boyst Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 What about just moving the Lions to the UP and the Wolverines to lake Michigan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Just Jack said: Scenario: The NFL has decided they want one team in every state, and for some odd reason, decided you're the one to decide where they go. Here's the criteria... 1) States that already have one team, will stay where they are. Names could change to better reflect the state/city that they play in, example, New England Patriots could go back to using Boston Patriots. Carolina Panthers will become North Carolina Panthers or Charlotte Panthers. 2) States with multiple teams, will need to relocate teams to a state with no team, to get them down to one team remaining. So, Florida with the Bucs, Jags, and Dolphins, two of those three teams will need to move. Teams that are moved, can keep their identity, like if you moved the Dolphins to Hawaii, they could stay as the Hawaiin Dolphins, or you could change their identity if you want. 3) New teams will be named after the city/location they will play in or state name. So, a team in Idaho could be named either the Idaho Spuds or Boise Spuds. 4) No need to worry about divisions/conferences, that will all be figured out later. Here are your lists. Teams that are staying put Arizona - Arizona Cardinals Colorado - Denver Broncos Georgia - Atlanta Falcons Illinois - Chicago Bears Indiana - Indianapolis Colts Louisiana - New Orleans Saints Massachusetts - New England Patriots (need to be renamed) Michigan - Detroit Lions Minnesota - Minnesota Vikings Missouri - Kansas City Chiefs Nevada - Las Vegas Raiders New York - Buffalo Bills North Carolina - Caroliina Panthers (need to be renamed) Tennessee - Tennessee Titans Washington - Seattle Seahawks Wisconsin - Green Bay Packers States with teams that must relocate one or more teams. California - Los Angelese Chargers, Los Angelese Rams, San Fransico 49ers Florida - Jacksonville Jaguars, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins Maryland - Baltimore Ravens, Washington Commanders New Jersey - Giants, Jets (remaining team location must be renamed to reflect state or city) Ohio - Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns Pennsylvania - Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburg Steelers Texas - Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans States with no teams currently Alabama Alaska Arkansas Connecticut Delaware Hawaii Idaho Iowa Kansas Kentucky Maine Mississippi Montana Nebraska New Hampshire New Mexico North Dakota Oklahoma Oregon Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Utah Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wyoming So how would you do it? What teams would you relocate? What new teams would you come up with? Oklahoma Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Rhode Island Coffee Milks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Arkansas Chiggers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 Here's my list Teams that are staying put Arizona - Arizona Cardinals California - San Fransico 49ers Colorado - Denver Broncos Florida - Jacksonville Jaguars Georgia - Atlanta Falcons Illinois - Chicago Bears Indiana - Indianapolis Colts Louisiana - New Orleans Saints Maryland - Baltimore Ravens Massachusetts - Boston Patriots (renamed) Michigan - Detroit Lions Minnesota - Minnesota Vikings Missouri - Kansas City Chiefs Nevada - Las Vegas Raiders New Jersey - New Jersey Giants (renamed) New York - Buffalo Bills North Carolina - North Caroliina Panthers (renamed) Ohio - Cleveland Browns Pennsylvania - Pittsburg Steelers Tennessee - Tennessee Titans Texas - Dallas Cowboys Washington - Seattle Seahawks Wisconsin - Green Bay Packers States with a relocated/new team Alabama - Birmingham Commanders (relocated from Maryland) Alaska - Alaskan Bald Eagles (relocated from Philadelphia) Arkansas - Little Rock Duck Callers Connecticut - Bridgeport Chargers (relocated from LA) Delaware - Delaware Chemists Hawaii - Honolulu Dolphins (relocated from Miami) Idaho - Idaho Spuds Iowa - Des Moines Pig Farmers Kansas - Kansas Plain Indians Kentucky - Kentucky Distillers (relocated from Cincinnati) Maine - Maine Lobstermen Mississippi - Mississippi Blues Men Montana - Billings Rams (relocated from LA) Nebraska - Omaha Jets (relocated from New Jersey) New Hampshire - New Hampshire Miners New Mexico - Los Alamos Atoms North Dakota - Fargo Oilers (relocated from Houston) Oklahoma - Oklahoma City Tornadoes Oregon - Portland Shoplifters Rhode Island - Rhode Island Clammers South Carolina - Charleston Buccaneers (relocated from Tampa Bay) South Dakota - Mount Rushmore Presidents Utah - Salt Lake City Mormons Vermont - Vermont Skiers Virginia - Richmond Dogwood West Virginia - West Virginia Coal Miners Wyoming - Yellowstone Geyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Except the criteria was states with single teams stay The bills are the only team in New York New Jersey has two Hence Bill stay and New Jersey gets split Yeah. Except they are both called NY teams not NJ teams. And there isn’t a single chance that there wouldn’t be a team in NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah. Except they are both called NY teams not NJ teams. And there isn’t a single chance that there wouldn’t be a team in NYC So you would kick the Bills out of state to move one of the NJ teams into NYC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Just Jack said: So you would kick the Bills out of