sherpa Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That you thought the Iraq war was a good idea? You told me so. Show it. Another of the lies that exist in the slurry of falsehoods swimming around in your head. Let me save you some time, though few things site related make me happier than thinking you are going through the search function trying to find nonexistent data. Short answer. Didn't happen. You whiff again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 One side tries to censor dissent, locked down where they could - for as long as they could, tried to force an experimental vaccine on the public under false pretense, wants to destroy institutions like the Supreme Court and take control of children at the expense of their parents but I’m supposed to listen to a Cheney about threats to Democracy at the behest of the now illiberal Democrat Party. Nah. Kindly **** off 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Show it. Another of the lies that exist in the slurry of falsehoods swimming around in your head. Let me save you some time, though few things site related make me happier than thinking you are going through the search function trying to find nonexistent data. Short answer. Didn't happen. You whiff again. Wow, I’m thinking you are crazy. We argued over it. You defended the war. You are literally denying that? It’s not important enough to look up, but we both know you did 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Wow, I’m thinking you are crazy. We argued over it. You defended the war. You are literally denying that? It’s not important enough to look up, but we both know you did You can "think" whatever you want. I never advocated for that war. You and I have had discussions about the false claims you made about the Bush Admin in leading up to it, but I never, ever advocated for it. I had very good reasons for not thinking it was a good idea, and those reasons informed my view. You are wrong again, and you once again state some false claim about some poster on this board./ You have no shame and no integrity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Conservative?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, sherpa said: You can "think" whatever you want. I never advocated for that war. You and I have had discussions about the false claims you made about the Bush Admin in leading up to it, but I never, ever advocated for it. I had very good reasons for not thinking it was a good idea, and those reasons informed my view. You are wrong again, and you once again state some false claim about some poster on this board./ You have no shame and no integrity. Ok, you defended the invasion. That’s the point. I never said anything false about the Bush admin. You are right, I feel no shame. My integrity is intact. I did call you a bull sh itter, and this fits in with that category. I’m guessing you disagree with the arguments that Cheney belongs in Gitmo? 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Did RM get a chance to ask Liz about her father, the Iraq war and all the heartache and suffering Liz brought about before 1/6? That was a big deal. What about the Iraq War? 3 minutes ago, Westside said: Conservative?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yes, the conservative voters who put her in office thought so, until she crossed their cult leader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, you defended the invasion. That’s the point. I never said anything false about the Bush admin. No. Wrong again. What you claimed was that I thought it was "a good idea." Your words. That is completely false, and never happened. Get that? Your claim is a lie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, BillStime said: She voted with Trump 93% of the time. Of course most Democrats wouldn’t like her politics… But where we agree - we agree bigly. Our republic is more important than Conald Trump - and that’s why you freaks censured and primaried her. You hate America. HOAX. The radical extreme left hates America. They hate patriotism and the sight of the flag like Dracula hates sunlight. Edited December 6, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: HOAX. The radical extreme left hates America. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: the only folks calling her a conservative. are Liberals and MSNBC talking heads. Lol…yup…she is the dream “conservative” of every Leftist- which tells you all you need to know about her…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, BillStime said: Nope One single guy. Whoop-di-do. Try doing better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: One single guy. Whoop-di-do. Try doing better. How many people connected to Trump and January 6 have been arrested and convicted? ETTD Keep whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 56 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What about the Iraq War? Well, RM is interviewing Liz and her thoughts on 1/6, but not all that long ago RM was pitching Liz as someone who was dangerous, cannot be trusted, who supported the Iraq war, and who's father allegedly fabricated evidence that lead to the invasion and millions of people impacted. Back then, Daddy Cheney and Liz were the threat. Now, as she preps to run for president, why wouldn't RM want to discuss her past? Wouldn't she want to say, at least, "Listen Liz, thanks for the book on 1/6, but you're dangerous af, too!"? Maybe it happened during the commercials. