SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. 18 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. Man can you imagine that LB unit if Matt didn’t get hurt. Best in the NFL. 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. Fred Warner will rightly be the first team all pro at MLB. But TB43 should get votes and has a shot at 2nd team. He has been excellent and I was very very down on him. Ed Oliver should be this team's 1 first team all pro. Edited December 31, 2023 by GunnerBill 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Now imagine him and Milano next to each other playing in 2024 for defending SB champs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. Holy hell, great stat line. I knew he was playing well but to see if put together. WOW! Edmunds who!?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 My biggest miss of all time. Really thought Bernard was going to be a bust. Rare instincts and just enough natural talent to thrive. Still would prefer him to be bigger but he was played very well! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: My biggest miss of all time. Really thought Bernard was going to be a bust. Rare instincts and just enough natural talent to thrive. Still would prefer him to be bigger but he was played very well! I was against him because of his size. Which is still a thing. He still gets blocked out of plays at times. But his athleticism and smart play makes up for most of the loss because of size. He’s super quick and smart and it’s been huge. with all that said, I said for years that Edmunds is as trash. Glad I was right about that. We replaced him with an undersized 3rd rd guy that many thought would be a bust and he’s been outperforming him by miles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Holy hell, great stat line. I knew he was playing well but to see if put together. WOW! Edmunds who!?! And there’s not a single physical characteristic where Bernard has the edge. Size, height, strength, speed, wingspan, all Edmunds. But Bernard is a football player and Edmunds is an athlete on a football field and therein lies the rub. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, SageAgainstTheMachine said: And there’s not a single physical characteristic where Bernard has the edge. Size, height, strength, speed, wingspan, all Edmunds. But Bernard is a football player and Edmunds is an athlete on a football field and therein lies the rub. Oh I know, watching Bernard (or Cujo as I call him) in the preseason two years ago he was great at reading plays. My worry was he sometimes was a step behind. But he's played a lot quicker this season than his timed speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 He’s been awesome. Well done McBeane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I gave TB zero chance at being a good player. He has happily shut me up 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Now imagine him and Milano next to each other playing in 2024 for defending SB champs I have to stop imagining this within the next four hours or I’ll need to contact my doctor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. Yup, it shows that we fans talk a lot of trash about the nuances that we know little about, how happy are we that most of us were so wrong on this one, Beane and McDermott do know what they are up to the majority of the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: Now imagine him and Milano next to each other playing in 2024 for defending SB champs I like that but remember it will take Milano a good while to get back to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: And there’s not a single physical characteristic where Bernard has the edge. Size, height, strength, speed, wingspan, all Edmunds. But Bernard is a football player and Edmunds is an athlete on a football field and therein lies the rub. Bernard is the athlete of the two. Edmunds’s slow processing is his career killer. Nice paychecks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 My favorite comparison stat: Bernard has 6.5 sacks so far in his first season as a starter. Edmunds has 6.5 career sacks over 6 seasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Fred Warner will rightly be the first team all pro at MLB. But TB43 should get votes and has a shot at 2nd team. He has been excellent and I was very very down on him. Ed Oliver should be this team's 1 first team all pro. We were all really down on him because of his size he proved us all wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Needs to clean up the tackling, but man he’s way better than any of us expected, no real drop off from Edmunds, and really an upgrade in some ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I love him. Again, his Baylor reel is so worth watching. The pick was getting all sorts of criticism but you could see that he had superstar quality from his reel and it's really starting to show. The man is an athlete and a leader. And intelligent too. A different kind of LB. A truly brilliant pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: It probably won't happen for a couple seasons because he's a no name compared to Fred Warner and Roquan Smith but I think he's been the MVP of a defense that also has Ed Oliver on it playing like an all pro. 134 tackles, 82 solo, 6.5 sacks, 10 TFL, 3 INT, 3 Fumble recoveries Add in the fact that MLB was widely thought to be the team's biggest weakness heading into the season. Shows what we know. 6.5 sacks is crazy. Didn’t know he had that many. Definitely deserves All-Pro honors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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