state to move one of the NJ teams into NYC? I would not. And I understand that’s the point of the thread. It’s in my hands and what would I DO. Of course I would keep the Bills here. I’m just playing devils advocate here. Stating what I thought would be the pretty obvious answer that there’s no chance in hell that the nfl would allow there to not be a team in the NYC area. Calling them a NY team. In that case, I’d imagine the Jets get NJ. The Giants get NY. And Buffalo ends up in like Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, or Delaware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, boyst said: What about just moving the Lions to the UP and the Wolverines to lake Michigan? Lions would stay in Detroit. Wolverines are a college team. 7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Idaho or Wyoming that has 500,000 people, or maybe London, Berlin, Bonn, and Madrid who so far in Germany there were 3,000,000 tickets requested within 24 hrs. They arent placing teams in Midwest states over bajillions of dollars in europe. Not happening. New CBA, means new International division, and my guess is it’s already in the works. Hawaii sounds interesting, but it’s as far from the east coast to europe. Alabama is a college state. I was with my rep a few years ago and he must’ve said Roll Tide 33 times in one day. They don’t care about the NFL. This is for fun, not to be taken seriously. Did you read the thread title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, mrags said: I would not. And I understand that’s the point of the thread. It’s in my hands and what would I DO. Of course I would keep the Bills here. I’m just playing devils advocate here. Stating what I thought would be the pretty obvious answer that there’s no chance in hell that the nfl would allow there to not be a team in the NYC area. Calling them a NY team. In that case, I’d imagine the Jets get NJ. The Giants get NY. And Buffalo ends up in like Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, or Delaware. Buffalo gets NY. NY Giants becomes Connecticut Giants still in NYC area and NY Jets move to either to Delaware or Rhode Island. No sense moving teams across country assuming US passes law preventing NFL League exception if there is more than one team per state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, mrags said: I would not. And I understand that’s the point of the thread. It’s in my hands and what would I DO. Of course I would keep the Bills here. I’m just playing devils advocate here. Stating what I thought would be the pretty obvious answer that there’s no chance in hell that the nfl would allow there to not be a team in the NYC area. Calling them a NY team. In that case, I’d imagine the Jets get NJ. The Giants get NY. And Buffalo ends up in like Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, or Delaware. First criteria was states with just one team, retain that one team. So Buffalo stays where they are. NYC will still get their NJ team, plus one in CT and RI. PA too if you keep the Eagles where they are. 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Buffalo gets NY. NY Giants becomes Connecticut Giants still in NYC area and NY Jets move to either to Delaware or Rhode Island. NJ would keep one of their two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Assuming Eagles would move to NJ since Eagles or Steelers need to move. Least impact. Nope, states with multiple teams will retain one of those teams, and the other(s) would move. Criteria #2. States with multiple teams, will need to relocate teams to a state with no team, to get them down to one team remaining. So in PA either the Steelers or Eagles will stay. Edited October 29, 2023 by Just Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I like a different approach. When I was a kid, the International League had baseball teams in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Montreal and Toronto. I think that's the way the NFL should go. Throw in Ottawa and Albany for good measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Wacka said: Wyoming Sheep. I believe thee are more sheep than humans ion Wyoming. Wyoming Buffalo. They would make a good rival for Buffalo and in expansion draft Josh would go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Just Jack said: Lions would stay in Detroit. Wolverines are a college team. This is for fun, not to be taken seriously. Did you read the thread title? Wolverines need to be converted to ladies softball. Michigan deserves nothing. Move Detroit to the UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 18 hours ago, WhoTom said: Not the Anchorage Anchors? Fairbanks Tellers? There aren’t 32 guys that can play QB in the NFL now. Expansion would result in some really bad teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Toronto Snowmen ⛄️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 The Idaho "Go home, Californians" is an appropriate name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) There would be no way to make football economically sustainable in some of these states. For example in Wyoming, you have a state with less people that Erie, or Monroe county spread out over an area nearly twice the size of the state of New York, there is no way that they fill a stadium of 60,000-80,000 every week. Expansion to 50 teams would water down the competition level to a point where there would be a level if difference between the top and bottom tier of QB, Oline, and defense where any given sunday is no longer possible. The only way that this is feasible is having 32 NFL teams with one Farm team in an NFL Europe type spring league. 