chongli Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) UPDATE: Controversial referee Brad Allen has been named as alternate Referee for the game. Post is further down the thread here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We also had Cheffers in Week 1 at the Jets and Week 14 at Kansas City. (And Week 1 in 2022 at the Rams.) Referee only. Full crew to be announced later. From the website: https://www.footballzebras.com/2024/01/nfl-assigns-officiating-crews-for-the-2023-24-wild-card-playoffs/ "AFC Wild Card: Steelers at Bills, 1 p.m. CBS PARAMOUNT+ Carl Cheffers is the referee, who is in his 24rd season and 16th as referee. This is Cheffers’s 18th postseason assignment, including 5 Wild Card Playoffs, 7 Divisional Playoffs, 3 Conference Championships, and Super Bowls LI and LV. Both of his Super Bowl assignments were as a referee." ------------------ Other WC games: Saturday: CLE-HOU - Clay Martin MIA-KC - Brad Rogers Sunday: GB-DAL - Ron Torbert LAR-DET - Craig Wrolstad Monday: PHL-TB - Adrian Hill Edited January 10 by chongli 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Other info on Carl Cheffers: https://www.sportscasting.com/super-bowl-referee-travis-kelce-said-carl-cheffers-shouldnt-work-foot-locker/ "Travis Kelce Once Said Super Bowl Referee Carl Cheffers ‘Shouldn’t Even Be Able to Work at F***ing Foot Locker’' "In 2016, the year before the team drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs finished 12-4 and made the playoffs with Alex Smith at quarterback. In the Wild Card Round that season, the Chiefs played the Steelers in a close, hotly-contested matchup. The Chiefs went down 18-10 with under 10 minutes to go in the game. Smith then led a seven-minute, 15-play touchdown drive to get KC within two points with 2:43 left on the clock. Smith and company just needed a two-point conversion to tie the game, and they got it when the Chiefs QB found Demetrius Harris in the end zone. However, NFL referee Carl Cheffers (No. 51) threw a flag and called a controversial holding call on Chiefs left tackle Eric Fisher. The next attempt failed. Ben Roethlisberger got the ball back, the Steelers got a 1st-down, and Big Ben took three knees to end the game. After the game, Travis Kelce didn’t hold back. The then-budding star said if NFL referees “want to take over the game and make it their own platform, there’s nothing you can do about it.” Kelce vehemently asserted it wasn’t a hold on Fisher and then went on to crush Cheffers in a classic rant that could only have come from the outspoke tight end. “[We] just got out jugulars ripped out because ref felt bad for James Harrison falling on the ground,” Kelce fumed. “It’s ignorance. The ref, No. 51, shouldn’t even be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again. He shouldn’t even be able to work at f***ing Foot Locker.”' https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/01/31/super-bowl-referee-carl-cheffers-stats [limited free views] "Based on Carl Cheffers Stats, Expect Lots of Flags and the Under in Super Bowl LVII" "According to BetArizona.com, which was kind enough to send me some stats, Cheffers ranked first in total penalties called per game this season at 12.59. Cheffers also led all NFL refs in penalties called last season. He also was first in total yards in penalties given per game at 109.94. Cheffers and his crew (which will be different for the Super Bowl) also called 21 pass interferences this season, which ranked second among NFL refs." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Doooooooom!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'm just shocked that Shawn Hochuli didn't get an assignment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I wish we were playing the Chiefs now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 6 hours ago, BRH said: I'm just shocked that Shawn Hochuli didn't get an assignment. I’m surprised they didn’t put Brad Allen on the DET game? 😂 Funny though, he effs up the DAL/DET game and is somehow back reffing in the playoffs. Edit: Misread, looks like it’s Brad Rogers, not Allen. Phew. Edited January 9 by strive_for_five_guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Cheffers, Blakeman, and Hussey. When you hear those one of those names you know its going to be an interesting day. Edited January 8 by thenorthremembers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) ChiefsPlanet probably already complaining that the fix is in because Cheffers cheated Tay Tay's boy toy out of a legendary moment and now he gets to "help" the Bills again. Edited January 8 by BRH 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Not Cheffers!