Mass Shooting in Lewiston Maine

[John from Riverside]

11 hours ago, B-Man said:

No truths about your post

 

 

but like the child you are you hold your breath and whine at being called out. 
 

John’s from Riversides are being exposed all across the country this week. 
 

Your lies aren’t being supported anymore and you just can’t take it. 
 

 

.live link for the adults here

 

 

Amazing

19 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

It's your policies/masters that creat it.  But you all don't care.  

 

It's some place between not grasping the topic past talking points and some racist mentality where minority lives don't mean as much to you as when some white victims. 

It’s the Republicans lack of gun reform but keep spreading your bull####

 

Meanwhile, your dog lapping opinion hosts, keep spreading hate, and people keep acting on it

Edited October 28, 2023 by John from Riverside

[Tommy Callahan]

It's lying you all just skip by bail reform, prison reform, da not charging for things like gun possession,defund police ,  the war zones that are Dem strongholds.  

 

All of you only ever talk about guns is if it fits a very specific narrative and involves non minority victims. 

 

That's telling 

 

 

[BillStime]

4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

It's your policies/masters that creat it.  But you all don't care.  

 

It's some place between not grasping the topic past talking points and some racist mentality where minority lives don't mean as much to you as when some white victims. 

Hoax - more fn bs.

 

Who let the assault weapon ban expire?

 

 

[B-Man]

 

Mental illness was the cause.

 

 

 

Card, who hails from Bowdoin, has been charged with eight counts of murder by the Lewiston Police Department, who described him as “armed and dangerous” on Facebook.

 

Authorities had found a note at Card’s home indicating that he planned to take his own life before police found him, CNN reported.

 

Card spent two weeks in a mental health facility over the summer after which he was discharged, according to law enforcement sources.

 

He was an Army Reservist stationed out of Saco, Maine, sources told The Post.

 

The University of Maine confirmed that he was an engineering student there from 2001 until 2004.

 

His motive is unclear, but Card suffered from mental health issues, including recently reporting “hearing voices” and threatened to shoot up the military training base in Saco, sources said.

 

Card had recently started wearing a hearing aid, which he blamed for disturbing voices in his head — including ones he heard at the bar that was shot up during a weekly event for other members of the local deaf community, Card’s sister told The Daily Beast.

 

 https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/news/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-robert-card-found-dead-after-two-day-manhunt/

 

 

[JDHillFan]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Mental illness was the cause.

 

Caused by republicans and Tucker. Sad!

[Warcodered]

7 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

It's lying you all just skip by bail reform, prison reform

You want to do those too that's a great idea why not.

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Mental illness was the cause.

 

 

 

Card, who hails from Bowdoin, has been charged with eight counts of murder by the Lewiston Police Department, who described him as “armed and dangerous” on Facebook.

 

Authorities had found a note at Card’s home indicating that he planned to take his own life before police found him, CNN reported.

 

Card spent two weeks in a mental health facility over the summer after which he was discharged, according to law enforcement sources.

 

He was an Army Reservist stationed out of Saco, Maine, sources told The Post.

 

The University of Maine confirmed that he was an engineering student there from 2001 until 2004.

 

His motive is unclear, but Card suffered from mental health issues, including recently reporting “hearing voices” and threatened to shoot up the military training base in Saco, sources said.

 

Card had recently started wearing a hearing aid, which he blamed for disturbing voices in his head — including ones he heard at the bar that was shot up during a weekly event for other members of the local deaf community, Card’s sister told The Daily Beast.

 

 https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/news/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-robert-card-found-dead-after-two-day-manhunt/

 

 

Perchance mentally ill man shouldn't own a gun?

[B-Man]

 

Call your representative and tell them you don’t want to ban guns but you want to take the $60 billion for Ukraine and build a massive system of mental institutions that we can put the people who hear Shadow People into.

 

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1717898501407793486

 

[aristocrat]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

Hoax - more fn bs.

 

Who let the assault weapon ban expire?

 

 

Handguns are used most often in mass shootings. 

[B-Man]

29 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Perchance mentally ill man shouldn't own a gun?

No.

 

No one thinks that they should. 
 

From the NRA to the ACLU

 

But you knew that. 