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2007/01/23/retreat-isnt-an-option/b2f660a3-f908-4362-88fc-fac8b6843fda/ Liz Cheney, before you loved her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Why would former Rep. Liz Cheney run for president? Is she nuts? Is she trying to sell a book? Why would a Republican whose last election was losing a state primary by 37 points think she should now seek the highest office in the land? Why would a politician hated by most of her own party and used by the other party simply to attack her colleagues think she could bring 80 million people together behind a Cheney candidacy? Who knows? Nevertheless, Cheney, in the preferred political style, is not "ruling out" a run in 2024. It would be a third-party effort, of course, because neither Republicans nor Democrats would have her as a candidate. And it would be focused entirely, 100%, on stopping former President Donald Trump. "Several years ago, I would not have contemplated a third-party run," Cheney told the Washington Post. But now, she continued, "I happen to think democracy is at risk at home, obviously, as a result of Donald Trump's continued grip on the Republican Party, and I think democracy is at risk internationally as well." Cheney told the Washington Post that she will decide whether or not to run "in the next few months." Whatever her answer, it will be all about Trump. https://jewishworldreview.com/1223/york120623.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 hours ago, LeviF said: "Conservative" Liz Cheney: voted for gay "marriage" voted for Ukraine $$$ voted for gun control But she's "conservative" to the loons here. Lol, lmao Trans-conservative... And sure Dick Jr., run for President. Waste the money of whoever is stupid enough to contribute to you for maybe a couple thousand votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 hours ago, sherpa said: No. Wrong again. What you claimed was that I thought it was "a good idea." Your words. That is completely false, and never happened. Get that? Your claim is a lie. Lol, ya sure buddy. You defended the action, passionately What "lies" did I tell about Bush? You said I lied, now, what did I lie about? False claims about Bush admin, what was that, or did you just make that up? 14 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Well, RM is interviewing Liz and her thoughts on 1/6, but not all that long ago RM was pitching Liz as someone who was dangerous, cannot be trusted, who supported the Iraq war, and who's father allegedly fabricated evidence that lead to the invasion and millions of people impacted. Back then, Daddy Cheney and Liz were the threat. Now, as she preps to run for president, why wouldn't RM want to discuss her past? Wouldn't she want to say, at least, "Listen Liz, thanks for the book on 1/6, but you're dangerous af, too!"? Maybe it happened during the commercials. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2007/01/23/retreat-isnt-an-option/b2f660a3-f908-4362-88fc-fac8b6843fda/ Liz Cheney, before you loved her. You think Dick Cheney fabricated evidence leading to the war? @sherpa Do tell us Then you use a 2007 interview over debate on Iraq policy to prove what exactly? Not following your "logic" there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Its hard to wrap your mind around the left supporting the war hawking McCain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Its hard to wrap your mind around the left supporting the war hawking McCain. The guy who saved Obamacare! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The guy who saved Obamacare! The industry thanks him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: The industry thanks him. So do all those Americans that can still see a doctor! I know, you don't care. You just want to hurt people and institutions that help people. Fascism sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So do all those Americans that can still see a doctor! I know, you don't care. You just want to hurt people and institutions that help people. Fascism sucks The industry loves the blank checks to them from the state. thats fascism? Seems more like corporatism, but then again Mussolini called fascism, corporatism. full circle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 Don't forget how he tried to screw up the US Mail to interfere with mail in ballots! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Sorry. No one but lefties care what McCain or George Conway thinks or says. Edited December 7, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: You think Dick Cheney fabricated evidence leading to the war? Then you use a 2007 interview over debate on Iraq policy to prove what exactly? Not following your "logic" there. Jeesh, how would I know? That was a liberal talking point on the run up to the Obama election. It pretty much dropped off the map when Obama won, which seemed very odd to me. That's the reason I asked about Maddow and her interview--perfect time to ask Liz what she knew, and when she knew it. That it dates to 2007 is irrelevant imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Lol, ya sure buddy. You defended the action, passionately What "lies" did I tell about Bush? You said I lied, now, what did I lie about? False claims about Bush admin, what was that, or did you just make that up? You think Dick Cheney fabricated evidence leading to the war? @sherpa Do tell us You really are a tough individual to respond to. Not because your points are valid or true, but because it takes time to sort out your misstatements; your scrambled, nonsense claims. The "lie" I am accusing you of is your statement that I ever thought the invasion was a "good idea." That never happened. I had well thought out reasons why I didn't think it was a "good idea," as executed. I didn't post those, as nobody asked. What I did post is a rebuttal to your claims about Bush rushing into war. I posted the actual facts about going through Congress and the UN. Both authorized force. In the case of the US Congress, who approved it overwhelmingly, they were presented the