job off the release today than yesterday but just doesn't have the burst to pull away/maintain separation. Roman Wilson's footwork is really great. Non-WR related: Quinyon Mitchell looks like such a stud covering these guys. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) One thing I've made note of, Ricky Pearsall won people over on Day 1 and has looked decent so far today, but the real noteworthy thing is after playing out of the slot on the vast majority of his snaps in college, they have him almost exclusively out wide here. Edit: And he's looked good lined up out wide. Interesting development. Edited January 31 by DCOrange 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, H2o said: A single Senior Bowl practice does not erase what you see on tape with Leggette. He could have been pressing, he could have had some crap passes thrown his way. Timing, or lack thereof, is an issue with these things in a lot of cases. These drills, like noted by others, are always more favorable for projected Slot WR's. We're looking for a #2 WR, with #1 potential, who also can take the lid off of a defense. He had 7 catches for 77 against one of the best defenses in the country in Georgia. The guy can run like 23 mph, meaning he can take any catch to the house if he gets a lane. Can you imagine what a guy with wheels like that and JA17 could do on those scramble drills? He had 71 catches for 1,255 yards in the SEC with Spencer Rattler as his QB. He's still one of those guys with that potential. With the struggles of Johnson, and Burke the year prior I suspect he slips to day 2. All a little shorter and I suspect timed slower than initially thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Ohio State DT Michael Hall has looked really nice. Currently viewed as a Day 3 pick I think; might be one to keep an eye on. This rep between Roman Wilson and Quinyon Mitchell (Toledo DB that's been dominating everyone). Mitchell slips and allows Wilson to get open easily as a result. Wilson also slips but makes a crazy catch. Edited January 31 by DCOrange 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 34 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Ohio State DT Michael Hall has looked really nice. Charlie Campbell reported Hall has major character concerns: https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-senior-bowl-rumors-monday.php Quote While the practice performance of Senior Bowl players is the most important part of the Senior Bowl process, a close second is how players interview with team evaluators at night. One player who must ace the interviews is Ohio State defensive tackle Michael Hall Jr. Team sources from around the NFL say Hall has a first-round skill set, but he comes with major character concerns. They say Hall has a reputation for being a bad guy, and the character concerns are significant enough that it could knock him out of Round 1 of the 2024 NFL Draft. Hall must interview well with teams at the Senior Bowl, the NFL Scouting Combine, and during pre-draft visits. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 McConkey just tears up DBs in one on one’s. He’s one of those guys that I don’t care how he tests. I want him on my team. Matches the tape as well. He’ll prob go round 2 but could be a sneaky late round 1 guy 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: McConkey just tears up DBs in one on one’s. He’s one of those guys that I don’t care how he tests. I want him on my team. Matches the tape as well. He’ll prob go round 2 but could be a sneaky late round 1 guy Likely gone before Bills’ 2nd pick and maybe a little high for him at pick 28. If guys like Legette and Walker continue to struggle at the Senior Bowl, maybe McConkey will pass them. McConkey’s size is borderline for outside, I’m less concerned about his speed - he looks fast “enough” on tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 21 hours ago, eball said: Up and down first practice for WR Devontez Walker, but he had the fastest field speed so far at 21.18 mph. — Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) January 30, 2024 That's what I'm talking about. Tez can fly. He should be there at the end of Round 2 if we got Dline or Safety in Round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Thrash and Javon Baker are two of the non-1st round wide outs that I have circled based on my spreadsheet and highlights that I want to research more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So he's more of a slot right? which isn't the big hole on our offense. And yeah it's highlights but man he looks like he might be very good. And this catch is just ridiculous. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 DT T'Vondre Sweat is getting rave reviews today. He is likely to go in the 25-45 range. I could see the Bills really liking him as much as fans would hate the pick in R1... Profiles as a monstrous 1T at the next level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So he's more of a slot right? which isn't the big hole on our offense. And yeah it's highlights but man he looks like he might be very good. And this catch is just ridiculous. Mentioned him a little ways up I think. He played the vast majority of his snaps in the slot in college, but he's working almost exclusively out wide at the Senior Bowl and has mostly looked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 51 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: McConkey just tears up DBs in one on one’s. He’s one of those guys that I don’t care how he tests. I want him on my team. Matches the tape as well. He’ll prob go