[TSOL]

8 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Yup, just flood the country with guns then blame others when massacres take place. 

 

 

Like Ukraine? 

[Warcodered]

23 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Call your representative and tell them you don’t want to ban guns but you want to take the $60 billion for Ukraine and build a massive system of mental institutions that we can put the people who hear Shadow People into.

 

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1717898501407793486

 

 

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

No.

 

No one thinks that they should. 
 

From the NRA to the ACLU

 

But you knew that. 

And I would agree we should absolutely fund better mental healthcare no problem with that at all. But you absolutely know the NRA doesn't support any regulation that keeps guns out the hands of the mentally ill because they refuse to entertain the possibility of regulations at all. They would rather regulate people than guns.

[Tommy Callahan]

Uvalde: Democrat
Buffalo: Democrat
Boulder: Democrat
Orlando: Democrat
Parkland: Democrat
Nashville: Democrat
Las Vegas: Democrat
Sandy Hook: Democrat
San Bernardino:Democrat
Midland/Odessa: Democrat
Colorado Springs: Democrat
Powys Synagogue: Democrat
Tree of Life Synagogue: Democratic

Lewiston: Democrat

 

Dem strongholds are war zones 

Ban Democrats, not guns

 

 

[BillStime]

Hoax 

[T master]

On 10/25/2023 at 10:11 PM, T&C said:

David Begnaud
@DavidBegnaud
BREAKING from CBS News: MAINE LAW ENFOCEMENT BULLETIN: Maine State Police is attempting to locate Robert Card as a person of interest regarding a mass shooting incident at Schemeagees Bar and Grille Restaurant and the Sparetime Recreation in Lewiston.

 

Card is a trained firearms instructor believed to be in the Army reserve stationed out of Saco, ME

 

According to law enforcement, Card recently reported mental health issues including hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard base in Saco.  He was also reported to have been comitted to a mental health facility for 2 weeks in the summer of 2023.

Last known to be operating a White Subaru Outback with a black bumper with ME plates.
Last edited
10:47 PM · Oct 25, 2023
 

 

CAN YOU SAY RED FLAG !!!!!! What the H do these people need to shut down some of these people before they go do some of this stuff for christ sake someone like this you need to keep a close eye on i would say !! 

 

But it's easier to blame the guns ...

Edited October 30, 2023 by T master

[T&C]

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

CAN YOU SAY RED FLAG !!!!!! What the H do these people need to shut down some of these people down before they go do some of this stuff for christ sake someone like this you need to keep a close eye on i would say !! 

 

But it's easier to blame the guns ...

Nobody blames the cars, bombs, poisons, knives, etc. though. Wonder why?

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

Nobody blames the cars, bombs, poisons, knives, etc. though. Wonder why?

Do you own a car?

[T master]

21 hours ago, T&C said:

Nobody blames the cars, bombs, poisons, knives, etc. though. Wonder why?

 

Well if they could figure out a way to fit it into their agenda you can be they would be on the list .

[Tommy Callahan]

Reporting that the friends that turned him into police months ago point to what would trigger him.  Being called a pedophile.

 

Even the voices in his head were calling him a pedo

 

Then he attacked a kids party and a bar.

 

And from the FBI to the local and state police. they had multiple warnings.

 

and that state is a yellow flag state.  

 

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/29/maine-shooting-robert-card-investigation/index.html

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

The 10 Mass Shootings Since Lewiston You Didn't Hear About

KEVIN DOWNEY JR

 

Most news articles about the animal in Lewiston, Maine, who shot 31 people, killing 18, focus specifically on the shooter’s skin color and “AR-15 style” rifle. The media seem to have missed the ten mass shootings that have taken place in the three and a half days since the Maine massacre.

 

Lewiston stands out because of the unusually high body count. Also, the shooter escaped and was at large for a while before police found his body. Every news source from Maine to New York kept readers glued to their sites with stories of “the shooter MAY come here next” fear porn.

 

Left-leaning, gun-grabbing racists cheered when the Lewiston shooter was identified as a white male . The Lewiston victims were still cooling in the local morgue as commie pundits dutifully went to work decrying the two things they hate the most: peckerwoods and AR-15s. It was a convenient distraction from the weekend “festival of lead” we. saw in all the familiar places.

