ControllerOfPlanetX Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I've been wanting a premier pass rusher in his prime soooooo bad for decades now...that is one of the most important championship pieces after getting the QB. Imagine our Defense with a TJ Watt, Nick Bosa or Aidan Hutchinson...BAD THINGS MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Von Miller did have 8 sacks in 10 games last season before tearing his ACL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 SAM ADAMS!!! He was a beast. I know Mario got the sacks, but Ted Washington and Sam Adams were terrors! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Seeing these names like Jones and Schobel makes me wonder if people even understand what an impact guy looks like. AJ's performance against Jacksonville is what it looks like. A defensive lineman who literally alters the course of game perhaps even multiple times. Schobel had good stats but he's not wrecking a game like that. Probably the last guy who could do it was Mario. Edited January 27 by Mikie2times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I'll throw in Sam Adams and Ted Washington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Von Miller pre ACL injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_diablo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Mount Washington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) I feel like in today's NFL it's a mistake to invest too heavily in DL. Elite offenses can almost totally neutralize pass rush either through scheming and releasing the ball in under 2.5 seconds(Purdy, Burrow, Tua) or just having an elusive QB that can extend plays with their legs(Allen, Mahomes, Lamar). Look how our divisional rounds ended the last 2 years. Burrow carved us up like a surgeon last year. This year neither Allen or Mahomes were sacked as both QBs simply avoided any pressure either used their legs or in Mahome's case ripped off huge chunk plays. Good DL will manhandle average teams but when facing the top of the top, they become ineffective. The positions are still important moreso for the sake of run defense IMO but in the Bills case we have guys on the edge who like to over pursue the QB and often leave huge openings to the outside. Mahomes, Pacheco and Edwards-Helaire each had 20+ yd runs against us last week. If the Bills take DL too early in this next draft that would be a critical mistake IMO. Recent history has proven it doesn't matter how much you invest in those positions, their is huge diminishing returns when you face elite offenses in this league. Edited January 27 by Lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 hours ago, Maybe Someday said: Chris Kelsay Lol lunch pail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Mario Williams was the last truly elite game changer we had up front. I think Ed was pretty close this past year. Yes Sunday was not a good game for him, but I have confidence he will build again next season. Thuney had a 99.1 percent win rate this season, so I can’t really fault Ed. Thuney was off-the-charts good this season. The bigger question posed by a very close friend who is a diehard Pats fan (going back to the Grogan/Sam Bam Cunningham days) is why Belichick let him go. Yet another terrible personnel decision by BB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Thuney had a 99.1 percent win rate this season, so I can’t really fault Ed. Thuney was off-the-charts good this season. The bigger question posed by a very close friend who is a diehard Pats fan (going back to the Grogan/Sam Bam Cunningham days) is why Belichick let him go. Yet another terrible personnel decision by BB. And just our luck he is out for tomorrow. Typical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 21 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Thuney had a 99.1 percent win rate this season, so I can’t really fault Ed. Thuney was off-the-charts good this season. The bigger question posed by a very close friend who is a diehard Pats fan (going back to the Grogan/Sam Bam Cunningham days) is why Belichick let him go. Yet another terrible personnel decision by BB. I fault Ed. It’s understandable, but like they say, you want to be a star, you gotta give me a star effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Aaron Maybin! Most talented painter we've ever seen on the Bills DL How embarrassing was that pick? OBD was so inept, they didn’t even realize he could get on the field for 3rd Downs… because he was so ***** light! Arakpo, Cushing, Jenkins, Maclin, Harvin, Clay Mathews & A Davis all came immediately after! I cringe when that name comes up associated with that buffoon Head Office! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Mario Williams was the last truly elite game changer we had up front. I think Ed was pretty close this past year. Yes Sunday was not a good game for him, but I have confidence he will build again next season. Oliver strikes me as mediocre and a bust, overall. Despite his best season of his career this past year. How about Ted Washington? I'll add him to the list of good ones since Bruce. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Oliver strikes me as mediocre and a bust, overall. Despite his best season of his career this past year. How about Ted Washington? I'll add him to the list of good ones since Bruce. He isn't mediocre. Or a bust. If he strikes you as that, that is a you problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The one and only Ted Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Aaron Maybin! Most talented painter we've ever seen on the Bills DL Ha ha. The Buffalo News did a feature on his "art work" several years ago. Garbage in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Bruce Smith #1 Tom Sestak behind Bruce Ted Washington behind Sestak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Lost said: I feel like in today's NFL it's a mistake to invest too heavily in DL. Elite offenses can almost totally neutralize pass rush either through scheming and releasing the ball in under 2.5 seconds(Purdy, Burrow, Tua) or just having an elusive QB that can extend plays with their legs(Allen, Mahomes, Lamar). Look how our divisional rounds ended the last 2 years. Burrow carved us up like a surgeon last year. This year neither Allen or Mahomes were sacked as both QBs simply avoided any pressure either used their legs or in Mahome's case ripped off huge chunk plays. Good DL will manhandle average teams but when facing the top of the top, they become ineffective. The positions are still important moreso for the sake of run defense IMO but in the Bills case we have guys on the edge who like to over pursue the QB and often leave huge openings to the outside. Mahomes, Pacheco and Edwards-Helaire each had 20+ yd runs against us last week. If the Bills take DL too early in this next draft that would be a critical mistake IMO. Recent history has proven it doesn't matter how much you invest in those positions, their is huge diminishing returns when you face elite offenses in this league. Just curious, then ...do you think Detroit wasted a 2nd overall pick on Hutchinson, and he is NOT one of the main reasons Detroit is in NFC championship game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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