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I’m surprised they didn’t put Brad Allen on the DET game? 😂 Funny though, he effs up the DAL/DET game and is somehow back reffing in the playoffs. That's Brad Rogers on the chart there. I'm pretty sure Allen was blacklisted from these playoffs, but could be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, Bferra13 said: That's Brad Rogers on the chart there. I'm pretty sure Allen was blacklisted from these playoffs, but could be wrong. Good call, I misread. And great, he should be blacklisted! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 (edited) UPDATE: The full officiating crew for PIT-BUF has been revealed. The crew is a mixed crew, consisting of five different crews. What's more, the controversial official Brad Allen, was named as the Referee alternate for our crew! He was expected to be downgraded by the NFL, according to Adam Schefter, after Week 17's DET-DAL game and become ineligible for the playoffs, but I guess this is not true. In addition, it has been revealed Side Judge Boris Cheek, who worked in Allen's crew this year, is also actively officiating out game. Here is the full crew for PIT-BUF: https://www.footballzebras.com/2024/01/nfl-assigns-officiating-crews-for-the-2023-24-wild-card-playoffs/ "Carl Cheffers is the referee, who is in his 24th season and 16th as referee. This is Cheffers’s 19th postseason assignment, including 6 Wild Card Playoffs, 7 Divisional Playoffs, 3 Conference Championships, and Super Bowls LI, LV, and LVII. All of his Super Bowl assignments were as a referee." Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 51 Carl Cheffers 24 n/a California-Irvine Sales Manager U 22 Brandon Cruse 2 Cheffers South Dakota School of Mines & Technology Management Consultant DJ 63 Mike Carr 7 Cheffers Wisconsin Athletic Director LJ 87 Tom Eaton 4 Cheffers Central Florida Fiscal Manager FJ 26 Jabir Walker 9 Clark Murray State Middle School Teacher SJ 41 Boris Cheek 28 Allen Morgan State retired Director of Operations and Management BJ 120 Jonah Monroe 9 Blakeman Arkansas Engineer RO n/a Kevin Brown 5 Cheffers Purdue retired Air Traffic Controller RA n/a Gerald Frye 4 Eck Gannon Veterinarian Alternate R Brad Allen 10 n/a Pembroke State Non-Profit CEO Alternate U Alex Moore 2 Vinovich St. Petersburg Compliance Manager Alternate DJ Tom Stephan 25 Clark Pittsburgh State retired Business Broker Alternate SJ Jim Quirk 13 Hill Middlebury Financial Advisor Alternate BJ Scott Helverson 21 Kemp Iowa Sales, Printing and Promotions Notes on alternates, from the article: "In 2020, the NFL moved to five alternates for the early postseason rounds, which will continue this season. The alternate officials are a referee, an umpire, a line of scrimmage official (down judge or line judge), a deep wing official (field judge or side judge), and a back judge. Officials who have alternate assignments are still eligible for an on-field assignment in the Divisional Playoffs or Conference Championships. Past practice is that Wild Card officials — on the field or alternates — are not in consideration for a Super Bowl assignment." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-expected-to-downgrade-brad-allen-ref-crew-for-playoffs-after-lions-cowboys-questionable-calls-per-report/ "NFL expected to downgrade Brad Allen ref crew for playoffs after Lions-Cowboys questionable calls, per report Allen's crew made several controversial calls, including on the deciding two-point conversion "Both the Dallas Cowboys and the Detroit Lions were on the receiving end of questionable calls by referee Brad Allen and his crew in Saturday's 20-19 Cowboys win, including one that effectively decided the game on a Lions two-point conversion attempt. As a result, Allen's crew is going to be downgraded, with some of the referees from the Week 17 game not participating in the postseason, according to an ESPN report. Late in the final quarter, the Cowboys saw tight end Peyton Hendershot get flagged for a tripping penalty on Lions defensive end Aidan Hutchinson. The infraction was huge because instead of the clock running with the Cowboys facing second-and-3 from the Lions' 22, Dallas had first-and-25 on the Lions' 44. In reality, Hutchinson stuck his leg out and should have been called for tripping. If called correctly, the