 

• The ten shootings left 14 dead and 65 wounded. Two took place in Chicago and left 19 people ventilated — 15 in just one shooting involving a handgun. Astonishingly, no one gave up the ghost.
• Indianapolis was home to a shooting that left one dead and eight injured at a Halloween bash in a building the police somehow can’t identify — which to me sounds like a “pop-up party.” The victims’ ages ranged from 16-22.
• The bloodiest shooting since Lewiston erupted when two “groups” of maniacs decided to shoot it out during Halloween festivities outdoors in a Tampa-area bar district. Videos show two men with handguns. No AR-15s or MAGA hats were found at the scene
• Five people were shot to death — including a 73-year-old male — in Clinton, North Carolina, at a residence known for selling the dopes.
• Six people were shot at a party in the back of a business in Texarkana, Texas, when, according to police, “a fist fight broke out between two men at the party. At some point during this fight, at least two men there pulled out rifles and started shooting.”

• Four were injured at a shoot’em up party in Chicago

• Six teens were shot at a house party in Mansfield, Ohio. Two died.
• Six teens were injured at a party in Lake Charles, Louisiana.
• Ricardo Johary Cadena-Garcia, 36, using a handgun — not one of those big, scary “assault weapons” — perforated four men in a Dodge City, Kansas, bar, two of whom are never going home.
• Seven people were injured in a shooting Saturday at a party in Las Cruces, New Mexico. No deaths were reported.

 

 

What Have We Learned?

We have learned the press is picky about the mass shootings they report, but you likely knew that

 

https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2023/10/29/the-10-mass-shootings-since-lewiston-you-didnt-hear-about-n1738971

 

 

Edited October 30, 2023 by B-Man

[Tommy Callahan]

13 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The 10 Mass Shootings Since Lewiston You Didn't Hear About

KEVIN DOWNEY JR

 

Most news articles about the animal in Lewiston, Maine, who shot 31 people, killing 18, focus specifically on the shooter’s skin color and “AR-15 style” rifle. The media seem to have missed the ten mass shootings that have taken place in the three and a half days since the Maine massacre.

 

Lewiston stands out because of the unusually high body count. Also, the shooter escaped and was at large for a while before police found his body. Every news source from Maine to New York kept readers glued to their sites with stories of “the shooter MAY come here next” fear porn.

 

Left-leaning, gun-grabbing racists cheered when the Lewiston shooter was identified as a white male . The Lewiston victims were still cooling in the local morgue as commie pundits dutifully went to work decrying the two things they hate the most: peckerwoods and AR-15s. It was a convenient distraction from the weekend “festival of lead” we. saw in all the familiar places.

 

• The ten shootings left 14 dead and 65 wounded. Two took place in Chicago and left 19 people ventilated — 15 in just one shooting involving a handgun. Astonishingly, no one gave up the ghost.
• Indianapolis was home to a shooting that left one dead and eight injured at a Halloween bash in a building the police somehow can’t identify — which to me sounds like a “pop-up party.” The victims’ ages ranged from 16-22.
• The bloodiest shooting since Lewiston erupted when two “groups” of maniacs decided to shoot it out during Halloween festivities outdoors in a Tampa-area bar district. Videos show two men with handguns. No AR-15s or MAGA hats were found at the scene
• Five people were shot to death — including a 73-year-old male — in Clinton, North Carolina, at a residence known for selling the dopes.
• Six people were shot at a party in the back of a business in Texarkana, Texas, when, according to police, “a fist fight broke out between two men at the party. At some point during this fight, at least two men there pulled out rifles and started shooting.”

• Four were injured at a shoot’em up party in Chicago

• Six teens were shot at a house party in Mansfield, Ohio. Two died.
• Six teens were injured at a party in Lake Charles, Louisiana.
• Ricardo Johary Cadena-Garcia, 36, using a handgun — not one of those big, scary “assault weapons” — perforated four men in a Dodge City, Kansas, bar, two of whom are never going home.
• Seven people were injured in a shooting Saturday at a party in Las Cruces, New Mexico. No deaths were reported.

 

 

What Have We Learned?

