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WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: I've been wondering about this. Granted, I think that if Beane has the ammunition to go up a few spots and get Brian Thomas (or perhaps higher) he might. But if Thomas is gone by the teens without getting a sniff, and Troy Franklin, Coleman, Mitchell, Legette AND Howard are all there at 28 they might kick back into the mid-30s to get a third. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 18 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Ok I’m off the Brian Thomas train and all in the Rome Odunze train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ok I’m off the Brian Thomas train and all in the Rome Odunze train. Or, just be on many trains! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ok I’m off the Brian Thomas train and all in the Rome Odunze train. Question will be whether we’ll pay the ticket price for the Rome train. i do love how excited he gets, though. Gets you pumped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 If we could somehow end up with Brian Thomas Junior and Cooper Dejean, that would be great. We would have to spend a little capital to trade up, and of course Dejean would need to fall to the 2nd round, for this to be remotely possible. It would fill our 2 biggest needs, with (2) of the best players at their position. Assuming we use Dejean as some type of safety/CB hybrid role. I'm sure McDermott and stuff could find a creative way to implement him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ok I’m off the Brian Thomas train and all in the Rome Odunze train. They are both great prospects. Odunze has had the opportunity to show much more than Thomas (probably because of Nabers). In terms of demonstrated ability and risk mitigation. Odunze is a significantly better prospect. He’s just not a raw talent, however impressive.. He’s a superb and refined technician who instinctively knows how to play the position. At the combine he showed, for those who didn’t already know it, that he is a mature young man and a very coachable player. He absolutely belongs in the first group with the other two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Unless Odunze falls into the mid-teens, which is not totally impossible IMO, I don't see any way this can happen. Teams drafting in the top 9 are not going to want to move back to 28, even for a first round pick next year. People need to understand that the Bills' 2025 first round pick is a devalued asset...anyone acquiring it will have to assume it will be a late-first round pick and the 2025 draft is not expected to be as strong as this one, plus (obviously) the pick can't be used until next year, which devalues it further... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Or, just be on many trains! Choo Choo baby!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that it’s POSSIBLE that you could give them something like 28, 128, 2025 1st and the Minnesota 2025 2nd. The fact that it’s the Vikings pick that we got for Diggs is helpful. If Darnold is their QB most people probably think that pick is in the top 10 of the round. If they think that the Bills regress a little they might be thinking: 28th this year, 128th, 20ish and 40ish next year. That’s starting to get warmer. Of course they’ll throw out a big ask but if you put that offer on the table I think that they’d say yes. They’re trying to create a bidding war for McCarthy (which is hilarious to me). Maybe. But I think it's going to cost more than that. The price for Atlanta to go from 27 to 6 for Julio Jones was a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2011 and a 1st and a 4th in 2012. So i'm not sure that a 1st and a 4th this year and a 1st and 2nd next year would be enough to go from 28 to 4 when it cost more to go from 27 to 6 for Atlanta. I think the 3 1st's asking price isn't equal from picks 5-32. I'd guess with where we're picking, they'd probably want more to move from 4 to 28. Edited April 11 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) considering how many short passes to the flat / screens that Joe Brady seems to run… Worthy could be a serious weapon for us. Not only that, he has shown ability to stop/start, create separation and lose DB’s on routes. He is also a vertical threat Edited April 11 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Man, I do not want us to draft Worthy. I just don't see him working out in the NFL. I've also been against Keon Coleman, but I'd much rather have him than Worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 947 said: Man, I do not want us to draft Worthy. I just don't see him working out in the NFL. I've also been against Keon Coleman, but I'd much rather have him than Worthy. If someone like Tank Dell who is shorter, slower and maybe even lighter than Worthy can be good in the NFL…. Why can’t Xavier? He is not a one trick pony IMO he is better than Tank Dell right now. Edited April 11 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Maybe. But I think it's going to cost more than that. The price for Atlanta