Cowboys could have scored a game-sealing touchdown instead of giving Detroit the ball back, down seven. " "Then, madness ensued. Detroit went for two and the win, and they appeared to have it after Goff completed a pass to offensive tackle Taylor Decker, No. 68. However, Detroit reported tackle Dan Skipper, No. 70, as eligible prior to the play, according to referee Brad Allen. Therefore, the Lions were called for an illegal touching penalty. However, Skipper said postgame that he did not say a word to the official before the snap. Replay of Detroit coming on to the field before the first two-point conversion attempt shows Decker talking to Allen, appearing to report as eligible." Green Bay at Kansas City, Week 13 2023: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article282633813.html "Rules analyst says officials missed obvious calls in the Chiefs’ loss to Packers "The Chiefs lost 27-19 but they were hurt when a pass-interference call wasn’t made on Green Bay’s Carrington Valentine in the Chiefs’ final drive. Valentine climbed on Chiefs receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling near the goal line. “This is an obviously defensive pass interference,” NBC Sports rules analyst Terry McAulay said after the game. “You simply can’t play through the receiver’s back before the ball gets there. He does exactly that ... has to be a foul. Should have been called.” Referee Brad Allen told a pool reporter after the game: “(T)he covering officials were in good position and ruled that there was no material restriction that rose to the level of defensive pass interference.” "On the final play of the game, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes threw a Hail Mary pass, but Travis Kelce didn’t have a chance to make the catch. Here’s why:" Also, there are videos of more bad calls in the article cited above. Edited January 10 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 all those refs are terrible. I know Brad Allen got destroyed (and rightfully so) by screwing the lions, but he has been bills friendly. only other ref I like is clete Blakeman cause he made calls against the Brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Ryan Simpsons said: why is there an alternate referee? In case there is an injury or illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Why do we get this clown? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, chongli said: In case there is an injury or illness. Or shooting. * 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 For those who are interested, good write-up how mixed playoff crews are chosen and what tiers they have to reach to be chosen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 1/8/2024 at 3:46 PM, Prospector said: I wish we were playing the Chiefs now Curious to why? I don't, it'd be in a winter wonderland environment, in KC, where anything is possible. Imo they been mediocre all year, 1 week won't change that. If Mia wins, they have the best shot to knock off Bal then any other team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Curious to why? I don't, it'd be in a winter wonderland environment, in KC, where anything is possible. Imo they been mediocre all year, 1 week won't change that. If Mia wins, they have the best shot to knock off Bal then any other team You really that Miami has the best shot at taking out Baltimore? 🤣 oh man. that’s the only team that has zero shot imo. Jim Schwartz absolutely has a chance to take them down. Stroud is a stud and Demeco has the Texans rolling. Miami has collapsed again. Their 2 best pass rushers were on the couch a couple weeks ago. They lost their MLB again. That team is so screwed imo Edited January 11 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Curious to why? I don't, it'd be in a winter wonderland environment, in KC, where anything is possible. Imo they been mediocre all year, 1 week won't change that. If Mia wins, they have the best shot to knock off Bal then any other team Whaaaaaat!? The phins? I think Cleveland or Buffalo are only teams that can realistically take out Baltimore, and it would take a 0 int game from Josh most likely.cleveland though has the best shot. Div rivals, sick D, and Flacco playing with ice water in his veins. Lamar is still limited and relies on huge WR separation, but I don't see Miami finishing a game in Baltimore within 14 points of the Ravens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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