We have learned the press is picky about the mass shootings they report, but you likely knew that

 

https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2023/10/29/the-10-mass-shootings-since-lewiston-you-didnt-hear-about-n1738971

 

 

CNN front page has started to do stories on the victims of these daily shootings in dem strongholds.  

 

Its telling how many follows exactly the same formula. Kid goes to the store, gets caught between bangers and then the narrative somehow goes to the NRA and guns.

 

when the main factors seem to be the GANGS and illegal handguns.  

 

 

 

America’s youngest victims | CNN

[Wacka]

Missed on the same day as Maine-3 Buffalo   sewer dept. workers shot on the 190near the Niagara St. exit. One dead and two still in hospital.  No leads announced yet.  I mentioned it above.

[Warcodered]

23 hours ago, T&C said:

Nobody blames the cars, bombs, poisons, knives, etc. though. Wonder why?

As we all know there are very little regulations for the purchase and ownership of cars, bombs, and poison. 🙄

[Tommy Callahan]

27 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

As we all know there are very little regulations for the purchase and ownership of cars, bombs, and poison. 🙄

The regulation on cars is to register them for public roads.

 

got cleaning supplies at home?  if so you have the other two covered.

 

 

I dont know of any of them involving an FBI background/NICKS check.

 

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

The regulation on cars is to register them for public roads.

 

got cleaning supplies at home?  if so you have the other two covered.

 

 

I dont know of any of them involving an FBI background/NICKS check.

 

 

 

 

You also have to pass a minimum competency test to drive one, and there's an entire subsection of policing that monitors to make sure people use them in a safe manner.

 

Go ahead buy enough of them to do much of anything or look up how to actually do that and we'll see if anything interesting happens.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Warcodered

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, Warcodered said:

You also have to pass a minimum competency test to drive one, and there's an entire subsection of policing that monitors to make sure people use them in a safe manner.

 

Go ahead buy enough of them to do much of anything and we'll see if anything interesting happens.

Yes.  To drive one.

Entire departments, like the ATF?  

 

 

 

On that We totally agree then I 100% support permitting for CC outside of the house that requires both legal and range aspects. to go along with the background part.

And like licenses, to be good in any state.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Yes.  To drive one.

Entire departments, like the ATF?  

 

 

 

On that We totally agree then I 100% support permitting for CC outside of the house that requires both legal and range aspects. to go along with the background part.

And like licenses, to be good in any state.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was more meaning like there's patrol cops in cities monitoring traffic and highway patrol, essentially at times their main job is enforcing traffic laws.

 

We definitely agree on at least that much, and that much is already step up.

[Tommy Callahan]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I was more meaning like there's patrol cops in cities monitoring traffic and highway patrol, essentially at times their main job is enforcing traffic laws.

 

We definitely agree on at least that much, and that much is already step up.

I wonder if the Defund the police BS cut gang taskforce funding or something.

 

between that and Gun possession not being charged, (because no one got hurt, its considered victimless), doesn't fit the bail reform narrative.  Cities are the wild west every damn weekend.

 

When "We" took care of the violent Italian gangs back in the day, we didn't ban guns to do it. we found ways to take down the gangs.  

 

Now we coddle the gangs, give excuses for their behaviors, and talk of taking legal citizens guns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/maine-gunmans-family-reached-out-to-sheriff-five-months-before-shootings

 

Again, this isn't a gun issue. This could have been prevented. LEO f'ed up again.

[B-Man]

17 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/maine-gunmans-family-reached-out-to-sheriff-five-months-before-shootings

 

Again, this isn't a gun issue. This could have been prevented. LEO f'ed up again.

 

 

Thats why you no longer see the 'usual suspects' spouting the narrative in this thread any longer.

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

SURE, BUT THEN THERE WOULD BE NO VICTIMS FOR THE LEFT TO DANCE IN THEIR BLOOD WHILE TRYING TO CONVINCE US TO TO GIVE UP OUR GUNS: 

 

 Army Warned That Maine Gunman ‘Should Not Have a Weapon,’ Behaved ‘Erratically’ Months Before Shooting.

 

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/army-warned-that-maine-gunman-should-not-have-a-weapon-behaved-erratically-months-before-shooting/

 

 

 

 

This country doesn’t have a gun problem. It has a mental health problem. Particularly on the left.