round 2 but could be a sneaky late round 1 guy He is a guy that’s growing on me … think he can be an early and solid contributor… problem is 28 is too high and I think he is gone by 60 … Edited January 31 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I heard Doug Whaley still can’t go within 500 feet of the Senior Bowl… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 A couple nice reps from Legette here: 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The more I see, the more confident I am that there is an immediate WR2 and potential WR1 to be had at the back end of the 1st round. Especially with an expected run on QB expected 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: The more I see, the more confident I am that there is an immediate WR2 and potential WR1 to be had at the back end of the 1st round. Especially with an expected run on QB expected Brother this draft will be littered with future WR1's, maybe even some in the mid-rounds. Whoever we get has that #17 advantage as well. Exciting times ahead i believe😊 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Gabe Hall moving up a round a day… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Ricky Pearsall is a DUDE! as well has the size as well not just a slot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 I'm going to be so mad when we draft him in the 1st round. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I'm going to be so mad when we draft him in the 1st round. Do you rate him though ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 54 minutes ago, HappyDays said: A couple nice reps from Legette here: JPJ is going to be a plug and play 10 year starter at center in the NFL. If he were to get to us at #60 I'd do it. My views on Legette are well known. I was imploring people not to overreact yesterday, I say the same today. His tape is a day 1 player to me. I am resolute on that. 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Do you rate him though ? I'll admit I have a thing for massive men that play in the trenches. I'm a believer in size. Technique of course matters, but ultimately it's just hard to move a 360+ pound human being multiple times a game. Same reason I liked the Torrence pick last year. And I think large DTs have become even more important these days with undersized LBs becoming the standard across the league. But as usual it's a matter of the positional drop off from 1st round to later in the draft and in free agency. Capable 1Ts are not that hard to find, and elite 1Ts don't win games on their own. Defensive line is arguably just as big a need as WR right now but if we're going that route in the 1st round it has to be a pass rusher. Not a gap defender. If Sweat can develop into a Vita Vea type where he can dominate both areas then of course it would be a great pick. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'll admit I have a thing for massive men that play in the trenches. I'm a believer in size. Technique of course matters, but ultimately it's just hard to move a 360+ pound human being multiple times a game. Same reason I liked the Torrence pick last year. And I think large DTs have become even more important these days with undersized LBs becoming the standard across the league. But as usual it's a matter of the positional drop off from 1st round to later in the draft and in free agency. Capable 1Ts are not that hard to find, and elite 1Ts don't win games on their own. Defensive line is arguably just as big a need as WR right now but if we're going that route in the 1st round it has to be a pass rusher. Not a gap defender. If Sweat can develop into a Vita Vea type where he can dominate both areas then of course it would be a great pick. Yea I'd hate Sweat in round 1 because of positional value. He won't make it to #60 but if he did I'd sprint to the podium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: JPJ is going to be a plug and play 10 year starter at center in the NFL. If he were to get to us at #60 I'd do it. I get it … Positional value … Someone will say “F it “ though and take him in the first and have themselves an all pro level player in the next couple of years … 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 50 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: Brother this draft will be littered with future WR1's, maybe even some in the mid-rounds. Whoever we get has that #17 advantage as well. Exciting times ahead i believe😊 From your lips to God's ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I get it … Positional value … Someone will say “F it “ though and take him in the first and have themselves an all pro level player in the next couple of years … He will go between 25 and 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: He will go between 25 and 40. Steelers could take him at 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Steelers could take him at 20 That is high for a 1T who I am not sure rushes the passer all that well. But Pittsburgh is a 3-4 team so taking him as a nose... I can see it. But I wouldn't say that's a great pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That is high for a 1T who I am not sure rushes the passer all that well. But Pittsburgh is a 3-4 team so taking him as a nose... I can see it. But I wouldn't say that's a great pick. I’m talking about JPJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m talking about JPJ Ohhhhh. JPJ could go round 1. For sure. And zero point zero chance he gets to #60. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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