strive_for_five_guy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: this definitely could NOT have gone into the latest Araiza thread. nope. just could not. Who says this was an Araiza thread?? 😂😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 It could be a very valuable tool in a stretch run. Especially when games tighten up. I’d absolutely be looking to add a punter here. If nothing else but to the PS for the time being. You can’t have a liability of field position. There must be a veteran or two out there looking to catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Let's do it like in madden. Go for every 4th down!!!! No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Per punt yes 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Who says this was an Araiza thread?? 😂😉 1. there was already a thread about martin 2. it appeared after the latest of an infinite number of Araiza threads appeared 3. come on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He had 2nd lowest number of punts after 13 games. Hes not at the bottom for the categories you listed. 31st in both net and gross yards per punt. I would call that bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, ngbills said: 31st in both net and gross yards per punt. I would call that bottom. net is a coverage issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: net is a coverage issue That is impacted by the low gross number, lack of hang time, and punting to the middle of the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Martin has not been good but I don't see this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 hours ago, ngbills said: Martin is awful. He is bottom of the pack in gross and net yards. He is in the bottom half in punts inside the 20. Bring in some competition. You likely don’t find a punter in December better than the guy you’ve rostered. I think there is a shot they bring Araiza back this summer to compete, but they likely don’t do it right now with the Von situation and McD article still in the news. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Are any teams working him out? If not, then that is telling imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I've been wondering if we couldn't sign Araiza back. I'm betting this has been discussed before but....I mean, he was innocent right? I may be off base I don't recall exactly how the drama ended. I know VD was involved but isn't it always? Predictable first post... As it should be! We have a really bad punter now (dead last in punting avg) Last year we cut a guy called "punt god" because of what turned out to be false accusations. Seems like a no-brainer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 The problem you run into is he holds for Bass and they have been working on it all year long. A change this late in the season messes up Bass more than it messes up Martin or the Punt Unit. Someone came up with signing a punter to the PS and I don't think thats a bad idea whether Araiza or someone else. Araiza at least has some short term knowledge of how Bass likes the ball placed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: net is a coverage issue Not when they are line drives straight up the middle. He's not allowing coverage to get there in time. Hang time. It's a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Ariza, IMO, is only coming back to a team who dumped him if they are the only ones calling for his services which I doubt. Guy might end up on roster fill next year or a PS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Araiza is the ONLY answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Breakout Squad said: Innocent 100% like nothing happened. He deserves another chance. I don’t think he would come back to the Bills after we released him tho. Bills really had no choice but to release him. The details were so grotesque initially it would’ve been a massive distraction. Even Cleveland would have released a punter with those allegations. He wouldn't go back to the team that went out of their way to draft him, and tried to hold off on releasing him to wait for details to come out? The team got dragged through the mud for not cutting him sooner, so I think he'd understand and appreciate that the team resisted letting him go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: You likely don’t find a punter in December better than the guy you’ve rostered. I think there is a shot they bring Araiza back this summer to compete, but they likely don’t do it right now with the Von situation and McD article still in the news. Michael Turk is worth a shot. Was a holder in college and as well. Corliss Waitman was released from NE practice squad. He beat out Martin for the job in DEN when the Bills signed Martin. Has also been a holder. Call Araiza and see if he is looking for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: net is a coverage issue It's more of a low hangtime issue with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 hours ago, bmur66 said: We know Araiza could kick a mile but could he actually do the things they want him to do? Must be better than Martin. He’s a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 This fanbase is so silly far too often. Martin has a 36.8% inside the 20 yard line this season against a career 36.6. That is incredible. It's better than Shane Lechler. He's all time elite at that skill and puts him up there with the all time greats at placement kicking. He's also top 17 all time in net average for punters with more than 500 punts and even higher when you consider most of the top guys were in the 50s and 60s. Stop acting like he's a bad punter. He's elite having a less than career year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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