 

 

 

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[ChiGoose]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

This country doesn’t have a gun problem. It has a mental health problem. Particularly on the left.

 

 

 

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I do find it interesting that most conservative reactions to gun violence basically boils down to: Americans are inferior people with severe mental issues not seen in peer nations. 

 

Blame America much?

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

I do find it interesting that most conservative reactions to gun violence basically boils down to: Americans are inferior people with severe mental issues not seen in peer nations. 

 

Blame America much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_antidepressant_consumption

 

That was before the plandemic made it even worse.

 

that link shows our peer nations are on par with us.

 

 

 

 

[Wacka]

The Buffalo shooting- they found the stolen vehicle used, Police are looking over every square inch for prints, DNA, etc.

[ChiGoose]

6 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_antidepressant_consumption

 

That was before the plandemic made it even worse.

 

that link shows our peer nations are on par with us.

 

 

 

 

So if they have the same rates of mental illness but not the same rates of gun violence, then we can all agree that mental illness isn’t the cause of our gun violence epidemic. 
 

Glad that we agree that it’s not a mental illness issue.

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

So if they have the same rates of mental illness but not the same rates of gun violence, then we can all agree that mental illness isn’t the cause of our gun violence epidemic. 
 

Glad that we agree that it’s not a mental illness issue.

Since you don't understand cause and effect I will simplify the numbers for you. 99.9% of guns are not used improperly each year, which means guns are not a problem. Most other civilized countries do jail people who are violent, which keeps violent people off the streets, so therefore they can't commit their violence repeatedly. My question though is why are you only comparing us to countries that are 80%+ White or Asian, how racist are you?

[ChiGoose]

5 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Since you don't understand cause and effect I will simplify the numbers for you. 99.9% of guns are not used improperly each year, which means guns are not a problem. Most other civilized countries do jail people who are violent, which keeps violent people off the streets, so therefore they can't commit their violence repeatedly. My question though is why are you only comparing us to countries that are 80%+ White or Asian, how racist are you?

It’s pretty incredible to start with demeaning me for not understanding cause and effect, only to follow with  completely misunderstanding cause and effect, and then claiming that I’m racist because I didn’t claim that gun violence was a racial thing.

 

Just an all around fantastic job at completely missing the point in favor of baseless opinions devoid of any facts. 
 

If you really wanted to do a root cause analysis, you start with eliminating variables. It seems we can all agree at this point to eliminate mental illness since it’s equally common in the US as our peer nations while the US has a disproportionate rate of gun violence.
 

Now while you did mention that most civilized nations jail dangerous people, no nation jails a larger portion of its population than the US. Not even Communist China. So I have to take it that the *lack* of jailing people isn’t the issue here. If jailing people corresponded to reducing gun violence, we would have the least gun violence of any country on the planet. We don’t, so that clearly not the issue. 
 

You then raised racial issues but failed to provide any evidence or support for your claim, so it’s impossible to evaluate. I guess you wanted to find a way to blame some racial group without actually spelling it out and instead projected your shame on me by calling me racist. Might be a good idea to work through that one on your own or with a professional. 
 

My question is: if the prevalence of firearms are not the issue, then what does it look like when you compare per capita gun ownership against per capita gun violence?

[ExiledInIllinois]

[Tommy Callahan]

5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Right from everytown to your post.  

[B-Man]

21 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

 

I do find it interesting that most conservative reactions to gun violence basically boils down to: Americans are inferior people with severe mental issues not seen in peer nations. 

 

Blame America much?

 

 

I find it interesting that you are silly enough to post that laughable misinterpretation of "conservative thought"

 

Interesting, but certainly not surprising. . . . . . . . . . it's what you do.

 

 

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[ChiGoose]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I find it interesting that you are silly enough to post that laughable misinterpretation of "conservative thought"

 

Interesting, but certainly not surprising. . . . . . . . . . it's what you do.

 

 

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Conservatives routinely blame gun violence on mental illness. 
 

Other countries don’t have the gun violence problem that we do. 
 

Therefore, it’s logical to conclude that conservatives believe that Americans are uniquely mentally unwell. 
 

I’m not sure what other conclusion you could actually draw given the facts.