64 Teams could cover the 50 states, DC, Puerto Rico, A few cities in Mexico and the Canadian Provinces. With one farm team for each NFL team Example Seahawks-Washington Seahawks Farm Team Idaho Saints Louisiana Saints farm team- MIssissippi Edit from later in the day-Look at how Devito played on the Giants today and imagine that on a few teams each weeks. That is what you would get with 50 teams. Edited October 29, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Also, team names don't have to be themed after the state. I'm willing to bet you don't see many Lions in Detroit, Bengals in Cincinnati, Rams in LA (or St Louis), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 20 hours ago, mrags said: Do I have to be the terrible person here in thinking that the Bills would not be the team to stay in NY? I firmly believe the Jets would end up being New Jersey and the Giants would end up being NY. They’d probably ship the Bills off to Alaska or something You're a realist. They only signed a 10-year lease. And T-Pegs is 72 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Just Jack said: Scenario: The NFL has decided they want one team in every state, and for some odd reason, decided you're the one to decide where they go. Here's the criteria... 1) States that already have one team, will stay where they are. Names could change to better reflect the state/city that they play in, example, New England Patriots could go back to using Boston Patriots. Carolina Panthers will become North Carolina Panthers or Charlotte Panthers. 2) States with multiple teams, will need to relocate teams to a state with no team, to get them down to one team remaining. So, Florida with the Bucs, Jags, and Dolphins, two of those three teams will need to move. Teams that are moved, can keep their identity, like if you moved the Dolphins to Hawaii, they could stay as the Hawaiin Dolphins, or you could change their identity if you want. 3) New teams will be named after the city/location they will play in or state name. So, a team in Idaho could be named either the Idaho Spuds or Boise Spuds. 4) No need to worry about divisions/conferences, that will all be figured out later. Here are your lists. Teams that are staying put Arizona - Arizona Cardinals Colorado - Denver Broncos Georgia - Atlanta Falcons Illinois - Chicago Bears Indiana - Indianapolis Colts Louisiana - New Orleans Saints Massachusetts - New England Patriots (need to be renamed) Michigan - Detroit Lions Minnesota - Minnesota Vikings Missouri - Kansas City Chiefs Nevada - Las Vegas Raiders New York - Buffalo Bills North Carolina - Caroliina Panthers (need to be renamed) Tennessee - Tennessee Titans Washington - Seattle Seahawks Wisconsin - Green Bay Packers States with teams that must relocate one or more teams. California - Los Angelese Chargers, Los Angelese Rams, San Fransico 49ers Florida - Jacksonville Jaguars, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins Maryland - Baltimore Ravens, Washington Commanders New Jersey - Giants, Jets (remaining team location must be renamed to reflect state or city) Ohio - Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns Pennsylvania - Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburg Steelers Texas - Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans States with no teams currently Alabama Alaska Arkansas Connecticut Delaware Hawaii Idaho Iowa Kansas Kentucky Maine Mississippi Montana Nebraska New Hampshire New Mexico North Dakota Oklahoma Oregon Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Utah Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wyoming So how would you do it? What teams would you relocate? What new teams would you come up with? I think all of the states that have multiple teams should only have 1 per state, and seeing that the Bills are the only team actually located in NY they should be the team to stay & the G men & Jets be relocated one could stay in Jersey & be called the New Jersey Giants or Jets but the other would have to leave . That would give 32 states teams & that would only leave 20 states to fill but there would be so many teams they would have to play games constantly to get them all in so i'm not at all interested in this scenario . But thanks any way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I like turtles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Put the Dolphins in Alaska (it's not too cold for them) and call them the Salmon. Edited October 29, 2023 by gregmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 21 hours ago, mrags said: Do I have to be the terrible person here in thinking that the Bills would not be the team to stay in NY? I firmly believe the Jets would end up being New Jersey and the Giants would end up being NY. They’d probably ship the Bills off to Alaska or something Jets stay in Jersey and the Giants go to Connecticut where they have lots of fans and are still close to NY. They could build a stadium in Stamford- it is right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Just Jack said: Lions would stay in Detroit. Wolverines are a college team. This is for fun, not to be taken seriously. Did you read the thread title? Jack I’m just kidding with you as well. I don’t see us having the Jackson Hole Jaguars anytime soon. 🤣👌👍🏈🦬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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