Cheektavegas Charlie Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Back in 2017, in McDermott’s first year, we played the colts very late in the season in a game we basically needed to win to have any chance at making the playoffs. This was the memorable snow bowl game. Well during this game, with 4:13 seconds left in overtime, McDermott punted on 4th and 1 on the Colts 41 yard line. This game ending in a tie would have all but sunk our chances of ending the drought. Of course we got the ball back on our own 30 with about 2 minutes left, Joe Webb threw the long pass to Deonte Thompson, and then McCoy broke the long Td run, but regardless of that miraculous outcome, the decision to punt there was TERRIBLE. His bad decisions get magnified in big games when we lose, but people easily forget all the other really bad ones when we win. I don’t want a coach who punts 3 times on 4th and short on the opponents side of the field like McDermott did against the Bucs. If Mike Evans turns around we lose that game, and if Joe Webb, Deonte Thompson, and Shady McCoy didn’t pull out an incredibly unlikely win against the Colts in 2017, the drought would have gone on even longer. 9 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 This needed to be shared. Now. Tonight 11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 McSofty was a wimp then and a wimp now. He will never change. 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 He is what he is-a good culture builder, a solid defensive coordinator and a bad gameday coach especially in tight games. 2 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson said: McSofty was a wimp then and a wimp now. He will never change. I thought McCoy ran damn hard when he was here... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Yeah … that was a bad call… perhaps we can cut him the slightest of slack on that one given his inexperience at the time… No such leeway now however…not in Josh Allen prime years.,. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Cheektavegas Charlie said: Back in 2017, in McDermott’s first year, we played the colts very late in the season in a game we basically needed to win to have any chance at making the playoffs. This was the memorable snow bowl game. Well during this game, with 4:13 seconds left in overtime, McDermott punted on 4th and 1 on the Colts 41 yard line. This game ending in a tie would have all but sunk our chances of ending the drought. Of course we got the ball back on our own 30 with about 2 minutes left, Joe Webb threw the long pass to Deonte Thompson, and then McCoy broke the long Td run, but regardless of that miraculous outcome, the decision to punt there was TERRIBLE. His bad decisions get magnified in big games when we lose, but people easily forget all the other really bad ones when we win. I don’t want a coach who punts 3 times on 4th and short on the opponents side of the field like McDermott did against the Bucs. If Mike Evans turns around we lose that game, and if Joe Webb, Deonte Thompson, and Shady McCoy didn’t pull out an incredibly unlikely win against the Colts in 2017, the drought would have gone on even longer. Just a quick thought on this one - Shady was on about 30 carries at that point, and the previous play was a run by Cadet. So my assumption was shady's gassed (running in snow is exhasuting as we all know). Not sure how i feel about a 4th and 1 carry to a running back who averaged .5 yards per carry in the game, and passing with a 3rd string QB/WR/STer. I'd go for it - at the time i was outraged too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Yeah … that was a bad call… perhaps we can cut him the slightest of slack on that one given his inexperience at the time… No such leeway now however…not in Josh Allen prime years.,. It's "Josh Allen prime years" that saved his a$$ here. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: It's "Josh Allen prime years" that saved his a$$ here. We’re probably lucky that Peterman wasn’t half decent. Josh probably would still be riding the pine, Kaiir Elam style. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I saw McDermott out Christmas shopping this weekend. He was wearing a plaid sweater with pin striped pants. What a tool. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Whatever McDermott tries is wrong. He is normally too lax in crunch time and it blows up in his face. When he tries to be aggressive it also blows up in his face. Vikings in ‘22 going for 7 when up by 10. Deep shots v the Jets week 1 with the lead, all out blitz to try to close out the broncos results in game-losing PI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerstAusGosheim Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 12 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: He is what he is-a good culture builder, a solid defensive coordinator and a bad gameday coach especially in tight games. It's looking like our winning culture walked out the door with Daboll and Leslie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The problem is that McD probably didnt even realize a tie was bad. Or worse yet he may have been trying to lose to get a better draft pick the following year to draft a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: We’re probably lucky that Peterman wasn’t half decent. Josh probably would still be riding the pine, Kaiir Elam style. I'm tellin' ya. Just like Brady would have been had Mo Lewis not done Belichick the biggest favor of his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Can someone pass the cheese? Goes good with all this whine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: I saw McDermott out Christmas shopping this weekend. He was wearing a plaid sweater with pin striped pants. What a tool. cant even dress himself how is he supposed to make critical decisions in the 4th quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: cant even dress himself how is he supposed to make critical decisions in the 4th quarter I didn’t even mention the crocs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: I didn’t even mention the crocs. crocs are the footwear version of THE PROCESS, i assumed that if he had anything on his feet at all that it would be crocs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Maybe the drought should have gone longer. You all would be happier discussing the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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