Screen: what’s wrong with us ?

[Italian Bills]

I mean: why aren’t we able to run screen plays more often ? 
 

What’s the problem with that ? 

[Augie]

The least of my concerns right now. 

[Warcodered]

Defenses are terrified of Josh running around the side.

[Simon]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:28 PM, Italian Bills said:

I mean: why aren’t we able to run screen plays more often ? 
 

What’s the problem with that ? 

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Screens generally require more athletic and mobile OLines; ours is not necessarily suited to that.

[AlfaBill]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:31 PM, Warcodered said:

Defenses are terrified of Josh running around the side.

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Tasker has said this on OBL repeatedly. Not that I know more than he does but I’m not sure I buy that. I can’t remember the last bills team to run a good screen in recent memory 

[Warcodered]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:34 PM, AlfaBill said:

Tasker has said this on OBL repeatedly. Not that I know more than he does but I’m not sure I buy that. I can’t remember the last bills team to run a good screen in recent memory 

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That's like a chicken and the egg question, what good Bills offense are you wondering about before Josh was the QB?

[Trev]

We’ve run several successful screens this year…

[AlfaBill]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:36 PM, Warcodered said:

That's like a chicken and the egg question, what good Bills offense are you wondering about before Josh was the QB?

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Maybe the Bledsoe or Fitz eras? Nothing stands out after Kelly/Thurman 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 PM, Simon said:

 

Screens generally require more athletic and mobile OLines; ours is not necessarily suited to that.

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I mean our pulling/trap game has been excellent, but that does not translate to screens. We have seen RBs in the pass game though on blitz beaters. 

[mikemac2001]

I think teams spy Josh so much when we go to screens it gets blown up bc they are just sitting there in perfect position 

[Meatloaf63]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 PM, Simon said:

 

Screens generally require more athletic and mobile OLines; ours is not necessarily suited to that.

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Except even the ones using a couple wide receivers almost always fail. Allens ball placement is part of it, not certain of the rest.

[NewEra]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:34 PM, AlfaBill said:

Tasker has said this on OBL repeatedly. Not that I know more than he does but I’m not sure I buy that. I can’t remember the last bills team to run a good screen in recent memory 

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Chan Gailey

[GunnerBill]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 PM, Simon said:

 

Screens generally require more athletic and mobile OLines; ours is not necessarily suited to that.

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You also need a defense that is all coming up the field. And the way teams play Josh that is rare. 

 

And Josh's placement on those shorter throws isn't elite IMO. If a receiver has to hesitate to secure the catch it means your element of surprise has gone.

 

EDIT: combination of all of those factors IMO.

Edited January 14, 2024 by GunnerBill

[Not at the table Karlos]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:34 PM, AlfaBill said:

Tasker has said this on OBL repeatedly. Not that I know more than he does but I’m not sure I buy that. I can’t remember the last bills team to run a good screen in recent memory 

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Gaileys teams could execute screens. Haven’t been good at them since. 

[Buffalo716]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 PM, Simon said:

 

Screens generally require more athletic and mobile OLines; ours is not necessarily suited to that.

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We have a bunch of great athletes on the line ... Dawkins is a pulling machine and super athletic, Spencer Brown is an Athletic freak , Mitch Morse is one of the more athletic centers in the NFL...

 

Our only phone booth is Torrence

 

Teams don't try and over rush the bills because Josh will kill you for lack of gap integrity... Theu generally try to contain the edge which also hampers screens 

[rajinka]

My take is they think we're awesome at them but flabbergasted when they don't work in game.  Every week in practice we probably take every screen to the house against our crappy screen D. 

[Stroke 17]

Much more concerned with stopping the screen. The pitts passing game is all about short screens to backs and wr's'

 

[Governor]

Josh doesn’t throw short, soft touch passes well.

[K D]

  On 1/14/2024 at 10:31 PM, Warcodered said:

Defenses are terrified of Josh running around the side.

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Middle screen 

[Augie]

  On 1/14/2024 at 11:55 PM, KDIGGZ said:

Middle screen 

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I was just thinking that. I’d like to see them try it, I think? It seems like so much of the pressure comes up the middle. Now, is that harder to execute? Is there some other reason that’s a bad idea?  IDK