to go from 27 to 6 for Julio Jones was a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2011 and a 1st and a 4th in 2012. So i'm not sure that a 1st and a 4th this year and a 1st and 2nd next year would be enough to go from 28 to 4 when it cost more to go from 27 to 6 for Atlanta. I think the 3 1st's asking price isn't equal from picks 5-32. I'd guess with where we're picking, they'd probably want more to move from 4 to 28. It depends on the demand. If teams ACTUALLY want McCarthy that bad (again hilarious) the price will be higher. If teams are smart that Bills offer is reasonable. The Cards can jump back up and get one of the top 3 in this scenario and still have extra draft assets if they wanted to. It’s not likely but not impossible either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, mannc said: Unless Odunze falls into the mid-teens, which is not totally impossible IMO, I don't see any way this can happen. Teams drafting in the top 9 are not going to want to move back to 28, even for a first round pick next year. People need to understand that the Bills' 2025 first round pick is a devalued asset...anyone acquiring it will have to assume it will be a late-first round pick and the 2025 draft is not expected to be as strong as this one, plus (obviously) the pick can't be used until next year, which devalues it further... Chicago is the only top 10 team who I can see would as they will likely want more this year. Which means you’re giving up 60 to get there. Edited April 11 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, BBFL said: Chicago is the only top 10 team who I can see would as they will likely want more this year. Which means you’re giving up 60 to get there. what’s their OT situation in Chicago? Maybe they’d accept…. 28, 128, 160, Spencer Brown, 2025 1st, 3rd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, BBFL said: Chicago is the only top 10 team who I can see would as they will likely want more this year. Which means you’re giving up 60 to get there. I agree. I think Chicago is the only real possibility. They do not have a second round pick, so pick 60 might tempt them (along with a first or second next year). The problem is, that regime is on the hot seat and if things don't go well this year, they might not have the opportunity to use next year's draft picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, 947 said: Man, I do not want us to draft Worthy. I just don't see him working out in the NFL. I've also been against Keon Coleman, but I'd much rather have him than Worthy. Fella over on the Sabres' forum posted a comment I thought was interesting, so I asked if I could post it over here. It's not inside info, but I think it is an informed opinion. "Talk[ed] to my college football guy. He called McConkey a great #2 receiver and considering he lives under 5 miles away from where Ladd plays and has seen 100% of his snaps, I'm gonna trust him here. Also said he's not a Worthy fan. Thinks McConkey at 28 is probably a tiny reach but would take him there as he will be a hot commodity if available later. Also added the following "I'd also think about what Ladd would look like in KC. He's a receiver that would almost instantly work with Mahomes and Andy Reids offense. If not there, Todd Monken is in Baltimore." Edited April 11 by Dr. Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I like the idea of a trade down to the early 2nd round and grabbing two WRs. I don't think trading for one of the top 3 WRs is realistic. Or at least not a good idea. If the Bills give up 28, 60, 2025 1, 2 how do they fix the rest of the team? Our DEs are Rousseau and Von. Next year we pay $13mil for Rousseau if we want to keep him. After that he probably costs $20mil/year and gets a Tremaine Edmunds type contract for someone I think is a good player who is going to get paid like an all pro. We are going to need at least 1 probably 2 starting DEs. Our safeties are Rapp & Edwards. We have no O-line or CB depth. We have $5mil in cap space next year with only 38 players on the roster, 2024/2025 rookies not accounted for, and Rasul Douglas & Spencer Brown as free agents we might want to re-sign. If we trade up to the top of the draft for a WR and have no 1st or 2nd round picks and no cap space how do we even start fixing the defense until 2026/2027? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) On 4/11/2024 at 9:00 PM, Adam727 said: . Our safeties are Rapp & Edwards. We have no O-line or CB depth. Agreed that safties are a concern but a lot of decent ones still available after the draft. We have solid O line depth. Van Denmark and Anderson will contribute this year. Plus we signed Collins. We could get a guy later in the draft though I agree Not worried on corner because it’s the one position they hit on late guys often. Beane hit on Taron, Levi, Dane, Benford all on day 3 I do agree with you that we need to go early and often at WR. Josh needs some good young outside WRs. This is the draft to do it Edited April 14 by NeverOutNick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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