exact same intel that the President was, came to the same conclusion, and voted accordingly, Biden and Clinton being major supporters. The Dems, running away from that matter of Congressional record action, is the same as the claimed ignorance of Nancy Pelosi not knowing of "enhanced interrogation techniques." Both situations are after the fact denials of factual data. I also posted an assertion that something was going to happen because the existing situation was not sustainable. The US was enforcing no fly zones. That situation had become a massive burden and could not continue, especially since Iraq had started firing SAMS against them. Whatever your imagination conjures up is not my concern. It would simply help if you didn't post those imaginary claims here, as they are untrue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Jeesh, how would I know? That was a liberal talking point on the run up to the Obama election. It pretty much dropped off the map when Obama won, which seemed very odd to me. That's the reason I asked about Maddow and her interview--perfect time to ask Liz what she knew, and when she knew it. That it dates to 2007 is irrelevant imo. So you wish the interview was about something else, along with the whole conversation. You were just pulling a "whataboutism" Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Failure Liz Cheney will say anything trying to sell her ***** book. Still bellyaching about Trump running her out of office. Who cares what that loser says. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, sherpa said: You really are a tough individual to respond to. Not because your points are valid or true, but because it takes time to sort out your misstatements; your scrambled, nonsense claims. The "lie" I am accusing you of is your statement that I ever thought the invasion was a "good idea." That never happened. I had well thought out reasons why I didn't think it was a "good idea," as executed. I didn't post those, as nobody asked. What I did post is a rebuttal to your claims about Bush rushing into war. I posted the actual facts about going through Congress and the UN. Both authorized force. In the case of the US Congress, who approved it overwhelmingly, they were presented the exact same intel that the President was, came to the same conclusion, and voted accordingly, Biden and Clinton being major supporters. The Dems, running away from that matter of Congressional record action, is the same as the claimed ignorance of Nancy Pelosi not knowing of "enhanced interrogation techniques." Both situations are after the fact denials of factual data. I also posted an assertion that something was going to happen because the existing situation was not sustainable. The US was enforcing no fly zones. That situation had become a massive burden and could not continue, especially since Iraq had started firing SAMS against them. Whatever your imagination conjures up is not my concern. It would simply help if you didn't post those imaginary claims here, as they are untrue. What did I "lie" about the Bush administration, as you claim? You are playing switch-a-roo now Kind of dishonest Just now, Irv said: Failure Liz Cheney will say anything trying to sell her ***** book. Still bellyaching about Trump running her out of office. Who cares what that loser says. What a mess. Best seller! Yes, she and Trump both lost, she just admitted it, though. Trump, not so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What did I "lie" about the Bush administration, as you claim? You are playing switch-a-roo now Kind of dishonest For the third time, this is the lie you have posted, readily accessible in this thread: "You told me so. That you thought the Iraq war was a good idea?" That never happened. That is your screwed up, nonsense, imaginary claim. You get on here, and you make judgements about people's patriotism, honesty, ethical values. cowardice and a host of other horsecrap, and you you can't even accurately remember what was said. You burden people with correcting your nonsense. Why don't you just shut up and process what people actually say? " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you wish the interview was about something else, along with the whole conversation. You were just pulling a "whataboutism" Ok No, not something else, in addition too. Maddow would obv ask about 1/6, but she had been quite vocal about the Cheney involvement in the Iraq war. I don't understand why she would pass up the opportunity that she was waiting for. I guess Maddow is like a lot of folks, you maybe, where the outrage machine points you in a given direction until something new comes along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole. The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole. The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country. “Completely ruined our country”? LOL. The drama. I love how people try to rewrite history. I’m sure the last trump ***** store has nothing to do with what Biden inherited. I’m sure I it’s a conversation that is way above peoples heads. But there is a thing called supply and demand not to mention how the supply chain was thrown out of wack when the pandemic started. That was all started when trump was president. Try to deny it. ” but gas was cheap under trump “ I hear a lot. That’s because no one was driving anywhere. But that is above peoples heads. “The country is completely ruined” as he eats his 5 th meal of the day and is 40 I’ve overweight, after he drives him to his $500,000 house in a BMW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole. The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country. LOL!! Good one! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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