The pass to Johnson at the end of the first half...

[eball]

...ok, so first of all, we KNOW Josh should have only thrown the ball to a guy in the endzone or thrown it away.  That was a mistake.  But if you get past that, it was a good throw to an open guy and it looked like Johnson was going to score until Baker blew him up with a helmet to helmet hit at the goal line.  Why no flag there?   It was blatant and knocked Johnson out of the game with a concussion.

 

[ElMarko]

The referees essentially took 7 points off the board there. Pretty confident the Bills could have scored from 4-5 feet out. It was a blatant head target.

 

[Low Positive]

Just now, eball said:

...ok, so first of all, we KNOW Josh should have only thrown the ball to a guy in the endzone or thrown it away.  That was a mistake.  But if you get past that, it was a good throw to an open guy and it looked like Johnson was going to score until Baker blew him up with a helmet to helmet hit at the goal line.  Why no flag there?   It was blatant and knocked Johnson out of the game with a concussion.

 

All of that. It was also the same mistake that Mahomes made in the AFC CG two years ago that caused a screaming match in the tunnel at HT. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I had no issues with the throw. He got tackled at the 1. It was a good effort all around.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, eball said:

...ok, so first of all, we KNOW Josh should have only thrown the ball to a guy in the endzone or thrown it away.  That was a mistake.  But if you get past that, it was a good throw to an open guy and it looked like Johnson was going to score until Baker blew him up with a helmet to helmet hit at the goal line.  Why no flag there?   It was blatant and knocked Johnson out of the game with a concussion.

 

 

Because the League didn't want Johnson to finish the game and they wanted Miami to have a 7 point lead at half.  It was clearly scripted.

[MikePJ76]

I have not seen it announced anywhere but has Baker been given a fine yet for the hit?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I had no issues with the throw. He got tackled at the 1. It was a good effort all around.

Aka ‘not even close’ to cris collingsworth hahaha I couldn’t believe he said that 

[eball]

In college Baker would have been thrown out of the game.

 

[DapperCam]

I actually feel like the throw is a fine decision. FGs aren’t going to win a Super Bowl. If you can make a throw that will give a 75% chance of a TD, you do it and hope your guy makes a play.

 

Maybe if Johnson runs his route a little deeper it’s a TD. Maybe if he had a little bit more wiggle he gets in. Maybe if he realizes it’s the last play of the half he risks a fumble and stretches the ball way out.

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I have not seen it announced anywhere but has Baker been given a fine yet for the hit?

Not that I've seen but Josh and Dalton cumulatively broke his wrist or something, he's done for the season.

[Royale with Cheese]

I think it's a simple as the ref didn't see it or wasn't sure and didn't want a game changing play on uncertainty.  

[blitzboy54]

There are two problems here. First no call on the helmet to helmet (this being the second BEYOND obvious foul that should have been called, first being the Knox PI) the other issue is McD waisted the last TO with 57 seconds left. We were over the 50, had a first down and plenty of time. Just spike it. 

Edited January 10 by blitzboy54

[KDIGGZ]

This is football, not tiddlywinks. I'm fine with the hit given the situation. I wouldn't want them getting a flag if that was our D making the stop.

 

As for Josh, that cost us at least 3 points. Also the first INT to nobody in the end zone was another 3. Also the sack fumble was possibly another 3. That's 9 points Josh alone cost us. Yes he also scored some points but we won't have the luxury to give up 9 points to the good teams in the playoffs

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

There are two problems here. First no call on the helmet to helmet (this being the second BEYOND obvious foul that should have been called, first being the Knox PI) the other issue is McD waisted the last TO with 57 seconds left. We were over the 50, had a first down and plenty of time. Just spike it. 

 

I have always been told you don't spike it unless there's under 20 seconds left and you're not on 4th down.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Let’s be honest, nobody was thinking about helmet to helmet til the replay.  Both players ducked for leverage and the defender won.  

[zow2]

From the field level video I saw behind Josh, it was pretty crazy to see how wide open Ty Johnson was when he caught that ball, and how fast the guys closed on him. Josh had to think that was a TD when he released the ball.  Clearly helmet to helmet but as we have seen, the refs basically stopped calling that...even on the Bills.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Good play overall by Josh too.  That’s a TD 80% of the time.

[Mango]

13 minutes ago, eball said:

...ok, so first of all, we KNOW Josh should have only thrown the ball to a guy in the endzone or thrown it away.  That was a mistake.  But if you get past that, it was a good throw to an open guy and it looked like Johnson was going to score until Baker blew him up with a helmet to helmet hit at the goal line.  Why no flag there?   It was blatant and knocked Johnson out of the game with a concussion.

 

 

I was screaming we should have had one more shot at the 1 after that. 

[Charles Romes]

This was just another example of the media feasting on Allen’s supposed error-proneness since they have no ability to come up with anything else.  He had a great chance to score on that catch, but Baker made a great play. 

[BullBuchanan]

Good teams don't cry about flags they didn't get. It was a bad decision to throw that ball because the end result was very likely to happen and it did. He could have tackled him lower and it would have been the same thing.