Warriorspikes51 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 This nonsense needs to stop. Splash plays happen every week in the league that are RUINED by refs blowing their whistle in the middle of play every turnover is automatically reviewed. There is ZERO need for a whistle to be blown when a play like the Douglas Fumble Recovery and lateral to Hyde happens 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This nonsense needs to stop. Splash plays happen every week in the league that are RUINED by refs blowing their whistle in the middle of play every turnover is automatically reviewed. There is ZERO need for a whistle to be blown when a play like the Douglas Fumble Recovery and lateral to Hyde happens The play wasn't stopped for forward progress. It was stopped because he was down the second he made the recovery due to being touched by a Jet player while being down. Play was over before Douglas even got up. 7 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 11/16/2023 at 9:45 AM, Bray Wyatt said: I dont think it would have been a TD but feel like if he just kept running toward the sideline he would have had a lot more yards 5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The play wasn't stopped for forward progress. It was stopped because he was down the second he made the recovery due to being touched by a Jet player while being down. Play was over before Douglas even got up. That’s not true, show the replay. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This nonsense needs to stop. Splash plays happen every week in the league that are RUINED by refs blowing their whistle in the middle of play every turnover is automatically reviewed. There is ZERO need for a whistle to be blown when a play like the Douglas Fumble Recovery and lateral to Hyde happens I do agree that whenever possible or if it's that close they need to let the play play out. However in the case tonight, if an official saw (or believes he saw) a down by contact, then you blow the whistle and end the play. It's a great theory to let the play go no matter what, but what happens if in the scrum and return a player is seriously injured? You and others would be LIVID they let the play continue after seeing a guy down by contact. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This nonsense needs to stop. Splash plays happen every week in the league that are RUINED by refs blowing their whistle in the middle of play every turnover is automatically reviewed. There is ZERO need for a whistle to be blown when a play like the Douglas Fumble Recovery and lateral to Hyde happens these refs were overall just terrible. I had never seen this crew before, and so I suspect they are like a newer or novice crew. they couldn’t even get the down and distance and clock right. They ran a full play before realizing that they never spotted the ball right after a prior penalty. So, the blowing a quick whistle on that fumble was par for the course. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The play wasn't stopped for forward progress. It was stopped because he was down the second he made the recovery due to being touched by a Jet player while being down. Play was over before Douglas even got up. wrong. Whistle wasn’t blown until the lateral happened 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessImproverMan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 One issue is a team can score on a play where there isn't clear evidence he cleanly and legally scored but because original call was a score, and there is no clear evidence to say he didn't cleanly and legally scored, play stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The play wasn't stopped for forward progress. It was stopped because he was down the second he made the recovery due to being touched by a Jet player while being down. Play was over before Douglas even got up. It’s technically true the play was over due to being touched, but there’s no way the ref saw that in real time. Even on replay the jets player barely grazed his foot while down. They should have let it play out. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Every time they don't blow the whistle David Nelson comes to mind in that ravens game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: these refs were overall just terrible. I had never seen this crew before, and so I suspect they are like a newer or novice crew. they couldn’t even get the down and distance and clock right. They ran a full play before realizing that they never spotted the ball right after a prior penalty. So, the blowing a quick whistle on that fumble was par for the course. The refs and crew were definitely struggling tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Lol all this arguing about a close play and no one has the sack to actually post a clip of it. Never change TBD 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This nonsense needs to stop. Splash plays happen every week in the league that are RUINED by refs blowing their whistle in the middle of play every turnover is automatically reviewed. There is ZERO need for a whistle to be blown when a play like the Douglas Fumble Recovery and lateral to Hyde happens post the clip then chief. Let’s see how obvious it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The replay shows that Douglas was down by contact .. not forward progress. It was the correct call. Last week Cook on the fumble had stopped his forward progress. Now that was a bad call! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Seeing the replay I do wonder if the official actually saw the down by contact portion. It was so minute that it would have been very Tough to see in real time IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Lol all this arguing about a close play and no one has the sack to actually post a clip of it. Never change TBD post the clip then chief. Let’s see how obvious it was. Didn't you see it on the broadcast? They showed it pretty clearly. 38 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Seeing the replay I do wonder if the official actually saw the down by contact portion. It was so minute that it would have been very Tough to see in real time IMO. He definitely did not see it. It was just a happy accident for them that there actually was miniscule contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesus Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: Every time they don't blow the whistle David Nelson comes to mind in that ravens game. It wasn't David Nelson, it was our tight end, Shawn Nelson. Brutal play.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The Bills won by A LOT yesterday. That was one of the poorest officiated games that I’ve ever seen!!! My favorite was when it was 1st and 5 and the Bills lost 2 yards. AFTER the play, the officials got together and said that they forgot to move the chains on the prior play. It became 2nd and 12!! You either have to move the chains AND the football OR leave it alone. The truth is, you should do it right to begin with. The Bills didn’t end up converting a 1st down. That was WILD. You can add a handful of other brutal mistakes to the list. Just a horrendous game for the officials!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The play wasn't stopped for forward progress. It was stopped because he was down the second he made the recovery due to being touched by a Jet player while being down. Play was over before Douglas even got up. There's absolutely NO WAY any official saw that in real time. They regularly miss blatant fouls that happen in the open field, right in front of them. Plus, after I DVRd it last night, the whistle was NOT blown until after the pitch was made, so no, they didn’t whistle it dead when our guy was still on the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I’m naming that call the whisper in the wind as there is no chance they were able to see that in real time. It actually ended up being the right call just in an insane fashion, so props goes to that LJ. The only call that puzzled me was they unnecessary roughness on Dawkins… I mean it was slightly late but it wasn’t blown dead when he was jumping all on dude. Crazy that the allow Clemons to make a retaliation for it when 4 guys were all doing the same earlier on in the game where Diggs was involved. Someone said in the GDT about officials being more visible than ever, ain’t kidding. Got to feel it has something to do with the absolute commercialization for advertisements and endorsements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Only thing worse than whining about officiating after a loss… whining about officiating after a WIN! 😂 Edited November 20, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: Every time they don't blow the whistle Shawn Nelson comes to mind in that ravens game. Ftfy 1 hour ago, Bob Jones said: There's absolutely NO WAY any official saw that in real time. They regularly miss blatant fouls that happen in the open field, right in front of them. Plus, after I DVRd it last night, the whistle was NOT blown until after the pitch was made, so no, they didn’t whistle it dead when our guy was still on the ground. It sometimes takes time to blow the whistle. Even if you think they couldn't see it they actually got it right for once* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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